On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 05:55 AM, Pele West wrote:

This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am trying to do.

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And, for the record, there is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with doing this.  The idea is to avoid long discussions of either out-of-support software or other screen readers, but the use of something for an, "I can do {action} this way with {insert screen reader, living or dead, here}, but can I do it with NVDA?," question is completely legitimate.

Questions of that form could not be about anything except how to use NVDA, which is dead-on topic for this group.  The use of other screen readers for comparison and/or contrast and/or clarification of intent is not forbidden, and never has been.
 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.

On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.

On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than

helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get

it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I

know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am

trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character

under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect

they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West

Actually, the LION OCR Addon sometimes discussed on-list does a decent job when invoked in Zoom Screen Sharing.

Hello,

Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.

But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.

Best

Sylvie

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De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io

Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13

À : nvda@nvda.groups.io

Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.

My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.

For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!

Hello,
Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.
But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.
Best
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:

HI. Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service, Sunday School, if you like. The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform. Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom? Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point? If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid. All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time. Thank you and cheers!

I appreciate the link to Alan’s tutorial but I know how to set the
Define Name Excel labels for rows and columns according to JAWS which
Alan refers to as option 1. That’s not the issue. My question is if I
set row and column headings with NVDA those headings are not
recognized with JAWS but the NVDA user guide says they should be.

Thanks, Gerry

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 7:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Excel Column and row headings not recognized by
JAWS

See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility
Discussion Group, in topic, */Reading row and column headers using
Excel defined titles tutorial/*
<https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/message/511>

His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself,
from Dropbox.

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Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./

~ Kelley Boorn

Gerry,

            All I can tell you is that if you set this up, in Excel, it works in any screen reader, regardless of what screen reader you're using to work with Excel.  But the actual manipulation of row/column titles must occur in Excel so that it "goes with" no matter what screen reader the spreadsheet may be handed to.

            Read the tutorial.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

I appreciate the link to Alan’s tutorial but I know how to set the Define Name Excel labels for rows and columns according to JAWS which Alan refers to as option 1. That’s not the issue. My question is if I set row and column headings with NVDA those headings are not recognized with JAWS but the NVDA user guide says they should be.
Thanks, Gerry
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 7:59 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Excel Column and row headings not recognized by JAWS
See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, in topic, */Reading row and column headers using Excel defined titles tutorial/* <https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/message/511>
His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself, from Dropbox.
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Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041
/It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white./
~ Kelley Boorn

See Alan Lemly's tutorial on the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group, in topic, Reading row and column headers using Excel defined titles tutorial

His message has downloadable examples and the whole tutorial itself, from Dropbox.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn