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Re: Jamulus Software

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hi all.

Well, is a problem: The program use the driver Assio for delete the latency. But… The sound car now is only for the program, and other programs are muted.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual, con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology.

Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Certified expert in NVDA

 

De: Paul O'Rahilly
Enviado: lunes, 9 de noviembre de 2020 7:46
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] Jamulus Software

 

Hi

 

Has anyone tried to use jamulus software with NVDA or JAWS screenreader ?

 

Jamulus is a low latency  software application enabling participants

to play music, jam, together.

 

My experience is that when I run jamulus, my screenreader becomes silent

 

Thanks, Paul

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA OCR with adobe image file

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hi all.

What happen in the file when you open the PDF with a browser? Firefox, Chrome, Edge and others browsers based in Chromium (Brabe, Opera, etc.) read PDF files, and in Some cases let that NVDA detect the graphics, and you can use the OCR pressing f11 for complete screen before of NVDA+r.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Músico (pianista) y ayuda a usuarios ciegos y con discapacidad visual, con el uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.

Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

 

Musician (pianist) and also help to the blind people with the use of screen readers and technology.

Certified expert in the screen reader NVDA.

Certified expert in NVDA

 

De: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Enviado: lunes, 9 de noviembre de 2020 4:23
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA OCR with adobe image file

 

Quentin,

 

Thanks for esponding!

 

As soon as I opened the file, I received no response from within the file. I pressed down-arrow and then up-arrow and I got the message Empty document as you suggested. I then pressed NVDA + r and got the following response:  

This document appears to be empty. It may be a scanned image that needs OCR or it may be a malformed document

 

The Result line shows no data at all.

 

Would it be possible to share this file with you and see what you observe about it? The content is Irish so I dont expect you to validate the text but, at least, you might be able to determine why the OCR is not happening.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 3:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA OCR with adobe image file

 

Try pressing NVDA+r when you first open the file and get the message about it being blank.

 

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:09 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a scanned image in an Adobe .pdf file. I want to run NVDAs OCR over it. When I open the document in adobe Acrobat DC I get a message  that this is a blank document. I press F6 twice and press enter on the home button. Then I press NVDA+R and I hear recognising and below that result document but there is no text showing.

 

I know that this document is an image of scanned text because I can convert it using Abbyy Finereader.

 

All advice and instructions welcome!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: table navigation issues

Sarah k Alawami
 

This might we web dev errors, but try the fs airlines site. You do need to be logoged in to see any of the tables but trust me, you cannot use your table keys.

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On 9 Nov 2020, at 0:55, Gene wrote:

I would think this isn't related to your project, but I see instances where things look like tables to sighted readers but are not, so a screen-reader can't read them in any sort of logical manner. How often this happens, I don't know and it may be to an extent the sites I happen to look at a good deal but it is nonetheless an accessibility issue to present something that looks like a table and isn't

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sean Murphy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 2:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] table navigation issues

All,

I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.


Jamulus Software

Paul O'Rahilly
 

Hi

Has anyone tried to use jamulus software with NVDA or JAWS screenreader ?

Jamulus is a low latency software application enabling participants
to play music, jam, together.

My experience is that when I run jamulus, my screenreader becomes silent

Thanks, Paul


Re: latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.2.nvda-addon


Best regards,


Customer support

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 12:06 de 09/11/2020, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

 

Can someone send me the latest driver for vocalizer expressive?

 

Thanks much,

 

Afik.

 


latest version of vocalizer expressive driver for NVDA

Afik Souffir
 

 

Hi,

 

Can someone send me the latest driver for vocalizer expressive?

 

Thanks much,

 

Afik.

 


Re: table navigation issues

Gerry
 

I get a similar problem on a banking site. I use latest MS Edge and when I use T for table and then try to navigate the table using Cntrl+Alt plus cursor arrows, nvda says, not in a table cell. I then have to navigate along the rows rather than up and down the rows. It is annoying, but I can still get what I want.

Gerry

On 09/11/2020 10:42, Sean Randall wrote:
This works fine for me in Chrome and Firefox.
My only annoyance is that t for table puts me on the caption, so I cannot immediately use CTRL+alt+cursors to navigate by row or column.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: 09 November 2020 10:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation issues

Hi,

not sure it is what you're looking for, but anyway, using firefox, tables in microsoft docs can't be browsed using table navigation, e.g.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.http.httpclient?view=netcore-3.1
for constructors properties, members, events, etc.
It did work properly on at least one other browser - i think it was internet explorer.

-- Patrick
Le 09/11/2020 à 09:25, Sean Murphy a écrit :
All,

I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web
tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting
good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with
tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.




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Re: table navigation issues

Gene
 

It works properly here using Firefox. I had the same experience of t placing me on the title.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Randall
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 4:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation issues

This works fine for me in Chrome and Firefox.
My only annoyance is that t for table puts me on the caption, so I cannot immediately use CTRL+alt+cursors to navigate by row or column.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: 09 November 2020 10:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation issues

Hi,

not sure it is what you're looking for, but anyway, using firefox, tables in microsoft docs can't be browsed using table navigation, e.g.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.http.httpclient?view=netcore-3.1
for constructors properties, members, events, etc.
It did work properly on at least one other browser - i think it was internet explorer.

-- Patrick
Le 09/11/2020 à 09:25, Sean Murphy a écrit :
All,

I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web
tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting
good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with
tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.





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Re: table navigation issues

Sean Randall
 

This works fine for me in Chrome and Firefox.
My only annoyance is that t for table puts me on the caption, so I cannot immediately use CTRL+alt+cursors to navigate by row or column.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Le Baudour
Sent: 09 November 2020 10:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] table navigation issues

Hi,

not sure it is what you're looking for, but anyway, using firefox, tables in microsoft docs can't be browsed using table navigation, e.g.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.http.httpclient?view=netcore-3.1
for constructors properties, members, events, etc.
It did work properly on at least one other browser - i think it was internet explorer.

-- Patrick
Le 09/11/2020 à 09:25, Sean Murphy a écrit :
All,

I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web
tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting
good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with
tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.





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Re: table navigation issues

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

not sure it is what you're looking for, but anyway, using firefox,
tables in microsoft docs can't be browsed using table navigation, e.g.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.net.http.httpclient?view=netcore-3.1
for constructors properties, members, events, etc.
It did work properly on at least one other browser - i think it was internet explorer.

-- Patrick

Le 09/11/2020 à 09:25, Sean Murphy a écrit :
All,
I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.


Adobe Reader and NVDA

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello all in group,

I have a problem with an Adobereader.

If I open a pdf file, Nvda says Avpage view.

What I may do, for reading a text?


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Re: NVDA OCR with adobe image file

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

Thanks for esponding!

 

As soon as I opened the file, I received no response from within the file. I pressed down-arrow and then up-arrow and I got the message Empty document as you suggested. I then pressed NVDA + r and got the following response:  

This document appears to be empty. It may be a scanned image that needs OCR or it may be a malformed document

 

The Result line shows no data at all.

 

Would it be possible to share this file with you and see what you observe about it? The content is Irish so I dont expect you to validate the text but, at least, you might be able to determine why the OCR is not happening.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 3:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA OCR with adobe image file

 

Try pressing NVDA+r when you first open the file and get the message about it being blank.

 

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:09 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a scanned image in an Adobe .pdf file. I want to run NVDAs OCR over it. When I open the document in adobe Acrobat DC I get a message  that this is a blank document. I press F6 twice and press enter on the home button. Then I press NVDA+R and I hear recognising and below that result document but there is no text showing.

 

I know that this document is an image of scanned text because I can convert it using Abbyy Finereader.

 

All advice and instructions welcome!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


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Re: table navigation issues

Gene
 

I would think this isn't related to your project, but I see instances where things look like tables to sighted readers but are not, so a screen-reader can't read them in any sort of logical manner. How often this happens, I don't know and it may be to an extent the sites I happen to look at a good deal but it is nonetheless an accessibility issue to present something that looks like a table and isn't

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Murphy
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2020 2:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] table navigation issues



All,



I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.


locked Re: wanted nvda for my windows 7 home basic

Sean Randall
 

Hi Quentin,

Thanks for that. The page is perhaps slightly misleading in that the current support mentions 7 SP1, but the old version text  refers to Xp and below, missing  the  initial release of 7, but I of course acknowledge it’s a very small point.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 09 November 2020 03:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] wanted nvda for my windows 7 home basic

 

While everyone is correct that the latest NVDA 2020.3 works fine on Windows 7, that is Windows 7 with Service Pack 1 (SP1) installed.

 

If you happen to have just reformatted with your original Windows 7 media and haven't yet gone through the myriad of updates required before you get to SP1, then you will need NVDA 2017.3.  There is a link to that on the download page as well: https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2017.3/nvda_2017.3.exe

 

Kind regards


Quentin.

 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:29 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Standard NVDA will work fine for this. Get it at
https://www.nvaccess.org/download

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020, sazid shaik wrote:

> can anyone kindly share me nvda for my windows 7 home basic.  As I had formated my laptop hence it is little bit urgent please share as early as possible.
>





 

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Re: NVDA HOW TO SET THE STATUS LINE IN OUTLOOK

Sean Randall
 

Hi Christo

You don’t mention what version of Outlook you’re using. In my Office 2019 at work, I can press f6 from my inbox to get to the status bar then, shift+f10 to right-clic it and choose the items I want.

 

Does that work to any degree, or perhaps someone will have a better solution. 😊

S.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo Vorster
Sent: 09 November 2020 06:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA HOW TO SET THE STATUS LINE IN OUTLOOK

 

Good morning group

 

I changed my email address recently. Before I made the change my status line read the number of unread messages.

 

After the change to the new address, when I read the status line it only tells me that I am in Outlook, but no mention of the number of messages, whether read or un read.

 

How can I change it so that I can hear the read and unread information?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

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table navigation issues

Sean Murphy
 

All,

 

I am seeking for examples where NVDA does not correctly navigate web tables. This is a project I am involved in at work. We are collecting good and bad examples of tables. So if you have any web pages with tables that NVDA does not work with. Please share.


Re: How to spell out Roman numerals

Luke Davis
 

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020, Brian Vogel wrote:

I'd have to say that I disagree with you about regular expressions not being confusing, and particularly to those who don't have a programming background
Okay, I was probably too cavalier in saying that.
They can be confusing, especially in the more advanced concepts.
I have been using them for nearly 25 years, and I still have to refresh myself on certain details from time to time.
But the basics of what they are doing does not have to be confusing. You can learn to pick them apart and understand more about what's going on then just seeing a pile of weird parentheticals and punctuations. You may not always understand the depths of some esoteric construction, but i believe the basics can be learned without a programming background, at least enough to use them for solving moderate problems.

Getting mad ninja skills with them takes years of familiarity, as does anything, even spoken languages.

with regular expressions is clearly fresher and better than mine is.As you know from my private e-mail to you, while I can figure out how one can capture
I don't know about that, but it may be more twisty. I started with writing and debugging expressions used in the very old days to fight email spam, before the big companies took over that business. Some of those expressions could be mind blowing, hair pulling, and thousands of characters long. I was very much thrown in the deep end and had to learn to swim or else.

the Roman numerals one through four, or five through eight, with a single "compact" regular expression pattern match I have no idea how one would then have
that match parsed out for replacement as individual letters.  If you want the individual letters, things get much more messy.
As far as I can tell, it can't be done except as we've done it. There is no cleaner way. Though I'd love to learn of one.

soon as Janet had noted that her needed range was the Roman numerals one through ten, I took the easy way out, and a way that I felt was "more
I never saw that, not having received her messages.

understandable" to the person who was going to used it.I only wish I could figure out a way to handle Roman numeral one reliably sans a delimiting colon.  I
can find no way to do that which doesn't require linguistic analysis rather than pattern matching.  The pronoun I is just so common which makes it a
nightmare.  You can pretty much count on a capital I followed by a verb being the pronoun, not a Roman numeral, but there is no way I know of to express
that in a regex.
Agreed. I suspect machine learning and neural nets would be the class of solutions preferred for that one.

It does beg the question though: why in the world are we still using Roman Numerals? We don't have to carve straight lines into rock in order to record our numbers any more, for Jupiter's sake. But that's a question for another day, and another list.

Luke


Re: How to spell out Roman numerals

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020, Brian Vogel wrote:

[Regarding my question about the use of \s?]
My thinking it that there can be no whitespace after the colon, or an instance of a single whitespace character, but not multiple whitespace characters. 
Definitely not the same as .* at all.
Are you sure? Just using egrep -e on my local machine, all of the following expressions will match the string "test":

.*st
te.*
\s?st
te\s?

I agree that one could probably use \b, but I was thinking "whitespace" and used whitespace matching.
I understand why whitespace might be interesting there. But searching for it as optional, without an anchor or pre/post text, is the same as not searching for it at all.

It is an old truism in regex building, that if your match potentially includes zero of something at the start or end of an expression, it may as well not be there unless there is an anchor.

For example, my tests above, rewritten as:

^\s?st
te\s?$

would fail as they should. But the naked zero space matches in the originals function exactly as a full wildcard (.*).

Luke


NVDA HOW TO SET THE STATUS LINE IN OUTLOOK

Christo Vorster
 

Good morning group

 

I changed my email address recently. Before I made the change my status line read the number of unread messages.

 

After the change to the new address, when I read the status line it only tells me that I am in Outlook, but no mention of the number of messages, whether read or un read.

 

How can I change it so that I can hear the read and unread information?

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)


locked Re: wanted nvda for my windows 7 home basic

Quentin Christensen
 

While everyone is correct that the latest NVDA 2020.3 works fine on Windows 7, that is Windows 7 with Service Pack 1 (SP1) installed.

If you happen to have just reformatted with your original Windows 7 media and haven't yet gone through the myriad of updates required before you get to SP1, then you will need NVDA 2017.3.  There is a link to that on the download page as well: https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2017.3/nvda_2017.3.exe

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 5:29 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Standard NVDA will work fine for this. Get it at
https://www.nvaccess.org/download

On Sun, 8 Nov 2020, sazid shaik wrote:

> can anyone kindly share me nvda for my windows 7 home basic.  As I had formated my laptop hence it is little bit urgent please share as early as possible.
>







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