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Re: Portable Virtual Box

 

Hi carlos.

Well I know qt5 has more accessability in it.

I am willing to try more things though since with what the vmware interface has shown me while settings are accessible there are somethings not and its not progressed from 15-16 version, as well as that the install of 16 basically bricked windows.

And while I finally was able to guess and get into my vmware account you have to pay for support and there is no way to report my issues which means in short I will never in a thousand reformats will reinstall or recommend vmware anything at all.

I have used their converter and its a nogo and well, to be honest I am over paying for my virtual machine software especially since I only have room for 1 vm at once anyway.

On 12/10/2020 3:39 pm, Carlos Medrano wrote:
Shaun,
Virtual Box is mostly accessible. There are a couple of places that NVDA won't read, such as the vm menu that appears when you do the host command to pull it up. Something else to note is that the UI is coded in QT, meaning that any quirks that QT-based programs have will also be present. A few areas in the settings dialog also are not properly read. For instance, the drop down that has the various categories sometimes reads the wrong item, instead of the one selected. It can also be painful to add things like new disk controllers as well for example. The good news is that anything doable with the UI should be doable with the command line.
Keep in mind that I haven't used Virtual Box in a couple of years, so many of these points may not be relevant with the latest version. I also have never used any portable version of Virtual Box, so I cannot speak to how well it performs.
Hope this helps.
-Carlos

On 10/11/2020 9:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

How accessible is virtualbox compaired to vmware workstation or its player.



Background:

In 2015 or there abouts after getting a new computer with the abilities to run hardware virtualisation, I got and downloaded what was supposed to be a reasonable accessible software package called vmware player and decided to buy vmware workstation pro 15.

Almost immediately I found a few issues.

Namely the non reading of edit fields in the program and the fact that there were some slowdowns.

Things were all right for what I was needing the software for but in 2020, I upgraded to the latest vmware 16.

Not only were my accessibility issues not fixed, but on reboot the windows keyboard refused to work till I ran a restore of windows.

I had previously installed enhanced keyboard and forgot to check it, which may have caused the issue but by then I wasn't that happy with the software interface.

Pluss on removing vmware software performance on my system went up.

As well as this I had forgotten my vmware account password and needed a captcha to get it and then I just couldn't be bothered anymore.

What is virtualbox like.

I am actually interested in portable virtual box because I can run it, its drivers and services when I want will run and it will go away when I am done, yet I can use it and it may just be the ticket to my fiddling.

Then again after the almost near fatal experience with the latest vmware on windows I am loathed to bother trying at all.

I don't have room for a dedicated system to run virtual anything and since I almost had to reformat due to no keyboard working in windows, and with my tinkering with virtual machines really just that, I seriously don't want to go through that again.

If its possible I therefore want something that will run from anywhere, and then when I don't need it go away leaving windows in tact.

Is it worth to try again, it looks like I may get a better ride with keyboard shortcuts and can customise them which will be really cool.

But is it worth it and will it be better than vmware or should I simply get out of virtual machines alltogether.

On that note, is the hypervisor hyper v system in windows worth my time.

It comes with the os so I hope it will not destroy windows if I make a mistake.











Re: NVDA Silent Installation

Quentin Christensen
 

No spaces in "--install-silent", just hyphens.


On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 3:06 AM Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

nvda_2020.2.exe --install-silent

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: 10 October 2020 15:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

Thanks so much, no spaces?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: 07 October 2020 20:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

--install-silent

 

 

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: 07 October 2020 20:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Silent Installation

 

Does anyone know the command for a silent installation of NVDA please?

 



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Re: NVDA and Ivona from nextup.com

Quentin Christensen
 

Ivona voices do work with NVDA.  I haven't used them myself, but I know we have users who do, and we had an issue with our beta for 2020.3 where we attempted to fix an issue with Ivona voices, which inadvertently broke other voices.  (I believe the issue is with say all not working correctly in some cases - https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10901)

Regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 12:54 AM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
if you bought them, you should be able to download them as many times as you need. Also, I don't think those voices are SAPI5. I think they only work in the text aloud program. I don't think they work with NVDA.



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locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Topic Locked.

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locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Carlos Medrano
 

Imo, it's probably easier to learn Linux from a command line perspective over a remote protocol like SSH through Windows, instead of installing Gnome and Orca. Linux is usable for blind people, but you have to get used to doing things like ctrl+alt+f3, blindly typing root and the password, and executing a command to force kill Xorg when Orca breaks the shell. It's also possible to have the best of both worlds with Windows as a VM, similar to my setup.

On 10/11/2020 9:29 PM, tim wrote:
Hmm, Sounds like college days to me. Learning the op, screen reader, and the software for 5 classes a week. Just think the fun hasn't stopped yet. you never stop learning with computers.

On 10/11/2020 8:36 PM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hi Linux can be used by totally blind people using Orca screen reader under gnome desktop. I have not been able to work out Linux though because there are no effective audio tutorials for Linux gnome desktop like ones for say JAWS for windows or ?NVDA training modules. The problem is the cognitive load for someone who has to work out how to use the operating system at the same time as learning how to use the screen reader. It is a bit of a chicken and egg thing. You can’t learn how to use the operating system without some basic knowledge of the screen reader.

A person needs step by step ways to manage files and look on the internet so they can read the help documents or play the podcasts they want to listen to in order to get more than the basics out of the computer. I did teach myself Mac OSX and although not an expert can use the Mac for various tasks.

Regards
Ian

On 12/10/2020 8:06 am, mk360 wrote:

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it? I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *Wolf Berg via groups.io <mailto:ddf051.wolf=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

Hello All,
I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the
wrong place.
I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the
latest

stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),
which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.
When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web
content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar
issue and

been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser
developers to look into it.
Many thanks,
Carlos







Re: Portable Virtual Box

Carlos Medrano
 

Shaun,
Virtual Box is mostly accessible. There are a couple of places that NVDA won't read, such as the vm menu that appears when you do the host command to pull it up. Something else to note is that the UI is coded in QT, meaning that any quirks that QT-based programs have will also be present. A few areas in the settings dialog also are not properly read. For instance, the drop down that has the various categories sometimes reads the wrong item, instead of the one selected. It can also be painful to add things like new disk controllers as well for example. The good news is that anything doable with the UI should be doable with the command line.
Keep in mind that I haven't used Virtual Box in a couple of years, so many of these points may not be relevant with the latest version. I also have never used any portable version of Virtual Box, so I cannot speak to how well it performs.
Hope this helps.
-Carlos

On 10/11/2020 9:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

How accessible is virtualbox compaired to vmware workstation or its player.



Background:

In 2015 or there abouts after getting a new computer with the abilities to run hardware virtualisation, I got and downloaded what was supposed to be a reasonable accessible software package called vmware player and decided to buy vmware workstation pro 15.

Almost immediately I found a few issues.

Namely the non reading of edit fields in the program and the fact that there were some slowdowns.

Things were all right for what I was needing the software for but in 2020, I upgraded to the latest vmware 16.

Not only were my accessibility issues not fixed, but on reboot the windows keyboard refused to work till I ran a restore of windows.

I had previously installed enhanced keyboard and forgot to check it, which may have caused the issue but by then I wasn't that happy with the software interface.

Pluss on removing vmware software performance on my system went up.

As well as this I had forgotten my vmware account password and needed a captcha to get it and then I just couldn't be bothered anymore.

What is virtualbox like.

I am actually interested in portable virtual box because I can run it, its drivers and services when I want will run and it will go away when I am done, yet I can use it and it may just be the ticket to my fiddling.

Then again after the almost near fatal experience with the latest vmware on windows I am loathed to bother trying at all.

I don't have room for a dedicated system to run virtual anything and since I almost had to reformat due to no keyboard working in windows, and with my tinkering with virtual machines really just that, I seriously don't want to go through that again.

If its possible I therefore want something that will run from anywhere, and then when I don't need it go away leaving windows in tact.

Is it worth to try again, it looks like I may get a better ride with keyboard shortcuts and can customise them which will be really cool.

But is it worth it and will it be better than vmware or should I simply get out of virtual machines alltogether.

On that note, is the hypervisor hyper v system in windows worth my time.

It comes with the os so I hope it will not destroy windows if I make a mistake.







locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

tim
 

Hmm, Sounds like college days to me. Learning the op, screen reader, and the software for 5 classes a week. Just think the fun hasn't stopped yet. you never stop learning with computers.

On 10/11/2020 8:36 PM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Hi Linux can be used by totally blind people using Orca screen reader under gnome desktop. I have not been able to work out Linux though because there are no effective audio tutorials for Linux gnome desktop like ones for say JAWS for windows or ?NVDA training modules. The problem is the cognitive load for someone who has to work out how to use the operating system at the same time as learning how to use the screen reader. It is a bit of a chicken and egg thing. You can’t learn how to use the operating system without some basic knowledge of the screen reader.
A person needs step by step ways to manage files and look on the internet so they can read the help documents or play the podcasts they want to listen to in order to get more than the basics out of the computer. I did teach myself Mac OSX and although not an expert can use the Mac for various tasks.
Regards
Ian
On 12/10/2020 8:06 am, mk360 wrote:

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it? I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *Wolf Berg via groups.io <mailto:ddf051.wolf=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

Hello All,
I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the
wrong place.
I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest
stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),
which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.
When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web
content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and
been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser
developers to look into it.
Many thanks,
Carlos


Portable Virtual Box

 

Hi.

How accessible is virtualbox compaired to vmware workstation or its player.



Background:

In 2015 or there abouts after getting a new computer with the abilities to run hardware virtualisation, I got and downloaded what was supposed to be a reasonable accessible software package called vmware player and decided to buy vmware workstation pro 15.

Almost immediately I found a few issues.

Namely the non reading of edit fields in the program and the fact that there were some slowdowns.

Things were all right for what I was needing the software for but in 2020, I upgraded to the latest vmware 16.

Not only were my accessibility issues not fixed, but on reboot the windows keyboard refused to work till I ran a restore of windows.

I had previously installed enhanced keyboard and forgot to check it, which may have caused the issue but by then I wasn't that happy with the software interface.

Pluss on removing vmware software performance on my system went up.

As well as this I had forgotten my vmware account password and needed a captcha to get it and then I just couldn't be bothered anymore.

What is virtualbox like.

I am actually interested in portable virtual box because I can run it, its drivers and services when I want will run and it will go away when I am done, yet I can use it and it may just be the ticket to my fiddling.

Then again after the almost near fatal experience with the latest vmware on windows I am loathed to bother trying at all.

I don't have room for a dedicated system to run virtual anything and since I almost had to reformat due to no keyboard working in windows, and with my tinkering with virtual machines really just that, I seriously don't want to go through that again.

If its possible I therefore want something that will run from anywhere, and then when I don't need it go away leaving windows in tact.

Is it worth to try again, it looks like I may get a better ride with keyboard shortcuts and can customise them which will be really cool.

But is it worth it and will it be better than vmware or should I simply get out of virtual machines alltogether.

On that note, is the hypervisor hyper v system in windows worth my time.

It comes with the os so I hope it will not destroy windows if I make a mistake.


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Gentlemen,

          Linux has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with NVDA.  NVDA does not exist in a version that runs under that operating system.

          Linux is a major player in data centers, yet, after decades of everyone saying that Linux for home users/small business users is inevitable, it hasn't been.

          So, bring this back in to some relationship with NVDA as the topic originally had, or it will be locked shortly.  If you want to discuss Linux, the Chat Subgroup or elsewhere is the place for that, NOT here.

--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hi ian.

I have twiddled round with linux a little but know little in commands.

Right now, we are limited to a certain amount of desktops.

xfce, lxde and lxqt are usable but I have never got them to work.

I almost got ciniman to work but not properly.

Unity does work as does gnome 2 classic and gnome shell.

The biggest issue right now is that anything above gnome2 is a no go.

Its not helped that some in the community are no goes for support and don't want even suggestions.

There are a lot of devs that don't want help because they know best so it never improves.

For myself, having used vmware machines, while I was able to blunder about, because of what I do generally and because of what I own, I can't see myself ever switching to linux full time, unless I get a bigger desk or bigger room to run a dedicated box with linux.

Now I do have 1 such box that has win7 on it right now and could be used.

Sadly I'd need to either use dvds or cds with it and I can't justify leaving it active all the time and in position.

Since vmware workstation 16 completely stuffed up windows keyboard on install requiring a system restore and almost a complete reformat and since to be honest I only blundered about the last year I have decided not only to not renew my vmware licence but to go back on using vmware at all on my primary system.

To top it all off, with it gone performance has gone up on the system and so I will not put it back on.

Maybe after my next reformat I may reconcidder it but who am I kidding here.

I have blundered about in all there is to see as a demo.

Back in university I doodled with linux but never really got into it as an actual os only as a toy.

I think if I try again, I will be using a real pc or a pi and if I do that I need to pick and stick with 1 distribution.

If I have to choose after a lot of fiddling, mint will probably be it though I like the arch/mandriva concept of roling release.

I technically do have room for a desktop and I guess I could run linux on this but I probably won't.

After vmware doing what it did to my system I have gone off the idea of trying to fiddle with virtual machine software.

I'd like to try virtual box or maybe a portable virtual machine software which does not interact with and potentially mess up windows on my primary system like vmware did.

I may have not installed or updated an enhanced keyboard driver but its a checkbox I didn't click and it made all the difference.

Even though my system supports it the amount of performance I got back from removing it has convinced me otherwise.

At any rate I don't have the room on my data drives to run a virtual so I'd need a dedicated customised system with the right software.

Either that or a way to multiboot a system with multiple drives to handle things.




On 12/10/2020 1:36 pm, Ian Blackburn wrote:

Hi Linux can be used by totally blind people using Orca screen reader under gnome desktop. I have not been able to work out Linux though because there are no effective audio tutorials for Linux gnome desktop like ones for say JAWS for windows or ?NVDA training modules. The problem is the cognitive load for someone who has to work out how to use the operating system at the same time as learning how to use the screen reader. It is a bit of a chicken and egg thing. You can’t learn how to use the operating system without some basic knowledge of the screen reader.

A person needs step by step ways to manage files and look on the internet so they can read the help documents or play the podcasts they want to listen to in order to get more than the basics out of the computer. I did teach myself Mac OSX and although not an expert can use the Mac for various tasks.

Regards
Ian

On 12/10/2020 8:06 am, mk360 wrote:

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it?  I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Wolf Berg via groups.io
Sent: October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

 

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

> Hello All,

> I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the

> wrong place.

> I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest

> stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),

> which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.

> When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web

> content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and

> been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser

> developers to look into it.

> Many thanks,

> Carlos

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Thats actually true.

For a while xbox existed with linux, I am not sure what apple macs are in but macos some of the structures used are linux like.

Now I do wander if microsoft would just drop the windows kernal and just use linux, and then sell out the win9x xp and 7/10 shells that could be a change.

I mean use linux but be able to run windows programs, without wine or anything like that.

Right now there is a not more accessible in windows than linux but who knows.

I do think that a lot of companies including microsoft are waking up to the fact that linux is probably going to take them over at some point.



On 12/10/2020 1:06 pm, mk360 wrote:

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it?  I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Wolf Berg via groups.io
Sent: October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

 

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

> Hello All,

> I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the

> wrong place.

> I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest

> stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),

> which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.

> When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web

> content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and

> been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser

> developers to look into it.

> Many thanks,

> Carlos

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


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locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Ian Blackburn
 

Hi Linux can be used by totally blind people using Orca screen reader under gnome desktop. I have not been able to work out Linux though because there are no effective audio tutorials for Linux gnome desktop like ones for say JAWS for windows or ?NVDA training modules. The problem is the cognitive load for someone who has to work out how to use the operating system at the same time as learning how to use the screen reader. It is a bit of a chicken and egg thing. You can’t learn how to use the operating system without some basic knowledge of the screen reader.

A person needs step by step ways to manage files and look on the internet so they can read the help documents or play the podcasts they want to listen to in order to get more than the basics out of the computer. I did teach myself Mac OSX and although not an expert can use the Mac for various tasks.

Regards
Ian

On 12/10/2020 8:06 am, mk360 wrote:

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it?  I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Wolf Berg via groups.io
Sent: October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

 

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

> Hello All,

> I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the

> wrong place.

> I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest

> stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),

> which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.

> When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web

> content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and

> been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser

> developers to look into it.

> Many thanks,

> Carlos

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


NVDA Reading From Field Twice In Thunderbird While Browsing Messages Within A Folder

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Without opening any messages and while using up/down arrow keys in Thunderbird, the from field is being read twice.  I am not sure if this is actually an NVDA bug or a Thunderbird bug. The reason I say this is because when I use left/right arrow key navigation while highlighting a message, it seems as if the From Field appears twice.  I am using Thunderbird 78 latest update and NVDA 2020.2

Is anyone having this issue and if so, is there a remedy?

Thanks for any help.

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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

mk360
 

What? If Linux exists? Microsoft Azure has many Linux systems, windows 10 has WSL to enshure Linux compatibility, Android is based in Linux, ant these are only a feu examples.

Ok, probably we never have Linux on the desktop, but many, too many systems are based in linux, If you connect to internet probably you are interacting with a Linux system.

Regards,,

mk.

El 11/10/2020 a las 19:16, Arlene escribió:

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it?  I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Wolf Berg via groups.io
Sent: October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

 

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

> Hello All,

> I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the

> wrong place.

> I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest

> stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),

> which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.

> When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web

> content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and

> been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser

> developers to look into it.

> Many thanks,

> Carlos

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Rob Hudson
 

It sure still exists. Been existing since the 90s. Linux, that is. Unix has been around since the 70s.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 15:16:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it? Ive never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hi Wolfwam, Does Linux still exist? I guess very few people use it?  I’ve never heard of it until a friend of a friend tried to install it on her old computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Wolf Berg via groups.io
Sent: October 11, 2020 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,

i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to

use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.

Greetings,

Wolfram

 

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

> Hello All,

> I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the

> wrong place.

> I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest

> stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org),

> which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.

> When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web

> content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and

> been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser

> developers to look into it.

> Many thanks,

> Carlos

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Hello,
i don't use tor browser in Windows, only in Linux. Maybe you can try to use brave browser. It also contains a Tor browser.
Greetings,
Wolfram

Am 11.10.20 um 17:43 schrieb Carlos Medrano:

Hello All,


I am new here, so I apologize in advance if I am sending this to the wrong place.


I am using Windows 10 2004 with NVDA 2020.2 and downloaded the latest stable version of the TOR browser at (https://www.torproject.org), which is based on Mozilla Firefox 78.3.0ESR.


When navigating the part of the browser that normally has the web content, NVDA just says "unknown." Has anybody had a similar issue and been able to solve it? If not I will file a bug with the TOR Browser developers to look into it.


Many thanks,


Carlos





Quick Dictionary with automatic switching of synthesizers for selected languages #addonrelease

Oleksandr Gryshchenko
 

Hi friends,
I added to the add-on the ability to manipulate the profiles of voice synthesizers and associate them with selected languages.
If you enable and configure this function, the received dictionary articles will be sounded by the voice synthesizers of your choice.
An example for the implementation of this possibility was the Switch Synth add-on. Thanks to its author Tyler Spivey for a great idea.

Also added the ability to download current list of available languages from the online dictionary.

Thanks to Cagri Dogan, a translation into Turkish has been added.
At the same time, updated translations and ReadMe documents in English and Ukrainian.

Friends, I'm very grateful to everyone who makes translations and leaves feedback and wishes about this project!

You can download the updated version by following the link below:
https://github.com/grisov/quickDictionary/releases/download/v1.2/quickDictionary-1.2.nvda-addon

p.s. I remember the request to add Arabic and Tamil.
Therefore, in the next version I plan to add the ability to use different online dictionaries and switch between them.

I wish everyone a good week!
Oleksandr


locked Re: TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

Carlos Medrano
 

So I found my problem. I'm putting this here for people to use if they ever encounter a similar situation.
I'm running this instance of Windows 10 in a virtual machine, and I mapped the desktop to a virtual machine  shared folder that goes to the host. In other terms, I was trying to run my browser bundle from a mapped network drive, and it seems like Windows has a few restrictions on that kind of thing.
TL; DR: never run the TOR browser from a network drive. accessibility will break if you do so.
Thanks all of you for your ideas on solving this!
-Carlos


On 10/11/2020 2:42 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Carlos, did a fresh clean install of tor 10 x64 and it is accessible straight out of the box

 

So I dont know what is going on with your install

 

 

 

From: Carlos Medrano
Sent: 11 October 2020 19:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

Chris, thanks. I renamed the old profile directory and let the bundled Firefox make a new one. It still isn't speaking the web content however.

If I may ask, when was the last time you reset your bundle's profile? I wonder if it's a new config setting you access through about:config that isn't being flipped on older installs. Would you be willing to rename your TOR bundle directory and install the latest build on the desktop to see if it behaves normally?

Thanks again for the help.

Carlos

 

On 10/11/2020 1:40 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

You could do it like that  or remove the profile that is being currently used

 

 

From: Carlos Medrano
Sent: 11 October 2020 19:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] TOR Browser Accessibility with NVDA

 

G

 

 

 


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