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Re: firefox preferences

JM Casey
 

Go to the list box, and select "home". There you will find settings for your home page.
Or just go to the search edit field and type in "homepage" and it should come up.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: November 14, 2020 04:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox preferences

OK but don't see there where to set your home page.

On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:
Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools
menu and arrow down to options and hit enter


From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox preferences

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Re: issues with web page

Hope Williamson
 

I'm able to arrow through the page in Firefox although when I click the
buttons for the menus they definitely aren't expanding. Also, it seems
like it's in application mode when I open it in Brave, so not a virtual
buffer-like situation, more of a desktop app-like thing.

On 11/14/2020 11:59 AM, Don H wrote:
I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below.  I
have tried it with both the latest version of Google Chrome and MS
edge on my Win 10 version 20h2 system with the latest version of
NVDA.  When I try to use the up and down arrows to review the page I
get nothing. Can someone please check it out to see if it works for
you?  The web page is
https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/external-drives/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd#WDBWLG0030HBK-NESN






Re: firefox preferences

Gene
 

Once yu are in options, turn off browse mode NVDA key space. If you don't, you can't see the list of categories.
Shift tab three times to the list. You can down arrow through the categories. Move to the one you want, then tab around to see what settings you can change. In this case, you want home. You may stay in forms mode or return to browse mode when you tab.
If you have questions about how to work with the interface for choices about home content, let us know.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 3:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox preferences

OK but don't see there where to set your home page.

On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:
Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter


From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox preferences

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Re: firefox preferences

Don H
 

OK but don't see there where to set your home page.

On 11/14/2020 3:04 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:
Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter
From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox preferences
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Re: firefox preferences

Chris
 

Hit the alt key to get to the menu bar then arrow along to the tools menu and arrow down to options and hit enter

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox preferences

 

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firefox preferences

Don H
 

Sorry for all the questions today. How do you get to the preferences in the latest version of firefox? It says to go to the tthree dots in the right hand corner but of course I can't get there.


Re: issues with web page

Chris
 

Probably because nvda is going into focus mode on that site for some reason

Have to manually switch back to browse mode to navigate the site

 

I dont know why this is but firefox works fine with it

Chrome just sucks I guess

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 November 2020 20:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] issues with web page

 

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Re: issues with web page

Gene
 

When you are on the page. start tabbing. You will get to an application. tab once or twice to get to links beyond the application. The application automaticaly places you in forms mode. Return to browse mode, NVDA key space. You can then move normally.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] issues with web page

I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below. I
have tried it with both the latest version of Google Chrome and MS edge
on my Win 10 version 20h2 system with the latest version of NVDA. When
I try to use the up and down arrows to review the page I get nothing.
Can someone please check it out to see if it works for you? The web
page is
https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/external-drives/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd#WDBWLG0030HBK-NESN


issues with web page

Don H
 

I am trying to shop on the western digital web site listed below. I have tried it with both the latest version of Google Chrome and MS edge on my Win 10 version 20h2 system with the latest version of NVDA. When I try to use the up and down arrows to review the page I get nothing. Can someone please check it out to see if it works for you? The web page is
https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/external-drives/wd-elements-desktop-usb-3-0-hdd#WDBWLG0030HBK-NESN


Using Google Voice Webpage with NVDA

 

First, if you are not already a Google Voice user and have a Google Voice phone number, feel free to mute this topic almost immediately.  What I am about to ask is not about how to use Google Voice, per se, because I do so all the time, but about getting NVDA to "play nice," if possible, with the page for one's Google Voice calling/texting/voicemail as well as the two tabs for archiving and reporting spam.

If I go through the page with NVDA active, via point and click, when I land on the control for "Call" it says, "Call tab selected,"  Note, this is not a browser tab, nor is it presented in the way that tabs are conventionally presented.  I have yet to find a way to do a quick navigation to any of them, though brute force tabbing (or shift+tabbing) always ends up with these controls as part of the traversal.

I also have not figured out, exactly, when it is that NVDA is going to handle the C keyboard shortcut for looking for a combo box versus passing it to Google Voice as a shortcut for "make a call," which it is when Google Voice has control.  Depending on where I have focus on the screen, it sometimes acts as a quick navigation shortcut and others as a Google Voice keyboard shortcut.  And none of these times is when I'm in an edit box, which behaves as I'd expect.

If anyone has experience using Google Voice via the webpage with NVDA who can shed some light about accessing it with NVDA, would you please share?
--

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        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


Re: labeling graphics?

Sarah k Alawami
 

If there is no issue on github, maybe the OP can submit an issue on said platform for those of us to comment on.

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On 14 Nov 2020, at 10:50, Gene wrote:

NVDA doesn't have a graphics labeler. It also doesn't have a function like frames in JAWS. While these lacks don't affect a lot of users, they are real disadvantages for many would-be or current users.

I don't know why it doesn't have these functions, if there are technical reasons or others.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] labeling graphics?

Does NVDA have a way to label such graphics as 'read' and 'unread' in
email programs?

Thx


Re: labeling graphics?

Gene
 

NVDA doesn't have a graphics labeler. It also doesn't have a function like frames in JAWS. While these lacks don't affect a lot of users, they are real disadvantages for many would-be or current users.

I don't know why it doesn't have these functions, if there are technical reasons or others.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] labeling graphics?

Does NVDA have a way to label such graphics as 'read' and 'unread' in
email programs?

Thx


labeling graphics?

Ann Byrne
 

Does NVDA have a way to label such graphics as 'read' and 'unread' in email programs?

Thx


Re: status of check box and radio boxes

Jonathan COHN
 

Very hard to tell. If the checkboxes are native ones:
<input role="checkbox" name="myCheckbox">
And NVDA does not announce them then you have found a problem. Sometimes however the web developer has decided they don't like the styles provided by browsers for checkboxes, or they want some additional control in these cases you are likely to see something like:
<div role="checkbox" aria-checked="true" cclass="ckbx uncheck"></div>
Notice how this element has a role this is telling the screen reader hey you know that nondescriptive element div in this case treat it like a checkbox and then the aria-checked attribute in there lets the scree reader know if the checkbox is checked. However, Generally web developers use the "class" attribute to change appearance of elements, and if their Java script updates the class, but does not update the aria-checked you will get as you described, and there is nothing a screen reader can do about this since there are no standards on class and the picture that is changed when the class changes has no attributes and therefore no way to describe it.
Again, one can look at the attributes for this element in either the browsers developer tools, or using the NVDA F1 key sequence and looking at the last couple of lines shown. There should be an attributes line that lists the attributes the browser is providing to the screen reader like tag Name, role etc.

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On Nov 14, 2020, at 13:21, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I am having issues on some web pages where NVDA is not announcing the status of whether a check box is checked or unchecked. I have focus on the box and press the space bar to check it and visual help says it is checked yet NVDA still says unchecked. Any work around for such issues?






Re: status of check box and radio boxes

Gene
 

We can't answer your question, at least those of us who haven't seen the problem, without at least one web page where you have the problem. Please provide one or preferably two or three addresses to such pages.

Without being able to look at any of the pages, I'll suggest the following:
If you issue a command to check or uncheck a checkbox and there is no indicated change, turn off browse mode and use read current line to read the state of the check box. Then turn browse mode on again and continue what you were doing.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] status of check box and radio boxes

I am having issues on some web pages where NVDA is not announcing the
status of whether a check box is checked or unchecked. I have focus on
the box and press the space bar to check it and visual help says it is
checked yet NVDA still says unchecked. Any work around for such issues?


status of check box and radio boxes

Don H
 

I am having issues on some web pages where NVDA is not announcing the status of whether a check box is checked or unchecked. I have focus on the box and press the space bar to check it and visual help says it is checked yet NVDA still says unchecked. Any work around for such issues?


Re: Refresh screen?

 

Hi,
If I'm understanding this, there's really no command to refresh the screen
as in JAWS, although NVDA+F5 will refresh the browse mode document.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 7:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Refresh screen?

NVDA key escape. the command only works in browse mode.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refresh screen?

What is the keystroke to refresh the screen?


Cannot edit comments in Word with NVDA #advisory

Rowen Cary
 

 
I have a document with a number of comments.
When I move to the position containing the comment and press Application to select "Edit Comment", NVDA reports the "Toolbar".
At that time, I could not edit the comment, and press the arrow keys NVDA to not speak.
I got the same effect in Office365 and Office2019.
 
Do you know how to solve this problem?

Test document: 
https://update.viyf.org/mc/test.docx

Thanks


Re: Refresh screen?

Gene
 

NVDA key escape. the command only works in browse mode.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refresh screen?

What is the keystroke to refresh the screen?


Refresh screen?

Ann Byrne
 

What is the keystroke to refresh the screen?

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