Re: NVDA performance in remote or virtual environments
Adriani Botez
Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
abdul muhamin
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From: Chelsea
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA integration in video games
I'd like to know what screen reader the new Sony PlayStation is going to use.
Chelsea
On 10/30/20, Matthew Whitaker <matthew.whitaker2011@...> wrote: > Also what about NVDA as well? > > > >> On Oct 30, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> >> wrote: >> >> for those people who heard the voiceover recognition is not that great, >> you are wrong. I tried it, and it is just completely amazing! I now have >> access to apps which were completely completely in accessible before. It's >> amazing. >> > > > > > > >
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
abdul muhamin
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From: Chelsea
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 10:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA integration in video games
I'd like to know what screen reader the new Sony PlayStation is going to use.
Chelsea
On 10/30/20, Matthew Whitaker <matthew.whitaker2011@...> wrote: > Also what about NVDA as well? > > > >> On Oct 30, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> >> wrote: >> >> for those people who heard the voiceover recognition is not that great, >> you are wrong. I tried it, and it is just completely amazing! I now have >> access to apps which were completely completely in accessible before. It's >> amazing. >> > > > > > > >
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StationPlaylist add-on 20.11/20.09.3-LTS released
#addonrelease
Hi all, StationPlaylist add-on 20.11 and 20.09.3-LTS are now available. These releases (stable channel for the former, long-term support version for the latter) include some noticeable changes to how playlist viewer items are announced, along with letting you access encoder settings dialog for the add-on by pressing F12 key from encoders list. As always, the new releases can be found via Add-on Updater and on community add-ons website. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
Chelsea <Lady.arwen15@...>
I'd like to know what screen reader the new Sony PlayStation is going to use.
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Chelsea
On 10/30/20, Matthew Whitaker <matthew.whitaker2011@gmail.com> wrote:
Also what about NVDA as well?On Oct 30, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@gmail.com>
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Re: NVDA Remote
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 03:28 AM, A.Mac wrote:
in n v d a remote can you swapp files?- With the advent of cloud-based file sharing, and tons of free services to accomplish that, I expect we'll see that feature dying out even where it's present as time goes by. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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NVDA Remote
Ryan Fleury <ryan@...>
Thanks to all of you who replied to my nvda remote question, I think what I missed was the host name nvdaremote.com the next time I need to use this I will give it a try. Thanks again.
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
Matthew Whitaker
Also what about NVDA as well?
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
Matthew Whitaker
How does it work for VoiceOver? Sorry if this is off topic…
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
Josh Kennedy
for those people who heard the voiceover recognition is not that great, you are wrong. I tried it, and it is just completely amazing! I now have access to apps which were completely completely in accessible before. It's amazing.
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Re: NVDA Remote
A.Mac
tankyou On 30/10/2020 08:35, Chris Mullins
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-- Thanks for your time in advance. 😎 Later A.Mac [all out going mail is scanned by Avira]
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Re: NVDA Remote
Chris Mullins
Hi No, you cannot swap files with NVDA remote but there is a way of passing the contents of small text files to/from a remotely connected computer via the push clipboard feature of the Remote add-on.
Cheers Chris
From: A.Mac via groups.io
Sent: 30 October 2020 07:28 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Remote
in n v d a remote can you swapp files?
On 29/10/2020 16:29, Sky Mundell wrote:
-- Thanks for your time in advance. 😎 Later A.Mac [all out going mail is scanned by Avira]
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Re: NVDA Remote
A.Mac
in n v d a remote can you swapp files?
On 29/10/2020 16:29, Sky Mundell wrote:
Hello Ryan. I have used NVDA Remote with a few clients of mine in the past and it works well for them and I. What I have the clients do is to go into the NVDA remote sub menu, and choose the connect option. Then, I have the clients choose allow this machine to be controled, which is the second radio button. Then you put in the hostname put in the hostname, which is -- Thanks for your time in advance. 😎 Later A.Mac [all out going mail is scanned by Avira]
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Re: NVDA integration in video games
This is indeed an interesting idea. From my tests, with NVDA's current OCR function, I was able to get NVDA to read texts in games like Sims 3, albeit not 100% reliable or accurate.
Imagine if NVDA is able to recognize in-game texts and interact with game controls in realtime...that would be a monumental step forward, though that would likely require the use of AI technology and a reasonably powerful computer. Even the new voice recognition feature in VoiceOver is limited to newer iPhones.
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Re: A web dialog that isn't automatically read by NVDA
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
Now this is weird. Since the new Edge is Chrome based, I thought I would try Edge on this web page. It works just as well as Firefox. Go figure! On 10/29/2020 7:35 PM, Brian Vogel
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This is a situation where all appearances are that it's on "the Chromium side" that the bug exists in that something that should be exposed to the screen reader in a standard way isn't being exposed. This is particularly indicated by the fact that Firefox, which uses an entirely different rendering engine, doesn't have the problem, and you know the webpage code has to be the same. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: A web dialog that isn't automatically read by NVDA
Quentin Christensen
Thanks Brian, In this instance, and without having seen the page myself, several things stand out to me: - Firstly, the problem is reproducible in Chrome but not Firefox. Such a scenario is almost always caused by either the page creator not following standards, or the browser (Chrome in this case) not interpreting them correctly - usually the former unless you can find consistent issues across multiple sites. - The issue is reproducible with both NVDA and Jaws. Again, indicating an issue with the page (or Brower), OR that NVDA and Jaws have independently done something wrong in how this particular web content is interpreted. The fact that Narrator can read it, indicates there might be other things we could try such as pulling information from the graphics card - which could be useful for working with an otherwise inaccessible program, although in the case of a specific page which isn't written correctly, it is likely better to approach the web page designer about the issue. It's often difficult with an isolated case to determine where the issue lies. In this case, I would hazard a guess that most probably the issue is in the individual page code. Next most likely is Chrome not doing something correctly, and third inline is BOTH NVDA and Jaws not interpreting something correctly. If it were something you could find examples of on numerous sites, I'd be inclined to lean towards a Chrome bug (or a poorly written standard which numerous developers have read one way and the Chrome developers have read a different way). It's definitely something which can be hard to pin down though, so it's always worth asking about. Quentin.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:35 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: This is a situation where all appearances are that it's on "the Chromium side" that the bug exists in that something that should be exposed to the screen reader in a standard way isn't being exposed. This is particularly indicated by the fact that Firefox, which uses an entirely different rendering engine, doesn't have the problem, and you know the webpage code has to be the same. --
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Re: A web dialog that isn't automatically read by NVDA
This is a situation where all appearances are that it's on "the Chromium side" that the bug exists in that something that should be exposed to the screen reader in a standard way isn't being exposed. This is particularly indicated by the fact that Firefox, which uses an entirely different rendering engine, doesn't have the problem, and you know the webpage code has to be the same.
Now, what I don't know is the best way to approach this. I have no idea how to file a bug report/trouble ticket or similar in such a way that all Chromium-base browsers would receive the fix. I believe most of them do use the updated Chromium core code as it gets released, but I'm not 100% certain of that. There are times when it may make sense to file a bug report with your screen reader's developers (NVDA, in this case) since there tends to be a far more consistent and open communication channel between the organizations that build and maintain screen readers and the various web browser development communities than any end user has any ability to tap. But I don't know if this is the case here. I am going to flag Quentin Christensen on this message to have him weigh in. This is a gray area as far as whose cage should be rattled initially by the user(s) having issues. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: CONNECTING A MANTIS DISPLAY
Quentin Christensen
I saw the follow up message after I'd posted mine - it didn't end up in the same "thread" so I missed it before I posted. I figured I wouldn't clutter things with another message on the heels of that :) In any case, I'm glad you got things working! Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 7:46 PM Richard Bartholomew <rlbart53@...> wrote:
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NVDA performance in remote or virtual environments
Adriani Botez
Dear all,
I thought I start a discussion here on the performance topic in remote or virtual environments. Since I don’t really have experience with this yet, but I am starting to work on such an environment, maybe some one can help with some useful hints.
For my job a smooth performance is very crucial. I wonder, which environment delivers the best NVDA performance?
In a virtual environment, is there a difference in performance when using different software to create a virtual machine? I.e. Hyper-V, VMWare, Virtual Box or Citrox itself? If yes, which is the VM software that delivers the best performance so far?
I hope someone can help with some knowledge here.
Thank you very much and best regards Adriani
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Re: A web dialog that isn't automatically read by NVDA
Gene
I tested it in Brave and the dialog wasn't read. I had to use object navigation, I believe with Browse Mode off, though thisw was a few hours ago and I'm not sure now.
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Gene
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From: Brian Vogel Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 4:32 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A web dialog that isn't automatically read by NVDA On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 02:29 PM, Devin Prater wrote: It looks like this is a Chrome issue.- Devin, the following is not meant to split-hairs, but to seek further clarification from you, as you can test this out quickly: Is it a Chrome issue, or a Chromium issue? This can be determined by testing the issue you're having with the page you referenced in new Edge, Brave, or any other Chromium-based browser. Even though the Chromium-based browsers have way more in common than they do as differences, there can be weird things that really are specific to a single one or common to all of them, depending on the root cause. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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