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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry Brian - I didn't write my post clearly - I was trying to ask Don whether he had noticed the change in behaviour in between the last beta and the RC, or whether he had been using NVDA 2020.2 up until he tried the RC.

But yes, your description of the cycle is quite accurate :)  And in answer to what I seemed to ask :)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:49 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Excuse me, I fat fingered:  Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final release candidate (which is sometimes, but not always exactly the same as the final beta).  There can be issues (typically minor) discovered in release candidates that are post-beta, and those often get patched, hence the reason there can be rc1, rc2, rc3, etc.

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     ~ Kelley Boorn

 



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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Excuse me, I fat fingered:  Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final release candidate (which is sometimes, but not always exactly the same as the final beta).  There can be issues (typically minor) discovered in release candidates that are post-beta, and those often get patched, hence the reason there can be rc1, rc2, rc3, etc.

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 07:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Is this a change in the RC from Beta 4
-
Yes, as is standard progression:

1. Alpha/nightly builds.

2. Beta build(s)

3. Release candidate(s)

4. Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final beta after it has passed beta testing without any need for change.
 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

Is this a change in the RC from Beta 4, or from NVDA 2020.2?  If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled, does it make a difference?  If not, it might be worth having a look at your log to see what it's up to.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:22 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
This seems to be a change since installing NVDA 2020-3 rc1 on my win 10
system with latestest version of TB.  Normally when I open a Email in TB
I can use the up and down arrow keys to read a message.  Now it is very
incosistent with the arrow keys seemingly to do nothing.  A restart of
NVDA solves the problem but keeps coming back to the problem on a random
basis.









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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Silent Installation

Quentin Christensen
 

And just for completeness, here is the link to that section 16.1 of the User Guide with --install-silent, and all the other command line switches: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#CommandLineOptions

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 6:44 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Do you mean the one listed in section 16.1 of the user guide? It's
--install-silent


On Wed, 7 Oct 2020, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

> Does anyone know the command for a silent installation of NVDA please?







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Re: NVDA volume louder on lock screen/secure screens

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you definitely used the "Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens" option in NVDA"s general settings since you last saved your settings?

Have you got any other software running which might affect audio?  EG NVDA has an "Audio ducking" feature which (when enabled) lowers the sound of all other programs - could it be you have another program running which has a similar feature and is lowering the sound of NVDA normally (but that other program is not running on the lock screen)?

Otherwise, what sound card / driver do you have?  Maybe it is something to do with the model or software version?  If all those experiencing this could please post that information, we can try to see if there is any pattern there.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Sascha Cowley via groups.io <sascha.camille=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Likewise here. NVDA's volume in the system sound mixer is at 100%, as is NVDA's speech volume on the desktop and secure screens.



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Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

That’s a completely different issue to what was discussed. The workaround is manually activating say all.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teddy Bear Cute
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

But, in microsoft outlook, NVDA couldn’t read automaticaly the mail message when you press enter.

 

Daripada: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Bagi Pihak Brian Vogel
Hantar: Friday, 9 October, 2020 1:30 AM
Kepada: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subjek: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Teddy Bear Cute
 

But, in microsoft outlook, NVDA couldn’t read automaticaly the mail message when you press enter.

 

Daripada: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Bagi Pihak Brian Vogel
Hantar: Friday, 9 October, 2020 1:30 AM
Kepada: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subjek: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.


NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Don H
 

This seems to be a change since installing NVDA 2020-3 rc1 on my win 10 system with latestest version of TB.  Normally when I open a Email in TB I can use the up and down arrow keys to read a message.  Now it is very incosistent with the arrow keys seemingly to do nothing.  A restart of NVDA solves the problem but keeps coming back to the problem on a random basis.


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

Provided that users are using supported Windows 10 releases, as Windows 10 App Essentials require recent Windows 10 releases (current release supports Version 1909/November 2019 Update).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, you go to the manage add-ons in the tools menu of NVDA. Then you tab to where it says “get add-ons”. Then go down by headings until you get to the windows 10 app essentials. You’ll be asked if you want to update to the latest version of that add-on. Tab to the yes button and either hit space bar or enter.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Yes, you go to the manage add-ons in the tools menu of NVDA. Then you tab to where it says “get add-ons”. Then go down by headings until you get to the windows 10 app essentials. You’ll be asked if you want to update to the latest version of that add-on. Tab to the yes button and either hit space bar or enter.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

Yes, you can get it from community add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org).

As for what Windows 10 App Essentials can do (speaking as the author of this add-on): too many to list. But just to give you a highlight of its power:

  • Early access to upcoming Windows 10 features through accessibility enhancements.
  • Early access to solutions to Windows 10 issues noted by NVDA users while it is being developed.
  • Detecting more Windows 10 controls.
  • Announcing search suggestion count in Settings, Microsoft Store, and other search fields where NVDA does not announce first search result automatically.
  • Announcing product download status in Microsoft Store.
  • Browse mode while reading emails with Windows 10 Mail.
  • Support for modern search field in File Explorer.
  • Support for emoji panel and other modern input features on top of what NVDA already provides.
  • Improved support for Settings app on top of what NVDA provides.
  • Assisting in debugging events coming from Windows 10 apps and controls.

 

In the past, the add-on used to provide the following which are now part of NVDA or became unnecessary in recent releases:

  • Initial and more complete support for emoji panel and other modern input features, now part of NVDA.
  • Initial support for Chromium Edge (early 2020), now part of NVDA.
  • Fixing bugs which are now part of NVDA such as reducing verbosity when performing certain commands in recent Microsoft 365 releases.
  • Playing search suggestion sounds, now part of NVDA.
  • Detecting dialog boxes scattered around Windows 10, now part of NVDA.
  • One of the first add-ons to adopt add-on update feature, now part of Add-on Updater add-on.

 

The add-on isn’t as powerful as say, StationPlaylist or NVDA Remote, but it is considered influential.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Leslie
 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Gene,

            In addition to what you've observed, which is the normal behavior, those settings, dictionaries, etc., are also retained if you uninstall one version of NVDA and then reinstall another.

            It is most common these days, under Windows, for most programs to store user-selectable settings, add-ons, etc., under the user's AppData folder, not in the program's install folder, so that a "nuke and pave" for the program is not a "nuke and pave" of everything the user has spent a lot of time and effort setting up.  This is particularly handy when the beta versions come out and you may choose to get rid of one and go back to the current released version.  It can be done in minutes and with ease.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It’s working great on my computer too.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

The RC is working great here on my pc.

Thank you for all that you do.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Hi all,

NVDA 2020.3rc1 has been released. This is a release candidate, and unless any critical issues are found, this will be identical to the 2020.3 release.  I would encourage everyone to test this release please.

 

There are improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Office.  eSpeak-NG has been updated, and there are new touchscreen options.  We've also added new emulated system keys in the input gestures dialog.

More highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-3rc1/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

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From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

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From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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Re: Thunderbird Quick key folder navigation addon

Annette Moore
 

It doesn't work for me until I open a message, but once I open at least one message, it works just fine, until I close Thunderbird. Upon reopening it, I just repeat the process, open a message and quick key folder navigation works as it should. A bit quirky, but I can live with it. If it starts not working at all, then I'll have to uninstall and reinstall the add-on. for now, though, it works fine like this.

Annette

On 10/7/2020 4:52 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Then I'd uninstall and reinstall Thunderbird itself.  I believe you are asked whether you wish to retain your account information when you do this, but it's been ages since I have.

The latest versions of Tbird and the add-on have worked as per usual on my machines where I have both.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Announcement Only: Thunderbird and other Application Software #adminnotice

 

Topics about all application software, where the issue is with that software and/or its add-ons/extensions, and/or asking about how to use same, etc., that is not directly NVDA related really belong in the Chat Subgroup.

I've been getting a bit too lax lately, and intend to go back to being more strict about making the distinction between NVDA itself and its own add-ons and closely allied bits like getting a braille display working with NVDA and questions about things really not NVDA-related at all.

The fact that anyone uses NVDA to access a given piece of software does not make a question about using that software fall into "being about NVDA."  And I expect members to think before they post about whether what they're about to ask is actually about NVDA or not.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Thunderbird Quick key folder navigation addon

 

Then I'd uninstall and reinstall Thunderbird itself.  I believe you are asked whether you wish to retain your account information when you do this, but it's been ages since I have.

The latest versions of Tbird and the add-on have worked as per usual on my machines where I have both.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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