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Unable to share links on FB

David Russell
 

Hi Group,

Oops, sorry I did not see this before posting my own struggle. I
receive the NVDA group digest.
Suffice to say, a big heart felt thanks to the one who shared another
way to bring up the former version of FB:
mbasic.facebook.com
I too cannot delete messages, create new messages, and its haphazard
to comment on posts via the new crappy interface.
I could not even submit a problem report per the new interface. I
hasten to add, some of my sighted friends indicate they have not been
hit with this new roll-out and - for them is business as usual.
Short of the classic version, I am clueless on how to accomplish much
with the newer platform.
Tutorials seem dated at best even from AFB.
Cheers,

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locked Re: Possible to purchase Microsoft outlook separately?

 

Thanks to all involved in this topic as far as their helpfulness and courtesy in response to same.

I did want to add something "as a public service" for the group before I lock the topic.  If you are looking for any piece of software "separately" the best thing to do is to web search on that software's name with the addition of the term "standalone," as a single word.  Try this yourself for Outlook, in this case, and you'll see what I mean in the first few results.

It has been common practice in computing circles to call anything that can run on its own the standalone version of a program.  And when you want to know if something you're familiar with in a suite might be available by itself, standalone is the magic search term.
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Re: Two NVDA Questions

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:46 PM, Gene wrote:
For clarification, it should be pointed out that you don't need an account to search for and read issues on Github. You can't comment without an account.
-
Yup, and sorry for creating the impression you couldn't view without one.  And if you want to view, the page to do that is:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues 

But if you want to be able to comment on existing issues (bug reports) or Feature Requests, or want to be able to create either of those for the folks at NVAccess, you do have to have a GitHub Account.
 
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Gene
 

For clarification, it should be pointed out that you don't need an account to search for and read issues on Github. You can't comment without an account.

I used Google to search for discussion of the question I asked and found nothing. You can search Github if you do a properly worded Google search.

It may not matter that refresh screen is limited to browse mode but I wonder if there are times when refreshing the screen elsewhere would be beneficial.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Two NVDA Questions

I have an account. I'll see if I can find anything.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Two NVDA Questions

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Does it matter? Should this be addressed on Github?-
I'd say if it matters to you (any you), at the very least you should look in
the NVDA GitHub Issues Page (after having set yourself up with a GitHub
Account and access to the NVAccess/NVDA project in your account) to see if
an issue already exists. If it does, add a comment, and if it doesn't, and
this is important to you, create a new bug report.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Gene
 

I have an account. I'll see if I can find anything.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Two NVDA Questions

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Does it matter? Should this be addressed on Github?-
I'd say if it matters to you (any you), at the very least you should look in the NVDA GitHub Issues Page (after having set yourself up with a GitHub Account and access to the NVAccess/NVDA project in your account) to see if an issue already exists. If it does, add a comment, and if it doesn't, and this is important to you, create a new bug report.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn


Re: Two NVDA Questions

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Does it matter?  Should this be addressed on Github?
-
I'd say if it matters to you (any you), at the very least you should look in the NVDA GitHub Issues Page (after having set yourself up with a GitHub Account and access to the NVAccess/NVDA project in your account) to see if an issue already exists.  If it does, add a comment, and if it doesn't, and this is important to you, create a new bug report.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Gene
 

Regarding a comparison with Window-eyes and JAWS, my recollection is that redraw screen commands in those screen-readers worked anywhere.  In NVDA, the command only works in browse mode.  Does it matter?  Should this be addressed on Github?


Gene

On 10/27/2020 10:25 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 05:55 AM, Pele West wrote:
This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am trying to do.
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And, for the record, there is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with doing this.  The idea is to avoid long discussions of either out-of-support software or other screen readers, but the use of something for an, "I can do {action} this way with {insert screen reader, living or dead, here}, but can I do it with NVDA?," question is completely legitimate.

Questions of that form could not be about anything except how to use NVDA, which is dead-on topic for this group.  The use of other screen readers for comparison and/or contrast and/or clarification of intent is not forbidden, and never has been.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Two NVDA Questions

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 05:55 AM, Pele West wrote:
This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am trying to do.
-
And, for the record, there is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with doing this.  The idea is to avoid long discussions of either out-of-support software or other screen readers, but the use of something for an, "I can do {action} this way with {insert screen reader, living or dead, here}, but can I do it with NVDA?," question is completely legitimate.

Questions of that form could not be about anything except how to use NVDA, which is dead-on topic for this group.  The use of other screen readers for comparison and/or contrast and/or clarification of intent is not forbidden, and never has been.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Tutorials On New Facebook Platform?

 

David,

             I am not a Facebook user, at all, but I have noticed a number of recent conversations saying that users of what had been m.facebook.com should use mbasic.facebook.com if they want to use the "old style" mobile interface.

             These days I think it's going to be critical to identify which URL/page you're actually using until/unless Facebook kills off one of them in order to receive accurate advice.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Sarah k Alawami
 

For your first question it's nvda plus f5 per the manual. At least it is for the laptop function. Dunno about desktop keystrokes.

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On 27 Oct 2020, at 3:18, Sam Taylor via groups.io wrote:

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.


On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West








Re: Two NVDA Questions

Pele West
 

Hi Ralf

Thanks so much.

Pele


Tutorials On New Facebook Platform?

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

I am using the mobile version of Facebook, as historically, it has
been much easier and convenient with the aid of NVDA. However, as the
new interface has replaced the classic version, I cannot find info
that is up-to-date on:
How to delete messages
Generate a new message to any of my friends
Determine the type of reaction by individual group members to my posts
It now says for example, three liked, one cared.

Access World by AFB has some instruction, but not sure that it is as
current as needed. Thanks in advance for your potential help.

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David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Pele West
 

Hi Sam

Thanks. There is always something new to learn.

Pele


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi Sam,

Thanks for that info. Recently I was getting confused between *v* and *b* announcement. Pressing the combination twice helped me in the case.

Thanks,
Vaibhav

On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 15:48, Sam Taylor via groups.io <samtaylor9=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.


On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West








Re: Two NVDA Questions

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

And I answer the first question. NVDA-F5 refreshes the browser buffer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2020 11:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Two NVDA Questions

 

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.

 

On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone
 
I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.
 
1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.
 
2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?
 
Thanks
 
Pele West
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Two NVDA Questions

Sam Taylor
 

I can answer your second question.

Pressing NVDA + dot, or numpad 2 if using desktop layout, reports the character of the current navigator object.Pressing the key combination 3 times will give you the ascii and hexidecimal value.


On 27/10/2020 7:55 pm, Pele West wrote:

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West








Two NVDA Questions

Pele West
 

Hi Everyone

I have two separate NVDA questions, so apologise for the less than
helpful subject line.

1. Is there a way of getting NVDA to redraw the screen, or rather to get
it to check the screen again? This was possible in Window-Eyes (which I
know I should not mention), but I am using it so people know what I am
trying to do.

2. Is there a way to get NVDA to display the value of the character
under the cursor? In days gone by they were ASCII values, but I suspect
they will be UTF8 now?

Thanks

Pele West


Re: Zoom and Screen Sharing

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I use the NVDA built-in OCR with NVDA-R to explore the content of a presentation. All you have to make sure is that you are on the part of Zoom where NVDA says “Zoom Meeting”. You can go there with F6.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Taylor via groups.io
Sent: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2020 09:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

 

Actually, the LION OCR Addon sometimes discussed on-list does a decent job when invoked in Zoom Screen Sharing.

 

On 27/10/2020 6:49 pm, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,
Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.
But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.
Best
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing
 
The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
 
On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
 
HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.
 
 
For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: Zoom and Screen Sharing

Sam Taylor
 

Actually, the LION OCR Addon sometimes discussed on-list does a decent job when invoked in Zoom Screen Sharing.


On 27/10/2020 6:49 pm, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello,
Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.
But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.
Best
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

HI.  Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service,  Sunday School, if you like.  The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform.  Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom?  Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point?  If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid.  All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time.  Thank you and cheers!
















Re: Zoom and Screen Sharing

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,
Yes, sharing the screen is rather easy. You can use the short cut alt + S to access the sharing options.
But in none of the conferencing systems I have seen a possibility to see the shared content from others with NVDA or any other screen reader. This windows remains inaccessible for us.
Best
Sylvie

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Luke Robinett via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 26 octobre 2020 19:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Zoom and Screen Sharing

The few times I’ve shared my screen on zoom it has been accessible. You choose to share your screen and then you can hit the tab key to choose from different options, including sharing your entire desktop or just a particular application. There’s also an option to share your computer audio along with the display if you want.
My advice would be to do a dry run with a sighted person so they could give you feedback on how everything shows up on their end. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

On Oct 25, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:

HI. Apologies for asking this particular question but I do need some help and advise if it could be managed.


For the next two months, I'll be conducting, fortnightly, the singing segment for my church's Kids worship service, Sunday School, if you like. The services will be conducted on the Zoom platform. Have any any of you done presentations on Zoom? Have you been successful in screen sharing, presenting your segments with Video or Power Point? If so, I would like some help, advise and hints as to how to manage and handle Screen shares as a blind or visually impaired person, the dos and don'ts and what to avoid. All input would be most valuable and appreciated as I will be embarking on this venture for the first time. Thank you and cheers!





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