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Re: NVDA crashed on a friend's computer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,


I think we did get the problem solved for the time being. I suggested that she calls the Microsoft disability line tomorrow. Maybe they might be able to help her further.


Rosemarie



On 10/18/2020 9:37 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
If she presses control+alt+n does she hear the NVDA startup sound?  If she does, and there is no speech, then as Chris suggested, it could be she has disabled speech inadvertently.  In that case, she could press NVDA+control+r three times quickly to reset NVDA back to factory defaults.

If NVDA isn't running, she could press WINDOWS+CONTROL+ENTER to start Narrator to find it.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 3:15 AM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, everyone,


A friend of mine is having a problem with her computer and NVDA
crashing. She just called me and said when she turns on her computer,
she gets the windows sounds but no speech. I had her do a couple of
things like hitting alt control N to bring NVDA back up. I also had her
hit her windows logo key and type NVDA in the search box. Nothing we did
brought NVDA back up. What can she try?


Thanks so much for your help in advance.


Rosemarie










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Re: NVDA crashed on a friend's computer

Quentin Christensen
 

If she presses control+alt+n does she hear the NVDA startup sound?  If she does, and there is no speech, then as Chris suggested, it could be she has disabled speech inadvertently.  In that case, she could press NVDA+control+r three times quickly to reset NVDA back to factory defaults.

If NVDA isn't running, she could press WINDOWS+CONTROL+ENTER to start Narrator to find it.

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 3:15 AM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, everyone,


A friend of mine is having a problem with her computer and NVDA
crashing. She just called me and said when she turns on her computer,
she gets the windows sounds but no speech. I had her do a couple of
things like hitting alt control N to bring NVDA back up. I also had her
hit her windows logo key and type NVDA in the search box. Nothing we did
brought NVDA back up. What can she try?


Thanks so much for your help in advance.


Rosemarie










--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


Where I need direction on what I need to study in order to be a tech writer for NVDA. I believe that once I understand something I can teach it to anyone. My stumbling block is that I have had some programming classes but that was twenty years ago. I taught myself basic web design from a book. What do I need to know to be of help where the users guide is concerned?
******
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the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
 
Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for Family times

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

Hi,

Agreed (that’s one of the reasons why I comment a lot in my add-on source code).

One holiday wish I have (possibly a long-term wish) is to help folks get started on revamping the NVDA community documentation. At least this can include add-on user guides, but I foresee a day where the screen reader user guide would not escape this rewrite in hopes of making it more relevant for users. I would go so far as ask NVDA code contributors to add extensive documentation in source code itself – it is now possible to do it easily with help from a module called Sphinx, a source code based documentation generator. There are major issues to consider, however:

  1. Who is the target audience: thinking about this changes the game, as it will dictate tone, style, word usage, and organization of the document and supplemental materials.
  2. Mindset of code contributors: are we just software developers or technical authors? Some people would argue that developers should focus on programming and testing, leaving the task of documenting what developers wrote to technical authors, and this separation of concerns may foster better communication amongst team members. On the other hand, by forcing developers to become technical authors, they can make crucial decisions about the user-visible aspects of a given product a bit early.
  3. How can we show we accept diversity in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors: although the community documentation was written by NV Access people at first, it is increasingly written by people from diverse backgrounds in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors (although I did receive training on technical communication and software development, I’m not a native English speaker). This is more so for parts that are written by people who may have different interpretation about a UI message or concepts, more so if the author’s native language is not English (the reverse is true for translators as they need to grasp concepts written in English in their native languages).

 

My responses to the above questions are:

  1. Who is the target audience: it varies. For NVDA user guide, it is users with differing skill levels. For add-on guides, they target end users. For this reason, whenever I edit the NVDA user guide or add-on guides, I think about what users expect and NVDA’s response. This changes if we’re dealing with a document meant for developers (such as add-on internals and such).
  2. Mindset of code contributors: I believe that, as much as programming skills is important, willingness to communicate with audiences (users, other contributors, industry experts, etc.) is also important. One way to practice both is thinking and writing to and about users, therefore I tend to fall into a bit of the latter category from above: programming is, in one way or another, writing. Python is just one of the more specialized languages used to communicate with another entity (the machine), and if one can teach a computer to do something (along with fixing mistakes), it would be possible to train developers to respect users more by writing good documentation (of course someone may need to look at the documentation for style and such). My philosophy partly stems from my experiences as a former computer science major at a college I attended (different from the one I’m about to graduate from): my first computer science professor stressed the importance of source code comments and documentation, and I still practice this lesson today, which fuels my overall frustration with the current state of NVDA user guide and source code documentation in general. I think one exercise code contributors can do before submitting anything to GitHub (specifically, pull; requests) is writing an early user facing documentation, because doing so helps you improve your writing skills and think carefully about the impact of your changes when users meet them (I sometimes find myself struggling for minutes to hours over UI messages and documentation for this reason; I know what my code will do, but I hit a roadblock when explaining what I’ve done to would-be users before actually writing code).
  3. How can we show we are a group of people coming from diverse backgrounds: I think this goal was somewhat achieved when we look at recent NVDA work – many new features and bug fixes included in NVDA 2020.3 were written by someone other than an NV Access staff member, from people living in different countries and speaking many languages. But I know that we can improve on that somehow.

 

Another wish I have, mostly for Quentin: can we develop some sort of a training program for would-be contributors wishing to improve the overall NVDA community documentation, including the user guide? It may include basics on technical writing, tone and style, audience analysis, exercises where coding and documentation should be done together, and documentation production in a variety of formats (including online media). I think this may help us dive deeper into user guide issues being brought up, including the guide being “too thick” for newbies (in terms of understanding, lack of solid examples, and friendliness), especially for preferences chapter.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Joseph,

           While I applaud your efforts, and tutorials are invaluable, I wasn't even going that far.  I'm talking basic documentation, where each item in a panel/pane/settings group in a given pane are briefly documented.  There are myriad NVDA settings that, if their actual function is not directly obvious, which is the case, for example, with most checkboxes, then they're a black hole.

            Even I will admit that for all software it is a limited number of end users who refer to this sort of thing.  That being said, some do, and it serves as a very important basis for new developers to develop depth of knowledge of "what's in there and what it's for."

             I was just commenting to someone for whom I've done custom VBA scripting for Outlook that I am eternally grateful to myself for having developed the habit of rigorously commenting my code, at a bare minimum, as even I would have no idea what some of what I've written actually does when looking at it much later.  Complex stuff doesn't remain in "off the top of my head" mode (for most "mes") as time moves on.  That's one of the reasons that basic documentation is so important.
--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Joseph,

           First, in reference to your final comment, there are different levels of documentation for end users, too.  All user guides I've ever seen, and I say this as a tech geek, are "too thick/too information dense" for newbies, but they're really not meant as getting started guides, either.  Hence the rise of the getting started guide, which is really focused on just that, as well as, oftentimes, an intermediate guide that hacks out of the full user guide the things that most users use most of the time, and tweaking as needed.  There is no way that I've ever seen that one can create documentation that is really useful for newbies, versus average somewhat sophisticated users, versus those who are willing and able to do "deep dives under the hood."

             As to the mindset of code contributors, and I speak from general experience of many years in software development, you are going to have to be able to discuss your software with someone who knows next to nothing about how it works and do so such that they can understand what you're saying.  Coders take specifications (or often they do) which are minimum requirements, and often more, and translate those into working code.  You very often have to go back and forth with the specification writers, who have back and forth with end users requesting something, and often both on the front end, and then after the code is written, if you're not writing the documentation yourself, with the technical writers who are tasked with producing same. It is, and always has been, a myth that coders can live in a coding-only bubble and not have to interact with those outside that bubble about anything.  And some of the biggest problems in the industry as a whole are the direct result of trying to create that artificial bubble that have failed, and repeatedly, before most organizations clue in to the concept that computer people do have to have people skills and be willing to use them.

             A spectacular coder who cannot communicate about what they're producing to others is worth less, in any organization I've been in, than a good coder who can communicate with ease with all other stakeholders about what they're producing.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA and current selection in file explorer

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


the add on is not on the nvaccess add on page.


it came across the list so I downloaded it and put it into my drop box account where I have other add ons for earlier versions of nvda and later ones.

They are keaped on my nvda add ons page on my website.

some of them you will not find on the NVACCESS add on page.



The file wil tell you how many of the files are selected in the file manager as for some reason it is broken in Windows 10. You will need to know how to select the files which I done a rough tutorial for that I posted across the list. It will be tidied up and later on put on the website along with some other material.


The file can be gotten from https://www.dropbox.com/s/a935bus11i8y8k0/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


On 19/10/2020 8:29 am, Louise Pfau wrote:
Hi.  I can't find the add-on you mentioned in the community add-ons list, which is where I go to get my add-ons.  Where did you originally find it?

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Hi,

Agreed (that’s one of the reasons why I comment a lot in my add-on source code).

One holiday wish I have (possibly a long-term wish) is to help folks get started on revamping the NVDA community documentation. At least this can include add-on user guides, but I foresee a day where the screen reader user guide would not escape this rewrite in hopes of making it more relevant for users. I would go so far as ask NVDA code contributors to add extensive documentation in source code itself – it is now possible to do it easily with help from a module called Sphinx, a source code based documentation generator. There are major issues to consider, however:

  1. Who is the target audience: thinking about this changes the game, as it will dictate tone, style, word usage, and organization of the document and supplemental materials.
  2. Mindset of code contributors: are we just software developers or technical authors? Some people would argue that developers should focus on programming and testing, leaving the task of documenting what developers wrote to technical authors, and this separation of concerns may foster better communication amongst team members. On the other hand, by forcing developers to become technical authors, they can make crucial decisions about the user-visible aspects of a given product a bit early.
  3. How can we show we accept diversity in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors: although the community documentation was written by NV Access people at first, it is increasingly written by people from diverse backgrounds in terms of culture, language, skill level, and other factors (although I did receive training on technical communication and software development, I’m not a native English speaker). This is more so for parts that are written by people who may have different interpretation about a UI message or concepts, more so if the author’s native language is not English (the reverse is true for translators as they need to grasp concepts written in English in their native languages).

 

My responses to the above questions are:

  1. Who is the target audience: it varies. For NVDA user guide, it is users with differing skill levels. For add-on guides, they target end users. For this reason, whenever I edit the NVDA user guide or add-on guides, I think about what users expect and NVDA’s response. This changes if we’re dealing with a document meant for developers (such as add-on internals and such).
  2. Mindset of code contributors: I believe that, as much as programming skills is important, willingness to communicate with audiences (users, other contributors, industry experts, etc.) is also important. One way to practice both is thinking and writing to and about users, therefore I tend to fall into a bit of the latter category from above: programming is, in one way or another, writing. Python is just one of the more specialized languages used to communicate with another entity (the machine), and if one can teach a computer to do something (along with fixing mistakes), it would be possible to train developers to respect users more by writing good documentation (of course someone may need to look at the documentation for style and such). My philosophy partly stems from my experiences as a former computer science major at a college I attended (different from the one I’m about to graduate from): my first computer science professor stressed the importance of source code comments and documentation, and I still practice this lesson today, which fuels my overall frustration with the current state of NVDA user guide and source code documentation in general. I think one exercise code contributors can do before submitting anything to GitHub (specifically, pull; requests) is writing an early user facing documentation, because doing so helps you improve your writing skills and think carefully about the impact of your changes when users meet them (I sometimes find myself struggling for minutes to hours over UI messages and documentation for this reason; I know what my code will do, but I hit a roadblock when explaining what I’ve done to would-be users before actually writing code).
  3. How can we show we are a group of people coming from diverse backgrounds: I think this goal was somewhat achieved when we look at recent NVDA work – many new features and bug fixes included in NVDA 2020.3 were written by someone other than an NV Access staff member, from people living in different countries and speaking many languages. But I know that we can improve on that somehow.

 

Another wish I have, mostly for Quentin: can we develop some sort of a training program for would-be contributors wishing to improve the overall NVDA community documentation, including the user guide? It may include basics on technical writing, tone and style, audience analysis, exercises where coding and documentation should be done together, and documentation production in a variety of formats (including online media). I think this may help us dive deeper into user guide issues being brought up, including the guide being “too thick” for newbies (in terms of understanding, lack of solid examples, and friendliness), especially for preferences chapter.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Joseph,

           While I applaud your efforts, and tutorials are invaluable, I wasn't even going that far.  I'm talking basic documentation, where each item in a panel/pane/settings group in a given pane are briefly documented.  There are myriad NVDA settings that, if their actual function is not directly obvious, which is the case, for example, with most checkboxes, then they're a black hole.

            Even I will admit that for all software it is a limited number of end users who refer to this sort of thing.  That being said, some do, and it serves as a very important basis for new developers to develop depth of knowledge of "what's in there and what it's for."

             I was just commenting to someone for whom I've done custom VBA scripting for Outlook that I am eternally grateful to myself for having developed the habit of rigorously commenting my code, at a bare minimum, as even I would have no idea what some of what I've written actually does when looking at it much later.  Complex stuff doesn't remain in "off the top of my head" mode (for most "mes") as time moves on.  That's one of the reasons that basic documentation is so important.
--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA and current selection in file explorer

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I can't find the add-on you mentioned in the community add-ons list, which is where I go to get my add-ons.  Where did you originally find it?

Thanks,

Louise


Re: BARD express

Joshua Hendrickson
 

I know, it is so awesome. Bard express works so well now with the new
version of NVDA.

On 10/18/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I am pleased with how nvda is much better. I am able to gett all of the
annotation now while using the advance mode.
******
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you
get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!


Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for
Family times





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Joshua Hendrickson


BARD express

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am pleased with how nvda is much better. I am able to gett all of the annotation now while using the advance mode. 
******
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
 
Or ask your A device to play Family times on tuneIn
You can also find us on your mobile device install OoTunes and search for Family times


Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Joseph,

           While I applaud your efforts, and tutorials are invaluable, I wasn't even going that far.  I'm talking basic documentation, where each item in a panel/pane/settings group in a given pane are briefly documented.  There are myriad NVDA settings that, if their actual function is not directly obvious, which is the case, for example, with most checkboxes, then they're a black hole.

            Even I will admit that for all software it is a limited number of end users who refer to this sort of thing.  That being said, some do, and it serves as a very important basis for new developers to develop depth of knowledge of "what's in there and what it's for."

             I was just commenting to someone for whom I've done custom VBA scripting for Outlook that I am eternally grateful to myself for having developed the habit of rigorously commenting my code, at a bare minimum, as even I would have no idea what some of what I've written actually does when looking at it much later.  Complex stuff doesn't remain in "off the top of my head" mode (for most "mes") as time moves on.  That's one of the reasons that basic documentation is so important.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Maximum number of characters on one line

Gene
 

The browser is what breaks up material into lines on web pages exdcept, of course, where a new paragraph begins. When browse mode or the virtual pc cursor format a page, they ddetermine how many carachters will be on a line. When you set the number of carachters, you are determining how long you want a line to be.

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Robinett
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 11:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Maximum number of characters on one line


To be honest, I’ve never even understood what that setting means or what it even correlates to. Maximum characters for what? Isn’t NVDA just reading whatever you are telling it to? Something I could obviously use more education on.

On Oct 17, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Eilana Benish <benish.ilana@gmail.com> wrote:












Hello

why in NVDA, user can't change the Maximum number of characters on one line from mor then 250 Characters?

Allowing this feature will help in very long and complex documents When the user wants to read the entire line with NVDA and up arrow?





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Re: NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Hi,

Generally, the newer the setting, it is better documented in the user guide. For example, consider the just mentioned setting in browse mode panel versus touch interaction panel – the former is an old setting, while the latter is a recent section (bonus: I wrote the touch interaction section apart from a bit on toggling touch interaction with a keyboard command). The user guide as currently stands has limitations, including covering only the basic scenarios.

Part of the reason why I produced Welcome to NVDA tutorial series (2013, 2015, 2018) was due to personal frustrations with the NVDA user guide. The biggest frustration is the issue Brian mentioned: lack of real-life scenarios. This is why when you listen to (or watch video) tutorials, you’ll notice more real-life examples being presented, and I believe that’s one of the strengths of NV Access’s own basic training material as well.

One idea I briefly considered was producing the fourth edition of Welcome to NVDA series this year but shelved it, knowing that there are folks who can produce better tutorial sets, along with the fact that NV Access has a basic training material now. But if there is a really strong demand for it, I’ll revisit this idea next year, with a possibility that the fourth edition will be the last Welcome to NVDA set I produce.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Does such exist?

When reviewing the User Guide (at least what I've been able to find) there is very little to nothing regarding a number of NVDA settings, what they do, and how they change interaction with "the real world" things NVDA's working with.

One example is the Maximum Characters per line setting in Browse settings.  I can find absolutely nothing that clearly documents what that setting does or what changing it will do to NVDA's behavior.

I have to presume that there is a document that would go, panel by panel, and setting-by-setting, through these and what they do.  But if such exists, I really don't know where it is.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


NVDA Settings Documentation

 

Does such exist?

When reviewing the User Guide (at least what I've been able to find) there is very little to nothing regarding a number of NVDA settings, what they do, and how they change interaction with "the real world" things NVDA's working with.

One example is the Maximum Characters per line setting in Browse settings.  I can find absolutely nothing that clearly documents what that setting does or what changing it will do to NVDA's behavior.

I have to presume that there is a document that would go, panel by panel, and setting-by-setting, through these and what they do.  But if such exists, I really don't know where it is.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: NVDA 2020.3: enable selective registration for UA automation events not having any impact in visual studio 2019

Luke Robinett
 

Yeah. Honestly there are a lot of problems with NVDA and visual studio. I am amazed I am as productive as I am in that software given I don’t have access to even a fraction of what cited users do because of the lack of support.

On Oct 17, 2020, at 12:44 AM, rowen brian <manchen0528@...> wrote:

Hello 
The parameter prompt of the method cannot be read out, press Ctrl +k, Ctrl+P


Re: Maximum number of characters on one line

Luke Robinett
 

To be honest, I’ve never even understood what that setting means or what it even correlates to. Maximum characters for what? Isn’t NVDA just reading whatever you are telling it to? Something I could obviously use more education on.

On Oct 17, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Eilana Benish <benish.ilana@...> wrote:




Hello

why in NVDA, user can't change the Maximum number of characters on one line from mor then 250 Characters?

Allowing this feature will help in very long and complex documents When the user wants to read the entire line with NVDA and up arrow?

 

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ובכבוד רב | Sincerely,

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ניהול פרויקטים – נגישות ושמישות אינטרנט וטכנולוגיות מידע  | Projects manager – Accessibility & usability on internet and ICT

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.10.2 released, a few notices about add-on development for the next few weeks #addonrelease

Hettie
 

Hi Luke

Thanks, will install it.


Hettie

On 2020/10/17 5:21 pm, Luke Davis wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, Hettie wrote:

Is Windows 10 App Essentials  a windows or nvda app?
Neither. It is an NVDA add-on. Press Insert+n, t, and go down to "manage add-ons" and press enter. That will allow you to install add-ons into NVDA. You can press Alt+G to open a web page where you can find add-ons. Move to Windows 10 App Essentials, press enter, move to the "stable version" link, and select that.

 > Is it essential to use it with windows 10??

Windows 10 will be more accessible and much more pleasant to use if you do use the add-on.  You can use NVDA in Windows 10 without it, but I can't think of a good reason not to use Win 10 App Essentials, and many good reasons why you should use it.

Does it automatically come with either windows 10 or nvda?
No. See above.

Luke



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Re: NVDA and current selection in file explorer

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Sorry I thought I had put it into the email as well as the other steps to high light the files you wanted.


the link to the drop box where it is is athttps://www.dropbox.com/s/a935bus11i8y8k0/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1 <https://www.dropbox.com/s/a935bus11i8y8k0/ZExplorer_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1>




Gene nz

On 18/10/2020 3:30 pm, William Wong wrote:
Hi, what is the addon you mentioned in the email?


hurrikennyandopo ... 於 18/10/2020 9:36 寫道:
Hi


The following will help so you know when it is selected or not and the add on will tell you how many were high lighted  etc.


Do not worry about the spelling mistakes they will be fixed up before they go to my website.



  *Selecting and unselecting files in file explorer
when you go into a folder in file explorer you might only want to copy certain files out of that folder. They might not be together or in a group. to copy only certain files out of the folder if there are heaps of them you will need to do the following.
it would be easier to go to the top of the folder so you can see all the files below. Now hold down the CTRL key then use the space bar to select or unselect hightlight files. Each time you press the space bar on a unselected file it will then become selected. Work your way down the files you want and select them with the spacebar while still holding the CTRL key.
You should hear  wheather it is select or unselected. as you arrow down the list of files.r To confirm which ones you selected while still holding down the CTRL key go to the top of the folder then arrow down the list. If it only says the name of the song it is selected but if it says the name of the song and unselected then you know it is not. Usually the status bar can be read with the NVDA key + END key but not at present.

Gene nz



On 18/10/2020 12:27 pm, William Wong wrote:
Hi all,

In file explorer, after doing file or folder selection with shift up or down arrow, if I press num 5 key, it will only report the last item being selected.

After reading the user menu, it seemed that there is no way to report what are the items being selected?

Thanks,

William











Maximum number of characters on one line

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Hello

why in NVDA, user can't change the Maximum number of characters on one line from mor then 250 Characters?

Allowing this feature will help in very long and complex documents When the user wants to read the entire line with NVDA and up arrow?

 

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Re: NVDA and current selection in file explorer

William
 

Oh sorry, I found out the link in another email.


William Wong 於 18/10/2020 10:30 寫道:

Hi, what is the addon you mentioned in the email?


hurrikennyandopo ... 於 18/10/2020 9:36 寫道:
Hi


The following will help so you know when it is selected or not and the add on will tell you how many were high lighted  etc.


Do not worry about the spelling mistakes they will be fixed up before they go to my website.



  *Selecting and unselecting files in file explorer
when you go into a folder in file explorer you might only want to copy certain files out of that folder. They might not be together or in a group. to copy only certain files out of the folder if there are heaps of them you will need to do the following.
it would be easier to go to the top of the folder so you can see all the files below. Now hold down the CTRL key then use the space bar to select or unselect hightlight files. Each time you press the space bar on a unselected file it will then become selected. Work your way down the files you want and select them with the spacebar while still holding the CTRL key.
You should hear  wheather it is select or unselected. as you arrow down the list of files.r To confirm which ones you selected while still holding down the CTRL key go to the top of the folder then arrow down the list. If it only says the name of the song it is selected but if it says the name of the song and unselected then you know it is not. Usually the status bar can be read with the NVDA key + END key but not at present.

Gene nz



On 18/10/2020 12:27 pm, William Wong wrote:
Hi all,

In file explorer, after doing file or folder selection with shift up or down arrow, if I press num 5 key, it will only report the last item being selected.

After reading the user menu, it seemed that there is no way to report what are the items being selected?

Thanks,

William








Re: NVDA and current selection in file explorer

William
 

Hi, what is the addon you mentioned in the email?


hurrikennyandopo ... 於 18/10/2020 9:36 寫道:

Hi


The following will help so you know when it is selected or not and the add on will tell you how many were high lighted  etc.


Do not worry about the spelling mistakes they will be fixed up before they go to my website.



  *Selecting and unselecting files in file explorer
when you go into a folder in file explorer you might only want to copy certain files out of that folder. They might not be together or in a group. to copy only certain files out of the folder if there are heaps of them you will need to do the following.
it would be easier to go to the top of the folder so you can see all the files below. Now hold down the CTRL key then use the space bar to select or unselect hightlight files. Each time you press the space bar on a unselected file it will then become selected. Work your way down the files you want and select them with the spacebar while still holding the CTRL key.
You should hear  wheather it is select or unselected. as you arrow down the list of files.r To confirm which ones you selected while still holding down the CTRL key go to the top of the folder then arrow down the list. If it only says the name of the song it is selected but if it says the name of the song and unselected then you know it is not. Usually the status bar can be read with the NVDA key + END key but not at present.

Gene nz



On 18/10/2020 12:27 pm, William Wong wrote:
Hi all,

In file explorer, after doing file or folder selection with shift up or down arrow, if I press num 5 key, it will only report the last item being selected.

After reading the user menu, it seemed that there is no way to report what are the items being selected?

Thanks,

William







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