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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

molly the blind tech lover
 

The RC is working great here on my pc.

Thank you for all that you do.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Hi all,

NVDA 2020.3rc1 has been released. This is a release candidate, and unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the 2020.3 release.  I would encourage everyone to test this release please.

 

There are improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Office.  eSpeak-NG has been updated, and there are new touchscreen options.  We've also added new emulated system keys in the input gestures dialog.

More highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3rc1/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Great to hear it, thanks Joshua!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 11:56 AM Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:
Hi to all.  The subject line says it all.  When I now use bard express
after updating NVDA I can now hear the entire annotation when going
through a list of books like the recently added books list.  This is
so cool.  I don't have to use the tab key and tab to the annotation
field any more.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Joshua Hendrickson
 

Hi to all. The subject line says it all. When I now use bard express
after updating NVDA I can now hear the entire annotation when going
through a list of books like the recently added books list. This is
so cool. I don't have to use the tab key and tab to the annotation
field any more.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson


NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi all,

NVDA 2020.3rc1 has been released. This is a release candidate, and unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the 2020.3 release.  I would encourage everyone to test this release please.

There are improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Office.  eSpeak-NG has been updated, and there are new touchscreen options.  We've also added new emulated system keys in the input gestures dialog.

More highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3rc1/

Kind regards

Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Installation issues

Quentin Christensen
 

Indeed, as Gene said, all versions of NVDA, including the latest NVDA 2020.3 RC1 should work fine on Windows 7.  The only caveat, is that since NVDA 2017.4, you need to have Windows 7 Service Pack 1.  There is no reason not to use SP1, however if installing Windows 7 from scratch using old installation media, it may not come with SP1 out of the box.

Meanwhile, Jim, did you manage to get NVDA installed?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:12 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It will work.  If it wouldn't, there would have been an announcement on the
list that Windows 7 is no longer supported and that it wouldn't work or
might not work.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 12:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installation issues



Hi, I’m not sure if the latest version of NVDA will work on windows seven.
I don’t see why it wouldn’t.  It probably will if you have the proper
updates that windows seven has.  The last time I used it. I was using NVDA
version 19 01  but my 7 box bit the dust and I had to upgrade to win ten.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Socheat Muth
Sent: October 5, 2020 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installation issues





Hi,

Make sure you have Windows 7 service pack 1 installed on your system. I'm
not sure how NVDA works on Windows 7 now, as I'm using Windows 10 myself.



On 10/6/2020 9:26 AM, Jim L wrote:



Hiya folks,



Have had an afternoon I’d rather forget trying to update NVDA to its latest
version 2020.2



I tried updating within the program and also download the full installation
file and both fail each time it tries to go to installing it.



I’ve also uninstalled it and tried it that way still no luck then I could
not install an earlier version to I got hold of version 2016.3 then it
installed and I could only go up to 2019 and then same issues happened
again.



Is anyone else having this issue? Am running a windows 7, 64bit PC.



Regards,



Jim






















--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

There is no dedicated add-on for Windows 10 Mail app, but support for it is included as part of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

David Moore
 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

David Moore
 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David


On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I just installed the add-on and that did the trick.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

I didn’t think of that. Thanks for the tip.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

I know I am pushing for it, but do you have latest Windows 10 App Essentials add-on installed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Sorry but that didn’t work. Automatic say-all is chedcked but it’s still not working.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Rosemarie,

When in the mail app press control-nvda-b and check Automatic Say All on page load check box

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I didn’t think of that. Thanks for the tip.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

I know I am pushing for it, but do you have latest Windows 10 App Essentials add-on installed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Sorry but that didn’t work. Automatic say-all is chedcked but it’s still not working.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Rosemarie,

When in the mail app press control-nvda-b and check Automatic Say All on page load check box

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

I know I am pushing for it, but do you have latest Windows 10 App Essentials add-on installed?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Sorry but that didn’t work. Automatic say-all is chedcked but it’s still not working.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Rosemarie,

When in the mail app press control-nvda-b and check Automatic Say All on page load check box

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Sorry but that didn’t work. Automatic say-all is chedcked but it’s still not working.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Rosemarie,

When in the mail app press control-nvda-b and check Automatic Say All on page load check box

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Rosemarie,

When in the mail app press control-nvda-b and check Automatic Say All on page load check box

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Version 20.10/localization updates: Control Usage Assistant, GoldWave, Resource Monitor #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

The following add-ons were updated to version 20.10 with localization updates:

  • Control Usage Assistant: NVDA will once again announce control help messages in languages other than English.
  • GoldWave
  • Resource Monitor: recent changes to system uptime message can now be heard in languages other than English.

 

As always, these updates can be found via Add-on Updater and on community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Seeking explanation of unusual pronunciation on a webpage

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

You can remove those soft hyphens with an entry in your  speech dictionary. Patern (without quotes): “­” and replacement empty.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Oktober 2020 17:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seeking explanation of unusual pronunciation on a webpage

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 09:51 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:

Is it because of the soft hyphens?

-
If by "soft hyphens" you mean splitting words across line ends with hyphens, I'd say yes.  I have no idea why someone would not use the far more typical flowing of whole words across lines.  Having the word "future" broken up as "fu" hyphen line break "ture" is but one example where I would expect problems.  And there are a lot of examples of this sort of hyphenation, and I've not seen it used since the age of the word processor began.  It was at least somewhat common when typewriters were the primary writing method, but not since.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Seeking explanation of unusual pronunciation on a webpage

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 09:51 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Is it because of the soft hyphens?
-
If by "soft hyphens" you mean splitting words across line ends with hyphens, I'd say yes.  I have no idea why someone would not use the far more typical flowing of whole words across lines.  Having the word "future" broken up as "fu" hyphen line break "ture" is but one example where I would expect problems.  And there are a lot of examples of this sort of hyphenation, and I've not seen it used since the age of the word processor began.  It was at least somewhat common when typewriters were the primary writing method, but not since.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Seeking explanation of unusual pronunciation on a webpage

 

Pranav,

        Thanks very much for including the URL of the page where you're experiencing the issue.  For some reason it split across two lines so I'm sending it out again so that anyone who wants to check it out can just click through:

https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2020/10/millimetre-precision-drug-delivery-to-the-brain.html  

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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