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locked Re: supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

 

thanks brian for yourr reply.
yes, i always use desktop keyboard and my acer laptop has 17 inch display.
i asked because i dont remember exactly.
but i am sure that people have many complaint about using hp laptops
with nvda which i read before, but dont remember exactly what the
problem they were.

On 10/31/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I have experienced zero brand-based differences, and only the very
occasional model-based difference, as far as screen readers, plural, go.

I can't count the number of different models of desktop and laptop computers
of every make and model I've dealt with and had JAWS and/or NVDA running on
them, none with any issue.

My only caution with regard to laptops, regardless of brand, is that if you
are accustomed to using desktop keyboard layout with your screen reader make
sure that the laptop you're considering has a number pad built-in on its
keyboard if you intend to use the built-in keyboard. Most 15-inch models
will, many 13-inch or smaller screen models won't. And if you're not used
to using laptop keyboard layout, there's a learning curve associated with
getting keystrokes you already know straight again, as some differ.
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locked Re: supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

 

but i searched in the internet and realized that xp is supported even
in third generation of intel processors.
i really dont need more.

On 10/31/20, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there: Are you looking for a new Dell Lap Top computer? I’m sure people
on this list uses them. I haven’t used one. I don’t know anymore about
this. If your dell computer breaks down. You have to get Dell parts and only
dell parts. That’s why I didn’t use them for that particular reason. You
can get one if you want. The choice is yours. Mind you, it wont be xp
anymore nor 7. It will be only windows ten. If you haven’t used 7 it’s not
what xp is. It’s a whole different animal. Not trying to scare you. That is
what it will be. It will take getting used to.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: October 31, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] supporting dell laptops for screen readers.



hello every one.

i wish to know about compatibility of dell laptops with screen reader

and keyboard users.

did any of you use dell laptops with any screen reader especially with nvda?

i wish to know in particular about dell latitude laptops.

i really appreciate you and God bless you all!



--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali











--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

 

I have experienced zero brand-based differences, and only the very occasional model-based difference, as far as screen readers, plural, go.

I can't count the number of different models of desktop and laptop computers of every make and model I've dealt with and had JAWS and/or NVDA running on them, none with any issue.

My only caution with regard to laptops, regardless of brand, is that if you are accustomed to using desktop keyboard layout with your screen reader make sure that the laptop you're considering has a number pad built-in on its keyboard if you intend to use the built-in keyboard.  Most 15-inch models will, many 13-inch or smaller screen models won't.  And if you're not used to using laptop keyboard layout, there's a learning curve associated with getting keystrokes you already know straight again, as some differ.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

Arlene
 

Hi there: Are you looking for a new Dell Lap Top computer?  I’m sure people on this list uses them.  I haven’t used one. I don’t know anymore about this. If your dell computer breaks down. You have to get Dell parts and only dell parts.  That’s why I didn’t use them for that particular reason.  You can get one if you want.  The choice is yours.  Mind you, it wont be xp anymore nor 7.  It will be only windows ten.  If you haven’t used 7 it’s not what xp is.  It’s a whole different animal. Not trying to scare you. That is what it will be.  It will take getting used to. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: October 31, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

 

hello every one.

i wish to know about compatibility of dell laptops with screen reader

and keyboard users.

did any of you use dell laptops with any screen reader especially with nvda?

i wish to know in particular about dell latitude laptops.

i really appreciate you and God bless you all!

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

 


locked supporting dell laptops for screen readers.

 

hello every one.
i wish to know about compatibility of dell laptops with screen reader
and keyboard users.
did any of you use dell laptops with any screen reader especially with nvda?
i wish to know in particular about dell latitude laptops.
i really appreciate you and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:13 PM, Don H wrote:
So is the quick folder key navagation addon for thunderbird now working with the latest 78 version of thunderbird?
-
There has been a new version of this available since the day of introduction of the latest Thunderbird.  Unfortunately, there does not exist something in Thunderbird that is akin to Add-On Updater in NVDA, that will detect if you are using an older, incompatible version of an extension.  If you have not done so, remove the existing extension, go to the Thunderbird extensions page, and get the latest one.

See this tutorial I wrote some years ago if necessary.  I cannot guarantee that my number of TABs count will necessarily be current, but you should have the screen reader announcing such that you know that you've landed where you need to if they aren't:

IMPORTANT:  For those using Thunderbird with a screen reader I strongly suggest installing the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension.  You will only need to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  This allows you to jump from folder in the folder tree using first letter navigation to move between them.  Without it, this does not always work.   You will only need to install this extension once for any instance of Thunderbird you might be using.  If you are using JAWS or NVDA, searching for this add on within Thunderbird is quite simple:

·         Activate the Tools Menu (ALT+T), add-ons option (followed by A) and tab 3 times, at which point you should be on the Extensions Pane.  If you happen to land on any other pane then use Down Arrow (or Up Arrow) until you hear Extensions.

·         Tab 2 times, which lands you in the search all add-ons edit box. 

·         Then type in Quick Folder Key Navigation, hit enter, and wait a few seconds for the search to complete. 

·         Tab 5 times more gain focus on the list of results.  Then hit Down Arrow to start navigating the list.  Quick Folder Key Navigation should be the first result.

·         Tab 2 times to land on the Install button then hit enter.

·         After the install completes you need to exit Thunderbird and start it up again for this extension to become active

 --------------------

At this point I am locking this topic, too, as it really has nothing to do with NVDA per se.  If additional discussion regarding Thunderbird issues in the absence of any changes to NVDA are needed, they need to occur on the Chat Subgroup.  There may be bugs that creep in with any update, but when that update is with a given piece of application software it's likely due to that application software, not NVDA itself.

 
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     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Don H
 

So is the quick folder key navagation addon for thunderbird now working with the latest 78 version of thunderbird?


On 10/31/2020 12:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

It's working fine for me too.



On 10/31/2020 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
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locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

enes sarıbaş
 

previously, I was unable to arrow through address or edit it, but I have figured out the solution.

On 10/31/2020 12:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what problem you are having.  When I use autocomplete, that is type something like a name in the field, I can down arrow through the available addresses and they are read. Also, the part of the address is read if I type and then do nothing, that I haven't typed is read when the field is populated with the address.  For example, if I type letters autocomplete reads @nytimes.com if I have punctuation set to speak the at sign and just nytimes.com if I have punctuation set not to speak.  I want to make sure just what you are discussing.

If I tab once, after using autocomplete and an address is selected, the use left arrow suggestion is given.  I have moved from the autocomplete area to the actual address field.  I don't know what accounts for your problem.  I'm using the latest version, 78.4.0.  I'm using the portable version but I'm very doubtful that matters.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird latest 78 bug

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to
field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather
significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions
spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.









locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Gene
 

I'm not sure what problem you are having. When I use autocomplete, that is type something like a name in the field, I can down arrow through the available addresses and they are read. Also, the part of the address is read if I type and then do nothing, that I haven't typed is read when the field is populated with the address. For example, if I type letters autocomplete reads @nytimes.com if I have punctuation set to speak the at sign and just nytimes.com if I have punctuation set not to speak. I want to make sure just what you are discussing.

If I tab once, after using autocomplete and an address is selected, the use left arrow suggestion is given. I have moved from the autocomplete area to the actual address field. I don't know what accounts for your problem. I'm using the latest version, 78.4.0. I'm using the portable version but I'm very doubtful that matters.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: enes sarıbaş
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird latest 78 bug

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird, when an address is autocompleted into to
field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather
significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions
spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Brian,

The following is a workaround.

Go to the editable field, and you will be able to read it with ctrl left and right arrows, press enter to be able to edit it.

On 10/31/2020 12:03 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
As a general approach, when I hear people saying, "I'm not having a problem," while I am:

1. I do a repair install, if such is available, or download the latest installer and do an install-over install.  This will often correct a problem induced by a "burp" during a software update.

2. If Step 1 does not work, then an uninstall of the offending software, a system restart, then a reinstall using the latest installer, which I download before starting the process.  In many cases, and Thunderbird is one of those, uninstalling does not remove user settings unless you specify it do so.  So after a reinstall your accounts, etc., are still there.

--

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It's working fine for me too.



On 10/31/2020 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

 

As a general approach, when I hear people saying, "I'm not having a problem," while I am:

1. I do a repair install, if such is available, or download the latest installer and do an install-over install.  This will often correct a problem induced by a "burp" during a software update.

2. If Step 1 does not work, then an uninstall of the offending software, a system restart, then a reinstall using the latest installer, which I download before starting the process.  In many cases, and Thunderbird is one of those, uninstalling does not remove user settings unless you specify it do so.  So after a reinstall your accounts, etc., are still there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Chris Smart
 

Yep, no problems here either.



On 2020-10-31 12:34 p.m., Dan Beaver wrote:

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Dan Beaver
 

Hmmm,  it works fine for me here.


Dan Beaver

On 10/31/2020 12:01 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

 

I thought someone had proposed the one she'd used.  But, you could ask.  Someone's got one, even if it's a workaround.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

enes sarıbaş
 

Hello,

In that topic, the sender did not descirbe the solution they found.

On 10/31/2020 11:14 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
See topic, Thunderbird Help Needed, on the TechTalk Group.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

 

See topic, Thunderbird Help Needed, on the TechTalk Group.
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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: thunderbird latest 78 bug

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think I have that issue , but i just up and down arrow to find the one tone as the list will rap.

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On 31 Oct 2020, at 9:01, enes sarıbaş wrote:

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


locked thunderbird latest 78 bug

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi all,

When using latest thunderbird,  when an address is autocompleted into to field, there is no way to have it announced. This is a rather significant problem. Has anyone found a solution? The instructions spoken say to use arrow keys, but those do not work.


locked Re: firefox autoplay exceptions accessibility issue

 

Enes,

         You're welcome.

         I'm also going to lock this topic at this point.  I went "down the rabbit hole" of discussing how to use Firefox with it's tweaked settings, which really has nothing to do with NVDA proper.  If something else happens to come up with regard to Firefox itself, please start a new topic on the Chat Subgroup.

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