From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 13 November 2020 17:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Screen Capture with NVDA

 

 

 

 

----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail



Using Firefox I do not see the button/link at all. Even if I do a screen search it doesn't come up with a hit.




I used to have basic mode as my default before I did this clean up activity but now it always comes up in standard mode. I thought there was a choice in settings for making it always basic mode but I have searched through settings and can't find that either.




When I did a google search I found a page that talks about it but only gives 2 links, one for using standard mode and the other for using basic mode. It doesn't save this change at all, you have to use them every time if you go to that page.




This is getting super frustrating.




Thanks.




Dan Beaver


On 11/13/2020 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience, however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail
This is getting super frustrating.





Thanks.




Dan Beaver


Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com wrote:
I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

Hello,
I just tested with NVDA and another screen reader.
I had a document with two occurrences of the same word.
Pressing f3 brings me to the second occurrence. But it does not indicate that I changed the place in the document. So to be sure, I press escape after the result is displayed.
With the other screen reader the line where the word is located is displayed, so it is easier to understand that you reached another result.
Pressing escape is also helpful.
Otherwise, have you tried the NVDA search function : nvda+ctrl+F, then NVDA+F3 to search for the next occurrence ? It seems to work here.
But I still have to press escape at the end.
Sylvie
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gene via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2020 16:02
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

No, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. Its probably a Notepad problem since that is a Notepad command. You can check this by testing with another screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William

-----Message d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gene via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2020 16:02
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

No, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. Its probably a Notepad problem since that is a Notepad command. You can check this by testing with another screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William

On 11/13/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

It is at the very top of the page, the first line. At least that's where I

see a button that says Basic HTML View using Chrome. My experience,
however, is that this button doesn't work reliably to change the view when
you open the web page again. If I switch to standard view, I have to press

the button every time I open the web page. I don't know if others have that

experience and I think I've seen instances where that isn't necessary, but
you may find it so, based on my experience.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode
but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 8:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble switching to basic mode in Gmail

Once I had that problem and I found the button to switch by pressing
tab+space bar and then tab or shift+tab to find the button to switch
back to basic html.

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@gmail.com
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

-----Original Message-----
From: William Wong
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 7:24 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Notepad ++ search

I am running the latest stable version 7.9.1

1. I use ctrl f to search for something, and I know that that part of
text exist more than one time in that document.

2. then I press F3 to jump to next result

3. NVDA said no more search result in this direction, but actually the
focus has already jump to the new line that matches the search keyword

4. I try pressing ctrl home and start from the very begining, pressing
F3 do also speak no more search ....

I jump to end by ctrl End, then I press F3, NVDA just say the same, no
more search..... but did not have the sound that indicate no next search

result.


Do anyone has any idea about how to fix this?


Thanks,

William

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails. Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so. How do we do this using NVDA? There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

On 11/13/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:

I switched to standard mode so I could try to delete thousands of old
emails.  Once I was done with that I tried to switch back to basic mode but
couldn't find the place to do so.  How do we do this using NVDA?  There
doesn't seem to be anything that NVDA can see to do this.


Thanks.



--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

From: CARLOS-ESTEBAN
Sent: 12 November 2020 16:19 20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Alternate Voices

 

On 11/8/20, Raymond Brough <rjbrough54@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Folks

Approximately 2 months ago I commenced using NVDA, currently version
2020.3.
Within a couple of weeks of this I subscribed to this group and this is my
first post.

I am in the midst of having the software on my desktop and laptop computers
upgraded / changed and, to spread the learning curve and disruption, have
opted to carry this out in 2 phases.

Firstly, I upgraded to Windows-10, Firefox and Google chrome, and changed
to
using NVDA. Previously I was using Windows-7, Internet Explorer 11 and
JAWS.

Secondly, and imminent, I will be upgrading to Microsoft 365 from Microsoft
Office 2003. Prior to doing so, there are several tasks I would like to
complete. Unsurprisingly, bearing in mind the age of Microsoft Office
2003,
I am experiencing some difficulties but finding work arounds for or
tolerating the vast majority of them. However, their is one which is
proving extremely frustrating in respect of Outlook 2003!

When reading back and forth through an HTML or Plain Text e-mail thread
using the 4 arrow keys, when I read some e-mail addresses in the second
most
recent message in the thread, or messages prior to this, NVDA often stops
speaking and my computer freezes. It appears the only way to get out of
this is to relaunch NVDA:
Windows Key+r nvda Enter.

After relaunching NVDA, when I alt+tab, all of the applications / messages
/
files etc. I was working with / on are still open. However, when the
message causing the problem is highlighted I have to quickly tap the End
Key
or Ctrl+Home to take the cursor away from the e-mail address causing the
problem, otherwise, failure to do this quickly enough will result in a
reoccurrence of NVDA being silenced and the computer freezing.

When I invoke continuous read,
NVDA Key+Down Arrow
the e-mail thread is read back without a problem!

The problem occasionally occurs when using Microsoft Office Word 2003.
When
reading some, not all, e-mail addresses in a file.

If there is a solution to the problem I would be pleased to read about it.
However, I suspect I may be advised / told to upgrade to Microsoft Office
365 slightly quicker than I planned.

I have searched for a solution in the NVDA manual and on the website, and
also carried out an internet search. It appears NVDA will support elements
of Microsoft Office from version 2010 to 365.

I look forward to your replies. In anticipation, many thanks.

Raymond Brough - slowly shedding his dinosaur clothes

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, 10 November 2020 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adobereader and Nvda

 

 

 

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