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Re: Windows 10 calculatore

Lino Morales
 

Yeah Its not reading the numbers here. I'm running NVDA master branch.


On 9/4/2016 7:35 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi,

I tried installing a new copy of NVDA 2016.3 RC1, updated to 2016.3 RC2, in a new Windows 10 virtual machine, and tested the calculator app, and the keys were being read out just fine, both with and without the Windows 10 essentials add on.

Now I wonder why NVDA did not read the keys being pressed when I tried it on my Surface 3 earlier in the day...



Two sounds keep going off intermittently

marvin kotler
 

    Good morning list.  First, this is an acer desktop computer.  The two sounds are for open programs and close programs.  They are a bell and camera, respectively.  I thought a program was opening and closing, but a disability specialist from Microsoft said she saw no program opening or closing.  No other things are effected.  Any help on this issue would be appreciated; thanks in advance.
 


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

Chris Mullins
 

Yes it works very well with NVDA.  It has Standard, Scientific, Programmer and Date calculators plus a host of Converter interfaces.  There is a comprehensive list of shortcut key codes on the MS web site covering the functions you specified. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: 4 September 2016 15:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 calculatore

 

How well does it work with NVDA? Also does it support scientific calculations (logs, sin, cos, etc)?


css information in a html document

Adrián Mena
 

Hello everybody, I hope everything is fine.
I would like to know if there is a way in NVDA to Access all format
information in a html page.
This would be very useful when styling using css.
I will apreciate any help in this matter.
Thank you in advance.


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi,

Ah, that explains it (don’t have it installed yet).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 9:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 calculatore

 

Joseph,

        I forgot to add that the target folder for the Calculator Plus I refer to is C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Calculator Plus and the executable is CalcPlus.exe
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Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Joseph,

        I forgot to add that the target folder for the Calculator Plus I refer to is C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Calculator Plus and the executable is CalcPlus.exe
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Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi,

So we might be talking about two different beasts then (my apologies).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 calculatore

 

Jo.seph,

            I am not talking about the Calculator Plus that's available through the Store.  That's a thing of its own.

            The Calculator Plus that I linked to is an old Windows application that has been around since dirt and doesn't use the new universal interface.  If it's not accessible to NVDA, just based upon its appearance, that would be very odd.  It looks exactly like the calculator that I used from WinXP up through Windows 7.

            I just want to make certain that we're talking about the same Calculator Plus here.  This one has three separate views:  Standard, Scientific, and Conversion.  I stick to the Classic View without digit grouping (that is, there are no commas in the numbers to the left of the decimal point).
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         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Jo.seph,

            I am not talking about the Calculator Plus that's available through the Store.  That's a thing of its own.

            The Calculator Plus that I linked to is an old Windows application that has been around since dirt and doesn't use the new universal interface.  If it's not accessible to NVDA, just based upon its appearance, that would be very odd.  It looks exactly like the calculator that I used from WinXP up through Windows 7.

            I just want to make certain that we're talking about the same Calculator Plus here.  This one has three separate views:  Standard, Scientific, and Conversion.  I stick to the Classic View without digit grouping (that is, there are no commas in the numbers to the left of the decimal point).
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi,

Calculator+ is inaccessible with NVDA for two important reasons:

·         Same executable name as modern Calculator, which means it is difficult to write a separate app module for this one.

·         It is hard to find out the exact label for most buttons in there due to the way it exposes information to NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 7:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 calculatore

 

How well does it work with NVDA? Also does it support scientific calculations (logs, sin, cos, etc)?


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

How well does it work with NVDA? Also does it support scientific calculations (logs, sin, cos, etc)?


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

For anyone who doesn't happen to care for the Windows 10 Calculator App, there is also the option of going back to good, old-fashioned Calculator Plus that you've known and loved since the WinXP days.  That's what I did since it's still supported and I just like the way it behaves and looks much better than the new one.  There's no need to uninstall the Win10 Calculator App, either.

I ended up putting a shortcut to Calculator Plus on the Quick Launch bar for easy access.
--
Brian

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Re: fake clip

Rui Fontes
 

Change the file name to *.nvda-addon...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Marisane Moruthanyana
Data: 4 de setembro de 2016 07:29
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] fake clip



Morning guys



I hope you are well.



I am trying.



I recently heard of you talking about am addon called something like 'fake
clip'.



I visited the nvda addon page and I don't remember seeing it.



However, I visited Jeff's repository and found it.



The problem is that it comes as a zip file / folder with a few files within
it.



One can't easily identify which file to install.



Would you please help me with the process of installing the addon?



Your help is appreciated in advance.



With respect

Marisane


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi,

I tried installing a new copy of NVDA 2016.3 RC1, updated to 2016.3 RC2, in a new Windows 10 virtual machine, and tested the calculator app, and the keys were being read out just fine, both with and without the Windows 10 essentials add on.

Now I wonder why NVDA did not read the keys being pressed when I tried it on my Surface 3 earlier in the day...


Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


It is not an empty folder, I select a file first and then it happens when deleting the file using the delete key.


Dan Beaver


On 9/4/2016 5:27 AM, Chris wrote:

The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least

 

 

 

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 04 September 2016 00:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

 

Odd, do you ever use file explorer for other things (press Windows+e) and have you noticed any other issues?

Also which version of Windows are you running?  I'm using Rhett latest fast insider bold of Windows 10. I haven't specifically looked lately, but I know I've had various Windows, mostly settings Windows, which either don't respond or close unexpectedly in various builds. I wonder if this is something similar?

Regards

Quentin

 

On 4 Sep 2016 07:12, "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Hi Quinton,

 

Actually, I am talking about the downloads folder in the "this pc".  I don't have any trouble with my browser which is also the latest update to Firefox.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 9/2/2016 10:05 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

By downloads folder, do you mean the "This PC - Downloads" folder in File Explorer, or the downloads folder in your browser?

 

If that latter, which browser are you using?

 

I'm using the latest version of Windows 10 insider build (actually correction - 14905.1000 - the latest fast build has downloaded and wants to restart my machine), NVDA 2016.3rs2 and Firefox 48.0.2 - I can't reproduce your bug at the moment, but I'll try again once windows restarts.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Has anyone else seen this?  this just started happening recently but I do not know if it is NVDA or Windows 10 doing it.


Literally, I select a file in the downloads folder and then press the delete key.  It does delete the file but it also closes the folder.  What a pain!


I am running windows 10 most recent updates and NVDA 2016.3-RC2.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





 

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System points and systemrestor in windows 10

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This is now enabled in windows 10 as it used to be in 7, but it seems not to be working for me.
It used to make a system point when a program was about to install or uninstall, at windows updates and with some cleaners like cclean and registry checkers, but now the only way it seems to be working is manually.
Am I missing something in the dialogues due to nvda not reading it? I've tried navigation modes with no success.Could it be that now it needs a name, the other operationsdo not supply one but they should surely have the date as default.
anyone?
I don't want to rely on backup and restore again, that seems to fail with amazing regularity, and why does defender keep on asking to scan.
Weird.
I'd also like to get rid of all those helpful, not messages like try office now or whatever that seem to infest windows 10 all the time.
Brian

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Re: two sounds keep going off intermittently

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes strangely, are these extremely short sounds compared to others.
Some laptop sound systems seem to go to sleep a little too long and miss the. I've noticed this also by playing some of the windows sounds through, say Winamp.
Some of the longer ones play fine, but the little clicks and stuff you do not hear them at all. If however I load the sound into a sound editor and add a short start and tail of silence to the file then resave it, it play fine.
its not a new problem, I've noticed it as far back as xp on some sound hardware.
Brian

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From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] two sounds keep going off intermittently


Hi,
processes come and go, and I guess that triggers those sounds. Reasons
might include scheduled updates or running apps utilizing helper processes.
Do the sounds coincide with any windows opening or closing on your system,
or do they appear completely at random?
Kind regards,
Felix

marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um
01:09 Uhr:

Good afternoon list; Marv here. I got a new computer; acer desktop
running windows ten and nvda 16.2. I have a minor issue; I hope. This is
the home edition. I put in two sounds; one for open program and another
for close program. A Microsoft disability specialist worked on this thing
for approximately two hours without resolution. These are the only sounds
that are effected by this intermittent problem. If anyone has any ideas on
what I could try, I would like to hear them. Thanks in advance.


Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I've been fiddling with this this morning on the Windows 10 machine, and it seems OK to me. I have found that there is still a tendency to lag in these folders making it sometimes possible to delete the incorrect file, but the folder stayed OPen for me.
This is both on next and the latest rc2.
I'm still getting the odd crash of explorer though which locks up nvda with core frozen in stack, sometimes for some minutes.
This also can occur on windows 7 though, and I suspect its a problem in windows itself.
One odd thing I do notice about deleting files on 10 is that it never asks if yyou want to delete multiple items, which seems at odds with the general nany tendency of the rest of the operating system. I suppose its easy enough to undo your last action now, but if you are not carefull you can get confused.


Brian

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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window


The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least




From: Quentin Christensen


Re: two sounds keep going off intermittently

Felix G.
 

Hi,
processes come and go, and I guess that triggers those sounds. Reasons might include scheduled updates or running apps utilizing helper processes.
Do the sounds coincide with any windows opening or closing on your system, or do they appear completely at random?
Kind regards,
Felix

marvin kotler <m.kotler53@...> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um 01:09 Uhr:

    Good afternoon list; Marv here.  I got a new computer; acer desktop running windows ten and nvda 16.2.  I have a minor issue; I hope.  This is the home edition.  I put in two sounds; one for open program and another for close program.  A Microsoft disability specialist worked on this thing for approximately two hours without resolution.  These are the only sounds that are effected by this intermittent problem.  If anyone has any ideas on what I could try, I would like to hear them.  Thanks in advance.


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Haven't try that, maybe I'll try it some point.


Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Chris
 

The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least

 

 

 

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 04 September 2016 00:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

 

Odd, do you ever use file explorer for other things (press Windows+e) and have you noticed any other issues?

Also which version of Windows are you running?  I'm using Rhett latest fast insider bold of Windows 10. I haven't specifically looked lately, but I know I've had various Windows, mostly settings Windows, which either don't respond or close unexpectedly in various builds. I wonder if this is something similar?

Regards

Quentin

 

On 4 Sep 2016 07:12, "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Hi Quinton,

 

Actually, I am talking about the downloads folder in the "this pc".  I don't have any trouble with my browser which is also the latest update to Firefox.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 9/2/2016 10:05 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

By downloads folder, do you mean the "This PC - Downloads" folder in File Explorer, or the downloads folder in your browser?

 

If that latter, which browser are you using?

 

I'm using the latest version of Windows 10 insider build (actually correction - 14905.1000 - the latest fast build has downloaded and wants to restart my machine), NVDA 2016.3rs2 and Firefox 48.0.2 - I can't reproduce your bug at the moment, but I'll try again once windows restarts.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Has anyone else seen this?  this just started happening recently but I do not know if it is NVDA or Windows 10 doing it.


Literally, I select a file in the downloads folder and then press the delete key.  It does delete the file but it also closes the folder.  What a pain!


I am running windows 10 most recent updates and NVDA 2016.3-RC2.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





 

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