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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Kerryn Gunness
NVDA is for windows only
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nothing else
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From: "Shaun Oliver" <blindman75@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it? indeed it does not. I am unsure why or how you had reached the conclusion that it might, but NVDA is written for a different platform entirely and I do not believe it can be cross compiled.
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Arlene
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Sent: November 25, 2020 10:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
NVDA isn't for Android phones. It only works on Windows devices.
On 11/25/2020 1:21 PM, Hettie wrote:
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Shaun Oliver
indeed it does not. I am unsure why or how you had reached the conclusion that it might, but NVDA is written for a different platform entirely and I do not believe it can be cross compiled.
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On 26/11/2020 4:52 am, Chris Smart rambled on about the following:
Um, it doesn't!
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Hettie
Thanks for all the replies. I was hoping it did, but that's okay.
Hettie
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
NVDA isn't for Android phones. It only works on Windows devices.
On 11/25/2020 1:21 PM, Hettie wrote:
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
NVDA is a Windows platform only piece of software. There is no Android port available at this time.
Android Accessibility Suite, which includes the TalkBack screen reader, is the de facto standard on the Android platform. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind. ~ Thomas Reed Powell
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Re: How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Um, it doesn't!
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On 2020-11-25 1:21 p.m., Hettie wrote:
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How well does NVDA work on android phones and how do I install it?
Hettie
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Re: Unable to start up nvda
An uninstall, system restart, and reinstall, choosing the option to create a desktop shortcut/keyboard shortcut, is likely your best option.
This often cures a multitude of sins, and not just with NVDA. And it's easy to do as well. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind. ~ Thomas Reed Powell
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Re: Unable to start up nvda
Paul O'Rahilly
+ enter from the search box.
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Paul The short cut key appears to be set up correctly, to run the command "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\nvda_slave.exe" launchNVDA -r This command opens nvda from the run dialog box. I deleted and re entered the short cut in the short cut box. The only way I can open nvda now is to type nvda
On 11/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there, do you have the NVDA icon on your desk top? If you do, you go to
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Re: any progress on aria-live being read multiple times?
Samuel Kacer
So I've experimented around to try and find the simplest example and I've found that the bug occurs when the element with aria-live also has a tabindex. If it doesn't have a tabindex then it is read once, but with a tabindex it will be read twice. I think this bug is probably the same one that causes live information to be read twice when pressing the pause or mute button on youtube. Searching through NVDA's issues on github it seems this bug isn't recorded, so I will go ahead and do that later. tried on chrome, firefox, and edge. the bug occurs for chrome and edg, but not on firefox. however interestingly for firefox I get a completely different bug which I haven't been able to figure out what causes it. essentially there for my application, the live messages are completely garbled and out of order, but couldn't reproduce the bug with a simpler example...
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Re: any progress on aria-live being read multiple times?
Quentin Christensen
Is there an issue on GitHub?
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 5:05 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: I suspect you would have to take up the question with developers or those --
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Re: any progress on aria-live being read multiple times?
Gene
I suspect you would have to take up the question with developers or those who are knowledgeable about how live regions are handled. Have you tested with other screen-readers to see what happens? So far, we have no way of knowing if the live regions are implemented properly or if the problem is with N
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NVDA. You may need to send a sample page to whomever you are consulting with for evaluation. Gene
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From: Samuel Kacer Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 7:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] any progress on aria-live being read multiple times? Hello, I am just developing a web app that relies on aria live regions to implement advanced features. I can see that NVDA gets confused for chrome and edge, reading the live regions twice an for firefox it just seems to garble the text updates in live regions completely. For chrome and edge it is usable, but it does detract from the user experience. I just wanted to ask if anyone knows what progress there is on fixing this issue? Might this be fixed in the next NVDA version by any chance? just to provide more info, I am using NVDA 2020.3 Kind Regards, Sam
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any progress on aria-live being read multiple times?
Samuel Kacer
Hello, I am just developing a web app that relies on aria live regions to implement advanced features. I can see that NVDA gets confused for chrome and edge, reading the live regions twice an for firefox it just seems to garble the text updates in live regions completely. For chrome and edge it is usable, but it does detract from the user experience. I just wanted to ask if anyone knows what progress there is on fixing this issue? Might this be fixed in the next NVDA version by any chance? just to provide more info, I am using NVDA 2020.3 Kind Regards, Sam
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Re: NVDA OCR and what it presents afterward
Quentin Christensen
As an alternative to a commercial OCR like Abbyy FineReader, has anyone tried any of the free OCR programs around and if so can you report on their effectiveness? A quick Google search brings up a number of options, but I must admit, I haven't looked at any yet. Quentin.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 9:14 PM mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA OCR and what it presents afterward
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from mack Wally, you can always keep a non activated copy of jaws on your system and use their o c r function. you can use it for forty min. before you are asked to re-boot.
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Re: NVDA OCR and what it presents afterward
Quentin Christensen
Hi Wally, I'm afraid yes, NVDA is bound by the limitations of Windows OCR. If you do regularly need to run OCR on longer documents, it might be worth considering a full OCR program, which will be able to do fancier things as well. Also, NVDA's OCR abilities aside, if you are regularly receiving documents you need to run OCR on, it would be worth raising that with the people sending the documents out. When creating documents is often the easiest point to make them accessible, and in many cases, requires only a small change to workflow to achieve. In the meantime, Sarah, good prompt, I did go and checked our user guide and it could be improved in this area. I have created the following issue to put forward a change: Kind regards Quentin.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:34 AM Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@...> wrote: Morning Gene --
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Re: NVDA Navigation Using Touch Gestures and Setting Up Custom Gestures
Quentin Christensen
This is a good question, and I do agree that asking what NVDA's equivalent of the rotor on iOS is perfectly acceptable - the Rotor is a screenreader function rather than a system function (it is part of VoiceOver) so that is reasonable. NVDA does have some touch support and we are working on improving this. In general touch support on Windows isn't quite as polished as it is on your smart phone or tablet - primarily because Windows was designed as a keyboard and mouse driven interface, and most programs are still designed that way. The iPhone and Android were designed as touch devices, and so apps developed for those platforms are designed to be controlled that way (and so in contrast, mobile apps, don't tend to have as good an experience using a keyboard as you would have controlling a Windows program with the keyboard). I must admit, I'm not sure about how to select and copy text with a touch screen on Windows. Kind regards Quentin.
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Re: Spelling Errors
Gene
Perhaps shift applications key does the same thing as shift f10. Is that what extended application key means?
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If so, perhaps shift application key would open the menu. Gene
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From: Sarah k Alawami Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 9:19 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling Errors Shift f10 is the extended applications key so to speak. Take care -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 23 Nov 2020, at 19:13, Quentin Christensen wrote: The context menu not working when pressing the applications key seems to be a bug in Windows 10 mail. Interestingly, if you move to a misspelt word and press SHIFT+F10, it opens a list of alternate spellings. Use the arrow keys to find the one you want and enter to replace. I have always thought that SHIFT+F10 simply sent the same command to the computer as pressing the applications key, but evidently in this case, Mail treats them differently. On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:48 PM Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps because it is an app, you need to open the menu a different way. I don't know about the difference between apps and applications. You might try using object navigation which should already be on the word, move the mouse to it, then right click. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mullins Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 4:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling Errors Hi Using W10 Mail app throws up spelling errors but the context menu will not activate if I use the Applications key whilst located on a mis-spelled word. Cheers Chris From: Gene Sent: 20 November 2020 09:03 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling Errors T -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: In-Process is out
Hi, Sure, thanks. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:20 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process is out
Thanks Joseph! Can I link to that in the next In-Process please?
Quentin.
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