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Re: Admin's Note, Please Read #adminnotice

 

The group Welcome and Monthly Reminder messages have been update to include the following very near to the beginning of each:

In addition to the NVDA Group Specific rules which follow, all members are expected to adhere to the NVAccess Citizen and Contributor Code of Conduct.  This is for the main NVDA Group and all subgroups.  If you have a grievance against an individual whom you believe to have violated the code of conduct during any interaction on this group, please e-mail us at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and the issue will be investigated and addressed promptly and confidentially. 

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Not that I think we're going to have any issues related to this, but I will re-emphasize the "during any interaction on this group" aspect.  If it's in public, or even in private but directly linked to a private response to a message on the group, that's within group administration's purview to handle.  If it's got its origin outside that scope, it's not.

And the kinds of disagreements that are characteristic of adults in general, and that could occasionally occur in "polite company" in real life, do not fall under the Code of Conduct.  It needs to be serious before administrative intervention is called for.
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NVDA and Ivona from nextup.com

Chris Shook
 

Hi,
Has anyone purchased the ivona voices from nextup.com on the extra voices page?
How many times can you download those voices? The reason I ask is because they give you the option to purchase a backup CD.


Admin's Note, Please Read #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello everyone,

In the last in-process blog post by NVAccess, they linked to the NVAccess Code of Conduct. For reference, that link is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.MD

Moving forward, in addition to the existing list policy, this code of conduct will also apply to anyone wishing to participate in this community.

I will be asking Brian to update the list rules with content from the NVAccess Code of Conduct. If you have a grievance against an individual whom you believe to have violated the code of conduct as a result of an interaction resulting from membership on this list, please email us at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and we will investigate, and address it promptly and confidentially. Please note that the code of conduct will apply to this list and all subgroups as well.

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The latest In-Process blog post

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

The latest NV Access blog post on "In-Process" is now out!  This week we feature the NVDA 2020.3 Release Candidate, an updated job advertisement & our new Code of Conduct. There's NVDACon's call for topics, tips on reading languages & a new game: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-9th-october-2020/

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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

No problem Brian - I guessed you'd missed that - and it's useful to put the information about the cycle out there now and then anyway.


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:23 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Quentin,

           I have no idea how I missed that you were the questioner!  If there's anyone who doesn't need any description of the stages of software from start to finish it's you!
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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Quentin,

           I have no idea how I missed that you were the questioner!  If there's anyone who doesn't need any description of the stages of software from start to finish it's you!
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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry Brian - I didn't write my post clearly - I was trying to ask Don whether he had noticed the change in behaviour in between the last beta and the RC, or whether he had been using NVDA 2020.2 up until he tried the RC.

But yes, your description of the cycle is quite accurate :)  And in answer to what I seemed to ask :)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:49 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Excuse me, I fat fingered:  Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final release candidate (which is sometimes, but not always exactly the same as the final beta).  There can be issues (typically minor) discovered in release candidates that are post-beta, and those often get patched, hence the reason there can be rc1, rc2, rc3, etc.

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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

Excuse me, I fat fingered:  Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final release candidate (which is sometimes, but not always exactly the same as the final beta).  There can be issues (typically minor) discovered in release candidates that are post-beta, and those often get patched, hence the reason there can be rc1, rc2, rc3, etc.

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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

 

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 07:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Is this a change in the RC from Beta 4
-
Yes, as is standard progression:

1. Alpha/nightly builds.

2. Beta build(s)

3. Release candidate(s)

4. Released/Production version, typically exactly the same as the final beta after it has passed beta testing without any need for change.
 
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Re: NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

Is this a change in the RC from Beta 4, or from NVDA 2020.2?  If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled, does it make a difference?  If not, it might be worth having a look at your log to see what it's up to.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:22 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
This seems to be a change since installing NVDA 2020-3 rc1 on my win 10
system with latestest version of TB.  Normally when I open a Email in TB
I can use the up and down arrow keys to read a message.  Now it is very
incosistent with the arrow keys seemingly to do nothing.  A restart of
NVDA solves the problem but keeps coming back to the problem on a random
basis.









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Re: NVDA Silent Installation

Quentin Christensen
 

And just for completeness, here is the link to that section 16.1 of the User Guide with --install-silent, and all the other command line switches: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#CommandLineOptions

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 6:44 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Do you mean the one listed in section 16.1 of the user guide? It's
--install-silent


On Wed, 7 Oct 2020, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

> Does anyone know the command for a silent installation of NVDA please?







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Re: NVDA volume louder on lock screen/secure screens

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you definitely used the "Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens" option in NVDA"s general settings since you last saved your settings?

Have you got any other software running which might affect audio?  EG NVDA has an "Audio ducking" feature which (when enabled) lowers the sound of all other programs - could it be you have another program running which has a similar feature and is lowering the sound of NVDA normally (but that other program is not running on the lock screen)?

Otherwise, what sound card / driver do you have?  Maybe it is something to do with the model or software version?  If all those experiencing this could please post that information, we can try to see if there is any pattern there.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Sascha Cowley via groups.io <sascha.camille=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Likewise here. NVDA's volume in the system sound mixer is at 100%, as is NVDA's speech volume on the desktop and secure screens.



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Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

That’s a completely different issue to what was discussed. The workaround is manually activating say all.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teddy Bear Cute
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 1:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

But, in microsoft outlook, NVDA couldn’t read automaticaly the mail message when you press enter.

 

Daripada: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Bagi Pihak Brian Vogel
Hantar: Friday, 9 October, 2020 1:30 AM
Kepada: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subjek: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Teddy Bear Cute
 

But, in microsoft outlook, NVDA couldn’t read automaticaly the mail message when you press enter.

 

Daripada: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Bagi Pihak Brian Vogel
Hantar: Friday, 9 October, 2020 1:30 AM
Kepada: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subjek: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.


NVDA 2020.3 RC1 released

Don H
 

This seems to be a change since installing NVDA 2020-3 rc1 on my win 10 system with latestest version of TB.  Normally when I open a Email in TB I can use the up and down arrow keys to read a message.  Now it is very incosistent with the arrow keys seemingly to do nothing.  A restart of NVDA solves the problem but keeps coming back to the problem on a random basis.


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

Provided that users are using supported Windows 10 releases, as Windows 10 App Essentials require recent Windows 10 releases (current release supports Version 1909/November 2019 Update).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, you go to the manage add-ons in the tools menu of NVDA. Then you tab to where it says “get add-ons”. Then go down by headings until you get to the windows 10 app essentials. You’ll be asked if you want to update to the latest version of that add-on. Tab to the yes button and either hit space bar or enter.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

NVDA Official Add-Ons Repository Page

You can activate the link for any one of the add-ons you might like and download it from its page.  If NVDA is running, all you need to do is to select the add-on file and activate it and the NVDA Add-Ons Manager will take care of the rest.  You can also handle things directly through the Add-Ons manager, NVDA+N,T,A,Enter will bring it up.  Activate the Get Add-Ons button and you'll end up on the repository page I referenced at the start of this message.
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Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Yes, you go to the manage add-ons in the tools menu of NVDA. Then you tab to where it says “get add-ons”. Then go down by headings until you get to the windows 10 app essentials. You’ll be asked if you want to update to the latest version of that add-on. Tab to the yes button and either hit space bar or enter.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi,

Yes, you can get it from community add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org).

As for what Windows 10 App Essentials can do (speaking as the author of this add-on): too many to list. But just to give you a highlight of its power:

  • Early access to upcoming Windows 10 features through accessibility enhancements.
  • Early access to solutions to Windows 10 issues noted by NVDA users while it is being developed.
  • Detecting more Windows 10 controls.
  • Announcing search suggestion count in Settings, Microsoft Store, and other search fields where NVDA does not announce first search result automatically.
  • Announcing product download status in Microsoft Store.
  • Browse mode while reading emails with Windows 10 Mail.
  • Support for modern search field in File Explorer.
  • Support for emoji panel and other modern input features on top of what NVDA already provides.
  • Improved support for Settings app on top of what NVDA provides.
  • Assisting in debugging events coming from Windows 10 apps and controls.

 

In the past, the add-on used to provide the following which are now part of NVDA or became unnecessary in recent releases:

  • Initial and more complete support for emoji panel and other modern input features, now part of NVDA.
  • Initial support for Chromium Edge (early 2020), now part of NVDA.
  • Fixing bugs which are now part of NVDA such as reducing verbosity when performing certain commands in recent Microsoft 365 releases.
  • Playing search suggestion sounds, now part of NVDA.
  • Detecting dialog boxes scattered around Windows 10, now part of NVDA.
  • One of the first add-ons to adopt add-on update feature, now part of Add-on Updater add-on.

 

The add-on isn’t as powerful as say, StationPlaylist or NVDA Remote, but it is considered influential.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 9:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

Leslie <soundsofmusic@...>
 

Do you go to add ons to get to it?  I’d love to do that again.  This way has always been clumbsy, but I got used to it because I had to.  What other things can you do with this add on?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2020 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi, Leslie,

 

There’s an add-on called windows 10 app essentials. That makes windows 10 work better and that includes the mail app. I installed it and now I can hit enter on a message and it’s read out automatically.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

 

Try whatever key you use as your NVDA. Key plus A.  I couldn’t think of the name of that key when I was talking with you this morning.  Do you use the insert key?  I think the shift key is easier.  I know you don’t have a lap top.  I do.  Let me know if this works.

 

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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Yes, there is an add-on for the mail app. It’s called windows 10 app essentials or something like that. It’s in the tools section of the NVDA menu.

 

 

 

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From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! Are you saying that there is an nvda add-on for the mail app. I had no idea that add on for nvda was here to make the Windows 10 mail app work better! Wow! Let me know if that is the case, and I will install the add-on immediately! David Moore

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 4:00 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, David,

 

I just installed the new add-on for the mail app and that did the trick. Narrator does work well with the mail app but I’d prefer to use NVDA.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] messages aren't read out automatically in the mail app

 

Hi rosemarie! I cannot hear the email read out when I press enter either. I have to arrow down through the email, and read it line by line or word by word, just like you read an article. Nvda works best with the Windows 10 mail app. Only nvda works consistently. Jaws keeps reading the title of a message that I have already deleted. Narrator isn't too bad, but nvda works much better in the Windows 10 mail app as your screen reader. That is why I use all three screen readers, nvda, jaws, and narrator. Take care guys sitting on our balcony 65°, a little chilly. David

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying the mail app. I was using thunderbird but it became sluggish so I decided to try the mail app again. I used to be able to hit enter on a message and it would be read out automatically. Has something changed? Now I have to go to the top of the message, hit insert down-arrow and I can read the message. How can I get messages to read out automatically in the mail app?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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