Date   

Installation issues

Jim L
 

Hiya folks,

 

Have had an afternoon I’d rather forget trying to update NVDA to its latest version 2020.2

 

I tried updating within the program and also download the full installation file and both fail each time it tries to go to installing it.

 

I’ve also uninstalled it and tried it that way still no luck then I could not install an earlier version to I got hold of version 2016.3 then it installed and I could only go up to 2019 and then same issues happened again.

 

Is anyone else having this issue? Am running a windows 7, 64bit PC.

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

 

 


Re: Backup files with NVDA

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,

 

Try this link.

 

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5052

 

Tony

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: soloman s
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 9:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Backup files with NVDA

 

Sir,
This is a great share indeed.
Could you please share the direct link to the utility for I have
trouble selecting the one suitable for the Windows version that I am
using. Sorry for the inconvenience.


On 10/6/20, Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> wrote:
> Hot stuff!!!
>
> Thanks for the heads up.
>
> Andrea from Australia
>
> On 6/10/2020 12:22 am, Tony Ballou wrote:
>>
>> howdy folks,
>>
>> Sorry about the length of this post, but I think the information will
>> be helpful to most of you out here.
>>
>> Most times using copying and pasting files through either this PC or
>> file explorer is the easiest way to backup files and for the most part
>> it works without a hitch.
>>
>> However, There are those situations where sometimes files won’t copy
>> because for a reason totally unbeknownst to me you will get a
>> destination path too long message and you’ll have to reduce the file
>> name, even though windows allows you to copy files well beyond the old
>> 8.3 format and extension conventions. There’s  also the cannot read
>> from source disc error and the cannot write to disc error. Those
>> errors can mean that your hard drive may be in some trouble.
>>
>> To avoid problems like these, you can download a free file copying
>> utility called unstoppable copier. It’s up to version 5.2, works on
>> all windows systems, and is totally accessible with NVDA. The copying
>> process is slower than using the  basic copying and pasting methods
>> through this PC and file explorer, however, the advantage of using
>> this utility is that it not only copies the file, it also scans and
>> removes anything that would cause the file to become truncated or
>> corrupt. It also can Recover files from disks with physical damage.
>> Allows you to copy files from disks with problems such as bad sectors,
>> scratches or that just give errors when reading data. The program will
>> attempt to recover every readable piece of a file and put the pieces
>> together. Using this method most types of files can be made usable
>> even if some parts were not recoverable in the end. To get this
>> utility go to
>>
>> http://www.roadkil.net/
>>
>> I was able to completely repair and successfully reformat 2 external
>> hard drives using this program. Hope this helps some of you folks out
>> there and sorry about the length.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> *From: *Marco Oros <mailto:marco.oros93@...>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:19 AM
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *[nvda] Backup files with NVDA
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> I have question dear NVDA users.
>>
>> How do You backup files? Have You backup files manually, or do You use
>> some software?
>>
>> And also, which software is accessible with NVDA?
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Marco Oros
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Backup files with NVDA

soloman s
 

Sir,
This is a great share indeed.
Could you please share the direct link to the utility for I have
trouble selecting the one suitable for the Windows version that I am
using. Sorry for the inconvenience.

On 10/6/20, Andrea Sherry <sherryan@wideband.net.au> wrote:
Hot stuff!!!

Thanks for the heads up.

Andrea from Australia

On 6/10/2020 12:22 am, Tony Ballou wrote:

howdy folks,

Sorry about the length of this post, but I think the information will
be helpful to most of you out here.

Most times using copying and pasting files through either this PC or
file explorer is the easiest way to backup files and for the most part
it works without a hitch.

However, There are those situations where sometimes files won’t copy
because for a reason totally unbeknownst to me you will get a
destination path too long message and you’ll have to reduce the file
name, even though windows allows you to copy files well beyond the old
8.3 format and extension conventions. There’s also the cannot read
from source disc error and the cannot write to disc error. Those
errors can mean that your hard drive may be in some trouble.

To avoid problems like these, you can download a free file copying
utility called unstoppable copier. It’s up to version 5.2, works on
all windows systems, and is totally accessible with NVDA. The copying
process is slower than using the basic copying and pasting methods
through this PC and file explorer, however, the advantage of using
this utility is that it not only copies the file, it also scans and
removes anything that would cause the file to become truncated or
corrupt. It also can Recover files from disks with physical damage.
Allows you to copy files from disks with problems such as bad sectors,
scratches or that just give errors when reading data. The program will
attempt to recover every readable piece of a file and put the pieces
together. Using this method most types of files can be made usable
even if some parts were not recoverable in the end. To get this
utility go to

http://www.roadkil.net/

I was able to completely repair and successfully reformat 2 external
hard drives using this program. Hope this helps some of you folks out
there and sorry about the length.

Tony

*From: *Marco Oros <mailto:marco.oros93@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:19 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Backup files with NVDA

Hello.

I have question dear NVDA users.

How do You backup files? Have You backup files manually, or do You use
some software?

And also, which software is accessible with NVDA?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros









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Re: NVDA volume louder on lock screen/secure screens

Tyler Spivey
 

Go into the Windows volume control. Make sure that the system volume and NVDA are at the same level.

On 10/5/2020 4:40 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi,
The volume of NVDA speech is louder on the lock screen and other secure screens than when I’m in the normal desktop. To make sure the NVDA settings for the secure screens are the same as the normal settings, I’ve selected the option to use these settings on secure screens from the General settings section of NVDA, but the problem remains. I’ve also tried adjusting the Windows volume separately when in a secure screen but the issue just comes right back next time I’m in a secure screen. I only always use the same eSpeak synth and the synth volume is always set to 100%.  Has anyone experienced this and can anyone think of troubleshooting steps I haven’t yet tried? Thanks.


NVDA volume louder on lock screen/secure screens

Luke Robinett
 

Hi,

The volume of NVDA speech is louder on the lock screen and other secure screens than when I’m in the normal desktop. To make sure the NVDA settings for the secure screens are the same as the normal settings, I’ve selected the option to use these settings on secure screens from the General settings section of NVDA, but the problem remains. I’ve also tried adjusting the Windows volume separately when in a secure screen but the issue just comes right back next time I’m in a secure screen. I only always use the same eSpeak synth and the synth volume is always set to 100%.  Has anyone experienced this and can anyone think of troubleshooting steps I haven’t yet tried? Thanks.


Re: Backup files with NVDA

 

It is critically important that people understand that user data file backup (which is what has mostly been what has been mentioned on this topic) and full system image backups (which include the operating system and the user data for all users on that machine) are two completely different things.

It's actually a good idea to take both, but if you have to choose one it's the full system image backup, as it will snag everything you need to get yourself back up and running should you have something like a main drive failure, while a user data only backup will not.
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Re: Backup files with NVDA

Andrea Sherry
 

Hot stuff!!!

Thanks for the heads up.

Andrea from Australia

On 6/10/2020 12:22 am, Tony Ballou wrote:

howdy folks,

 

Sorry about the length of this post, but I think the information will be helpful to most of you out here. 

 

Most times using copying and pasting files through either this PC or file explorer is the easiest way to backup files and for the most part it works without a hitch. 

 

However, There are those situations where sometimes files won’t copy because for a reason totally unbeknownst to me you will get a destination path too long message and you’ll have to reduce the file name, even though windows allows you to copy files well beyond the old 8.3 format and extension conventions. There’s  also the cannot read from source disc error and the cannot write to disc error. Those errors can mean that your hard drive may be in some trouble.     

 

To avoid problems like these, you can download a free file copying utility called unstoppable copier. It’s up to version 5.2, works on all windows systems, and is totally accessible with NVDA. The copying process is slower than using the  basic copying and pasting methods through this PC and file explorer, however, the advantage of using this utility is that it not only copies the file, it also scans and removes anything that would cause the file to become truncated or corrupt. It also can Recover files from disks with physical damage. Allows you to copy files from disks with problems such as bad sectors, scratches or that just give errors when reading data. The program will attempt to recover every readable piece of a file and put the pieces together. Using this method most types of files can be made usable even if some parts were not recoverable in the end. To get this utility go to  

http://www.roadkil.net/

    

I was able to completely repair and successfully reformat 2 external hard drives using this program. Hope this helps some of you folks out there and sorry about the length. 

 

 

Tony

From: Marco Oros
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Backup files with NVDA

 

Hello.

I have question dear NVDA users.

How do You backup files? Have You backup files manually, or do You use
some software?

And also, which software is accessible with NVDA?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros





 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 Beta 4 now available

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I should have specified that I'm using Microsoft Edge as my browser.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: Using NVDA with Virtual Desktop Environments

Danielle Ledet <singingmywayin@...>
 

Thanks guys!

On 10/4/20, Eilana Benish <benish.ilana@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I think they should consider installing NVDA on the main folder that all of
the remote desktop computer uses .





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נכתב על ידי Danielle Ledet, ב־05/10/2020 בשעה 04:05:

Hello All,

I have just been hired by TTec as a customer service rep at home and
they are using a virtual desktop. Can I use NVDA in this environment?
Anything special that I need to do to gain access to NVDA. It works
well for me in the Windows environment but when I logon to my work
environment I am signed out of NVDA. Thanks for any help.
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compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and
tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will
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Re: Acer laptop has not HOME and END keys for NVDA

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

It does indeed work, but it requires that you are running the beta for now. It will be part of the next stable version of NVDA. I just used it to set NVDA+J as my mute key.


Re: QWS problem with NVDA

Marco Oros
 

Thank You so much, maybe It helps.


Re: Edge and/or NVDA crashes

Denis Sariyannis
 

What I find is that:
It doesn't happen when I use JAWS and Edge.
It seems not to be Chromium related. In Chrome I don't have these issues.
Before it crashes input fields often behave strange. I'm not able to set the focus to a certain letter etc. At least, NVDA doesn't give responsive information anymore.


Am Mi., 30. Sept. 2020 um 05:37 Uhr schrieb Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>:

I wander if this thing has to do with waterfox and its crashes, the
brouser does actually hang on a lot of pages.

Could this behaviour seen on edge happen because of nvda, so far the
main dev is not sure what has changed in the latest version between 08
and 09 because all the updates were simple updates and without addons
like my script blocker things crash but faster.

Either the program hangs or it hangs and nvda hangs to till waterfox is
closed with narator.

I thought it was my cpu type or firmware but now I am not sure.



On 30/09/2020 3:27 pm, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:
> Hello!
> It happens to me too sometimes when I load pages. I press enter on
> some link, it loads and immediately hangs, having to restart NVDA. It
> always happens to me in the moodle of my university, and I found as a
> strategy to press f6 while loading, and once it finishes loading,
> press shift f6. Otherwise I have to restart NVDA all the time
>
> 2020-09-22 6:12 GMT-03:00, Denis Sariyannis <denis.sariyannis@...>:
>> I don't know if that helps. But with JAWS these very frequent issues seem
>> not to happen.
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>>> Am 19.09.2020 um 14:19 schrieb Denis Sariyannis via groups.io
>>> <denis.sariyannis=gmail.com@groups.io>:
>>>
>>> 
>>> In Chrome I can see that the browser window freezes. NVDA keeps running.
>>> But I think that it must have something to do with the combination of NVDA
>>> and Chromium or something like that. The normal view of Gmail is something
>>> that probably many people use with Chrome. ;)
>>>
>>>> Am Sa., 19. Sept. 2020 um 12:30 Uhr schrieb Denis Sariyannis via
>>>> groups.io <denis.sariyannis=gmail.com@groups.io>:
>>>> It does not happen with Firefox. I'm going to test it with Chrome.
>>>>
>>>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.09.2020 um 12:24 schrieb Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>:
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this happen with other browsers, say Chrome?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Denis
>>>>> Sariyannis
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 3:09 AM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: [nvda] Edge and/or NVDA crashes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> when I work with edit fields or combo boxes in Edge NVDA or Edge often
>>>>> crashes. I'm not sure which of the programs causes the issue. NVDA is
>>>>> just silent when it happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes I can restart NVDA by pressing a shortcut I set up and then it
>>>>> works again. But it also can happen that NVDA does not restart. Then it
>>>>> usually helps to start and close Narrator (CTRL+WINDOWS+ENTER) and that
>>>>> seems to help NVDA to speak again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mostly I'm experiencing these crashes when I'm writing a mail on
>>>>> gmail.com or when I'm uploading tracks on Soundcloud.
>>>>>
>>>>> While writing this message, I had to restart NVDA six times cause it
>>>>> stopped working.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Windows 10, latest stable version of Edge and NVDA 2020.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know what the reason could be? It is not nice! :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Denis Sariyannis
>>>>> Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
>>>>> Phone: +49 6227 6982766
>>>>> Mobile: +49 176 66830900
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Denis Sariyannis
>>> Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
>>> Phone: +49 6227 6982766
>>> Mobile: +49 176 66830900
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>







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Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Re: Backup files with NVDA

Tony Ballou
 

howdy folks,

 

Sorry about the length of this post, but I think the information will be helpful to most of you out here. 

 

Most times using copying and pasting files through either this PC or file explorer is the easiest way to backup files and for the most part it works without a hitch. 

 

However, There are those situations where sometimes files won’t copy because for a reason totally unbeknownst to me you will get a destination path too long message and you’ll have to reduce the file name, even though windows allows you to copy files well beyond the old 8.3 format and extension conventions. There’s  also the cannot read from source disc error and the cannot write to disc error. Those errors can mean that your hard drive may be in some trouble.     

 

To avoid problems like these, you can download a free file copying utility called unstoppable copier. It’s up to version 5.2, works on all windows systems, and is totally accessible with NVDA. The copying process is slower than using the  basic copying and pasting methods through this PC and file explorer, however, the advantage of using this utility is that it not only copies the file, it also scans and removes anything that would cause the file to become truncated or corrupt. It also can Recover files from disks with physical damage. Allows you to copy files from disks with problems such as bad sectors, scratches or that just give errors when reading data. The program will attempt to recover every readable piece of a file and put the pieces together. Using this method most types of files can be made usable even if some parts were not recoverable in the end. To get this utility go to  

http://www.roadkil.net/

    

I was able to completely repair and successfully reformat 2 external hard drives using this program. Hope this helps some of you folks out there and sorry about the length. 

 

 

Tony

From: Marco Oros
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 3:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Backup files with NVDA

 

Hello.

I have question dear NVDA users.

How do You backup files? Have You backup files manually, or do You use
some software?

And also, which software is accessible with NVDA?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros





 


Re: QWS problem with NVDA

Richard Wells
 

There is a registry hack that fixes this. Gavin sent it around. Here it
is from my Dropbox. It works perfectly.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4m1dilj75a71ezu/QWS%20Fix.reg?dl=1

On 10/5/2020 6:58 AM, Marco Oros wrote:
Hello.

I have problem with QWS using NVDA.

When I am at list view of open, or save dialogue, It just don't read
anything. Have You same problem in Win 10 with this software and how
to fix It?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco





Re: QWS problem with NVDA

Damien Garwood <damien@...>
 

Hi Marco,
I had the same problem.
I wrote to both this list and the QWS list regarding it, and also corresponded privately with James and NVAccess.
There is a workaround that you can use until a definitive fix is released. It involves changing something in the registry, so if you're comfortable with that, let me know off list and I'll send you the reg file.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 05/10/2020 12:58 pm, Marco Oros wrote:
Hello.
I have problem with QWS using NVDA.
When I am at list view of open, or save dialogue, It just don't read anything. Have You same problem in Win 10 with this software and how to fix It?
Thank You.
best regards
Marco


QWS problem with NVDA

Marco Oros
 

Hello.

I have problem with QWS using NVDA.

When I am at list view of open, or save dialogue, It just don't read anything. Have You same problem in Win 10 with this software and how to fix It?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco


Re: access

Quentin Christensen
 

I know there are gaps in the accessibility of Access itself, and probably in NVDA's support for it as well since not many people use it now.  In any case, here is Microsoft's page of keystrokes for Access: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/keyboard-shortcuts-for-access-70a673e4-4f7b-4300-b8e5-3320fa6606e2

Quentin.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 1:11 PM lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...> wrote:
Does someone use access with office? With NVDA? If you do what are some
commands? I have a friend who needs them .asap please thanks.








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Re: Different profiles for different instances of the same program?

Quentin Christensen
 

Also just to pick up one point Pranav made - profiles triggered by an application automatically get activated when that program has focus and deactivated when the program no longer has focus (when you alt+tab to another program for instance).  If you manually trigger a profile, even if it is one which is otherwise triggered by an app, it will be active until you manually deactivate it.  

So as others have noted, you can have different profiles you use for different instances of the one program, but you will need to manually activate them.  There is a longstanding issue open for having configuration profiles for different websites (the main use which springs to my mind for multiple configurations for one app) https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4442 however it is a lot more complex than it at first seems.  I'd encourage you to subscribe to that issue (and comment on it if you can add something) if you are interested in that specifically.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 12:29 AM john doe <johndoe65534@...> wrote:
Actually, as long as you don't use trigger, you can have as many profile
as you want.
Eatch profile will need to have a unique name though.

On 10/3/2020 12:06 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think you can have multiple profiles for a particular program but you will have  to activate them manually. Profiles are restricted to the program for which they have been created. They are not system wide.
>
> Pranav
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2020.3 Beta 4 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Louise,

Replying in the groups.io web editor to test your issues.  Firstly, if you installed the beta and didn't intend to, you can either leave it, and it will update to the release candidate(s) as available.  Or you can download NVDA 2020.2 again from https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ and install it.  The installer will advise that you are installing an older version and warn you against that.  I don't think there should be any problem doing that.

To your questions:

1) I'm guessing you can't press escape to go to Browse mode when you are in the editor to write your message?  I found in the subject title I could press escape to go to browse mode and enter to go back to focus mode.  In the editor, you'll notice NVDA reports "Application".  The editor is marked up as an ARIA application - basically it wants to be treated more like a desktop app, so some keys get treated differently.  You can still change from browse to focus mode and back using NVDA+SPACEBAR.

2) Reading words twice when they have punctuation at the end.  Is that using Chrome?  I found in Firefox moving by word skips over punctuation (ie it always jumps to the start of the next word) but in Chrome and other places, the focus moves from the start of the word to in between the word and the punctuation.  In Chrome it then reads the word again.  I couldn't find an issue for this so I've created one: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11727

3) I couldn't replicate this, but it might be something with groups.io maybe?

Kind regards

Quentin.


Re: Using NVDA with Virtual Desktop Environments

Eilana Benish
 

Hello

I think they should consider installing NVDA on the main folder that all of the remote desktop computer uses .

 

 

ובכבוד רב | Sincerely,

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נכתב על ידי Danielle Ledet, ב־05/10/2020 בשעה 04:05:

Hello All,

I have just been hired by TTec as a customer service rep at home and
they are using a virtual desktop. Can I use NVDA in this environment?
Anything special that I need to do to gain access to NVDA. It works
well for me in the Windows environment but when I logon to my work
environment I am signed out of NVDA. Thanks for any help.

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