Date   

Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

amir din
 

Hi,

The tutorials in this website for WordPress for noobies is not working. For example,

https://www.wp4newbs.com/2012/01/wordpress-class-up/

when trying to download the .zip, it said page not found.

 

thanks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: ‏29 ‏صفر,‏ ‏1442 ‏06:36 ‏ص
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

 

Hello, Haroon. While not specifically geared toward NVDA, for
wordpress in general using a screenreader, you might be interested in:
www.wp4newbs.com
& also please reference my signature for a resource that might be of
interest as well.

Please note that all these resources are free, so, although they
belong to me, I don't receive financial gain from them. Hopefully
posting these will not be considered advertising/commercialism, etc.

On 10/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know
> your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.
>
>
> it can be found off the following web page from my website at
> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html
>
> <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>
>
> when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is
> a link coming off it hopefully it helps.
>
>
>
> I do not use the program.
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
>> Dear all.
>> I have a question,
>> is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
>> wordpress with nvda?
>>
>> I searched regarding this in internet.
>> But no positive result!
>>   If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding
>> this.
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Spellchecking with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Also re spell check and reading the word in context - it depends on the version of Word.  In Office 2016 from memory, the easiest way to read the current word in context was to press escape - which, since F7 took you to the next spelling error, and escape then closed it taking you back to the document at that point, it would take you to the spelling error.  In Office 365, it does not read the misspelt word in context when you open spell check (actually now spell check opens a summary with the number of errors - I'm not sure if there is a setting to toggle that?  I can't see one).

Another option for spell check in Word is you can press alt+f7 which doesn't use a spelling pane, but instead jumps to the next error and opens the context menu to the first suggestion.  It only reads the misspelt word, not the context, and if you want to read the context, you'll need to press alt to close the menu and read it.  It's the same as moving to the misspelt word in the text, pressing the applications key to open the context menu which automatically goes to spelling.

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 6:40 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks. I'll try that.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: October 15, 2020 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA

Hi,
The answer Janet is looking for is "W" command in browse mode inside Word.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA

It appears to me that Window-eyes had a feature that moved you, while in a document, from one word flagged as misspelled and another.  F7 will, do mostly the same thing in the spell check dialog.  As far as I know, and I would like to be wrong about this, in the spell check dialog, NVDA doesn't have a read word in Context feature.  JAWS will read the word in the sentence where it appears if you issue the command to do so.  It would be valuable if NVDA added this ability.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA


If I get you correct then Alt will only toggle you between the document and the ribbon in MS Word. Try using F7 for a quick spell check.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 23:33, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:


Hello all,



First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.



Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck
documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between
mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with
Word documents?



Thanks,



Janet




























--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

Jackie
 

Hello, Haroon. While not specifically geared toward NVDA, for
wordpress in general using a screenreader, you might be interested in:
www.wp4newbs.com
& also please reference my signature for a resource that might be of
interest as well.

Please note that all these resources are free, so, although they
belong to me, I don't receive financial gain from them. Hopefully
posting these will not be considered advertising/commercialism, etc.

On 10/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi


Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know
your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.


it can be found off the following web page from my website at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>

when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is
a link coming off it hopefully it helps.



I do not use the program.


Gene nz


On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding
this.
Thank you.





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Re: Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Do not know if this will help but there is a tutorial on get to know your wordpress dash board using a screen reader.


it can be found off the following web page from my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>

when you get to that page jump down by heading to that tutorial there is a link coming off it hopefully it helps.



I do not use the program.


Gene nz

On 16/10/2020 8:44 am, accessible tech malayalam wrote:
Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding this.
Thank you.


Accessible and interactive tutorials about word press web creation

accessible tech malayalam
 

Dear all.
I have a question,
is there is any tutorials available about website creation in
wordpress with nvda?

I searched regarding this in internet.
But no positive result!
If you have anything to help, please share or give some info regarding this.
Thank you.


--
with best regards, Haroon kareem T.K


Re: Spellchecking with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hi,

Thanks. I'll try that.

Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: October 15, 2020 12:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA

Hi,
The answer Janet is looking for is "W" command in browse mode inside Word.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA

It appears to me that Window-eyes had a feature that moved you, while in a document, from one word flagged as misspelled and another. F7 will, do mostly the same thing in the spell check dialog. As far as I know, and I would like to be wrong about this, in the spell check dialog, NVDA doesn't have a read word in Context feature. JAWS will read the word in the sentence where it appears if you issue the command to do so. It would be valuable if NVDA added this ability.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA


If I get you correct then Alt will only toggle you between the document and the ribbon in MS Word. Try using F7 for a quick spell check.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 23:33, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:


Hello all,



First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.



Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck
documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between
mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with
Word documents?



Thanks,



Janet


Re: Spellchecking with NVDA

 

Hi,
The answer Janet is looking for is "W" command in browse mode inside Word.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA

It appears to me that Window-eyes had a feature that moved you, while in a document, from one word flagged as misspelled and another. F7 will, do mostly the same thing in the spell check dialog. As far as I know, and I would like to be wrong about this, in the spell check dialog, NVDA doesn't have a read word in Context feature. JAWS will read the word in the sentence where it appears if you issue the command to do so. It would be valuable if NVDA added this ability.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA


If I get you correct then Alt will only toggle you between the document and
the ribbon in MS Word. Try using F7 for a quick spell check.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 23:33, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:


Hello all,



First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have
improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.



Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck
documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between
mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with
Word documents?



Thanks,



Janet


Re: Spellchecking with NVDA

Gene
 

It appears to me that Window-eyes had a feature that moved you, while in a document, from one word flagged as misspelled and another. F7 will, do mostly the same thing in the spell check dialog. As far as I know, and I would like to be wrong about this, in the spell check dialog, NVDA doesn't have a read word in Context feature. JAWS will read the word in the sentence where it appears if you issue the command to do so. It would be valuable if NVDA added this ability.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spellchecking with NVDA


If I get you correct then Alt will only toggle you between the document and the ribbon in MS Word. Try using F7 for a quick spell check.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 23:33, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:


Hello all,



First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.



Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with Word documents?



Thanks,



Janet


Re: Spellchecking with NVDA

Vaibhav Saraf
 

If I get you correct then Alt will only toggle you between the document and the ribbon in MS Word. Try using F7 for a quick spell check.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 23:33, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello all,

 

First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.

 

Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with Word documents?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet  


Spellchecking with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

First, regarding the focus problems I was having, things seem to have improved since installing the newest NVDA. Thanks for your input.

 

Here’s my next question: Back in the Window-Eyes days one could spellcheck documents with WE. Pressing the alt-. and alt-, would move between mis-spelled words. Is it possible to do this with NVDA, particularly with Word documents?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet  


Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

 

And just to confirm this, I havn't changed anything at all.

And the message I am typing appears above on top where it should be.

On 16/10/2020 5:30 am, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmph, I havn't touched any settings in thunderbird which would change this.
I am using the latest version of the stable branch.

On 16/10/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
It's proper neticit to top post.



On 10/15/2020 9:19 AM, john doe wrote:
You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message.  Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years.  Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on
their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who
knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or  malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe








--
John Doe






.


Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

Gene
 

The thread isn't about you bottom posting. You are top posting.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

Hmph, I havn't touched any settings in thunderbird which would change this.
I am using the latest version of the stable branch.

On 16/10/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
It's proper neticit to top post.



On 10/15/2020 9:19 AM, john doe wrote:
You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message. Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years. Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on
their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who
knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe









--
John Doe









Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

Gene
 

You don't need to refrain. Just use control home when writing to this list, before writing the message. I expect you know that. Its just one command and, though you may forget, I suspect it would be easy to remember most of the time.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message. Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years. Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe









--
John Doe


Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

 

Hmph, I havn't touched any settings in thunderbird which would change this.
I am using the latest version of the stable branch.

On 16/10/2020, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
It's proper neticit to top post.



On 10/15/2020 9:19 AM, john doe wrote:
You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message.  Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years.  Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on
their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who
knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or  malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe









--
John Doe









Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It's proper neticit to top post.

On 10/15/2020 9:19 AM, john doe wrote:
You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message.  Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years.  Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or  malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe









--
John Doe




Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

john doe
 

You are correct, I can't get use to the windows top-posting world.

I should refrain from posting to this list.

On 10/15/2020 1:13 PM, Gene wrote:
You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message
because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new
message.  Also, many people will think you left a message with no new
content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I
have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and
performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them
because its safer. I've done this for years.  Plus, the problems didn't
occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has
changed.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or  malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe








--
John Doe


Re: firefox and waterfox issues.

Gene
 

You are bottom ;posting and a lot of people will skip your message because they don't want to plow through the content to find the new message. Also, many people will think you left a message with no new content by mistake.

As far as having scripts disabled, which is what you are discussing, I have seen no instance in which that contributes to crashes and performance problems, and I have scripts disabled unless I need them because its safer. I've done this for years. Plus, the problems didn't occur until recently which indicates that something, somewhere, has changed.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: john doe
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox and waterfox issues.

On 10/15/2020 8:41 AM, john doe wrote:
On 10/14/2020 8:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd go with either edge or chrome.



On 9/25/2020 7:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yeah, its starting to become a thing I am jumping towards to.
Since firefox and waterfox share some features well that makes sence.
I have downgraded to 2020.8.1, but even in the 08x series the system
has been running hot with the brouser active so there could be a leak
going on.
I like classic waterfox because of its uncluttered nature, but if the
makers of this thing refuse to acknowledge that its a problem on their
end, then I am going to have to abandon noscript 5, and try to use
chrome, edge, brave or something.
I'd ideally like a firefox like classic brouser.
What I may have to do is switch back and fforth.
Right now I am running an older waterfox classic which does what I
need it to do but yeah, I am starting to get that to.
Its random, sometimes its fine then sometimes its not.
It can happen quickly or it can well happen later on and randomly.
Taking into account that I have at least 1 site I use for work which
is known to be slow and a lot slower now because it just is who knows.
Its only happening if I load several things in the same tab, any new
tabs are not effected.
At first I thought it was java or malware but its getting to crazy
now, worse its even happening on sites like blogspot where I don't
allow any scripts to execute.
That is probably the issue, if you don't allow dinamic content on the
page, you're heading for trouble.

Are you having the same issue(s) with Tor Browser?
Also have you look at the changelog between the two releases to
understand what could trigger the issue(s)?

Did you try the latest release of NVDA next (trunk)?

--
John Doe


Re: NVDA not working with INSERT+F7

Geraldine.Huzar
 

Thank you for all your great advice. I'll get back to my colleague. 

It's the first time I've used this forum and I'm really impressed with the support.


Re: New NVDA

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Thanks that did do the trick.
******
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
 
Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for Family times

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA

+1 to what Gene said - try rebooting, and then do let us know if it works or not.  While Outlook Express is quite old, I'm not aware of having specifically broken support for it.  

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:50 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Also, have you rebooted since upgrading?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA

I don't know why that is.  If you can still use an older version, there
will, I'm sure, be no solution forthcoming, unless someone wants to create
an add-on, if an add-on can solve the problem.

Outlook Express has not been supported since whenever Windows XP went out of
support.  I think that was roughly six years ago.

You may have to do something like use a portable version of an earlier NVDA
for Outlook Express and switch to the installed version for general work if
you want to use this version as your general version.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA


I just discovered that I cannot use the upgrade with Outlook Express. When I
open an email I can only tab around. I cannot read what is there nor if I
press ctrl+r to reply I cannot type.
******
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you
get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!



Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for
Family times









--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: News – NV Access - NVDA 2020.3 Released #nvaccessnewsfeed

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I always liked NVDA+a and don't find it awkward at all, but then again I use the caps lock as my NVDA modifier key, and "a" is right next to it. :)   

On 14/10/2020 2:39 pm, Leslie wrote:

Hi Quinton,  NVDA, A still works, but I thought it might have changed to an improved way.  I did restart the computer after updating.  I’ve always thought that NVDA, A was awkward, but I’m used to it now.  I should go check What’s New after any update.  I’ve done it, but there are so many new steps that I usually can’t find what I’m looking for.  Maybe I’m just a lazy old thing. Lololol.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] News – NV Access - NVDA 2020.3 Released #NVAccessNewsFeed

 

Hi Leslie,

 

If you have NVDA setup in laptop keyboard layout, then NVDA+A should still work for say all.  If you are using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout, then the keystroke is NVDA+down arrow.

 

If you press NVDA+control+k it opens NVDA's keyboard settings and you can check or change your keyboard layout.

 

Finally, if you find it's not working, have you restarted the PC since you updated NVDA?  Try that first and see if it comes back again.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 2:09 PM Leslie <soundsofmusic@...> wrote:

What are you using for Say All now?  Are you still supposed to use NVDA, A or another set of keys.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] News – NV Access - NVDA 2020.3 Released #NVAccessNewsFeed

 

I just updated my NVDA.

Works great 😀

I love the new feature where the touch interaction can be toggled on and off.

And NVDA definitely seems more responsive.

I am currently using Microsoft word and NVDA seems more responsive while typing, reading character by character, etc.

I love it 😀

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 12:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] News – NV Access - NVDA 2020.3 Released #NVAccessNewsFeed

 

It's working great here too. I love the snappy response too.

 

 

On 10/13/2020 9:35 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Just updated! Everything is so so much more responsive now! It responds to my typing faster than it used to in older versions before the update to Python 3!

 

I've only noticed one thing so far, and it's not necessarily a bad thing either, just something new to adjust to. The pauses after periods are shorter. Sentences feel closer together than they did before when reading. Again, this is something I could become accustomed to with time, and isn't necessarily a problem. I do like the snappy response time very much. :)  

On 14/10/2020 1:13 am, nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration wrote:

NVDA 2020.3 Released

By NV Access

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2020.3 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, is now available for download. We encourage all users to upgrade to this version.

NVDA 2020.3 includes several large improvements to stability and performance, particularly in Microsoft Office applications. There are new settings to toggle touchscreen support and graphics reporting. The existence of marked (highlighted) content can be reported in browsers, and there are new German braille tables.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

While downloading NVDA, please consider becoming a monthly donor. Contributions like yours help NV Access continue our important work.

We also have a range of training material in the NV Access Shop to help you increase your skills with NVDA. Start with the popular Basic Training for NVDA in electronic text, audio and braille. Save with the NVDA Productivity Bundle. This includes Basic Training, all our Microsoft Office training, and telephone support.

Download NVDA 2020.3

To find out what’s new in this release, please visit What’s new in NVDA 2020.3

 

Close-up photograph of NVDA logo in notification area.

 


 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 

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