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Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


It is not an empty folder, I select a file first and then it happens when deleting the file using the delete key.


Dan Beaver


On 9/4/2016 5:27 AM, Chris wrote:

The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least

 

 

 

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 04 September 2016 00:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

 

Odd, do you ever use file explorer for other things (press Windows+e) and have you noticed any other issues?

Also which version of Windows are you running?  I'm using Rhett latest fast insider bold of Windows 10. I haven't specifically looked lately, but I know I've had various Windows, mostly settings Windows, which either don't respond or close unexpectedly in various builds. I wonder if this is something similar?

Regards

Quentin

 

On 4 Sep 2016 07:12, "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Hi Quinton,

 

Actually, I am talking about the downloads folder in the "this pc".  I don't have any trouble with my browser which is also the latest update to Firefox.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 9/2/2016 10:05 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

By downloads folder, do you mean the "This PC - Downloads" folder in File Explorer, or the downloads folder in your browser?

 

If that latter, which browser are you using?

 

I'm using the latest version of Windows 10 insider build (actually correction - 14905.1000 - the latest fast build has downloaded and wants to restart my machine), NVDA 2016.3rs2 and Firefox 48.0.2 - I can't reproduce your bug at the moment, but I'll try again once windows restarts.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Has anyone else seen this?  this just started happening recently but I do not know if it is NVDA or Windows 10 doing it.


Literally, I select a file in the downloads folder and then press the delete key.  It does delete the file but it also closes the folder.  What a pain!


I am running windows 10 most recent updates and NVDA 2016.3-RC2.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





 

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System points and systemrestor in windows 10

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This is now enabled in windows 10 as it used to be in 7, but it seems not to be working for me.
It used to make a system point when a program was about to install or uninstall, at windows updates and with some cleaners like cclean and registry checkers, but now the only way it seems to be working is manually.
Am I missing something in the dialogues due to nvda not reading it? I've tried navigation modes with no success.Could it be that now it needs a name, the other operationsdo not supply one but they should surely have the date as default.
anyone?
I don't want to rely on backup and restore again, that seems to fail with amazing regularity, and why does defender keep on asking to scan.
Weird.
I'd also like to get rid of all those helpful, not messages like try office now or whatever that seem to infest windows 10 all the time.
Brian

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Re: two sounds keep going off intermittently

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes strangely, are these extremely short sounds compared to others.
Some laptop sound systems seem to go to sleep a little too long and miss the. I've noticed this also by playing some of the windows sounds through, say Winamp.
Some of the longer ones play fine, but the little clicks and stuff you do not hear them at all. If however I load the sound into a sound editor and add a short start and tail of silence to the file then resave it, it play fine.
its not a new problem, I've noticed it as far back as xp on some sound hardware.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] two sounds keep going off intermittently


Hi,
processes come and go, and I guess that triggers those sounds. Reasons
might include scheduled updates or running apps utilizing helper processes.
Do the sounds coincide with any windows opening or closing on your system,
or do they appear completely at random?
Kind regards,
Felix

marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um
01:09 Uhr:

Good afternoon list; Marv here. I got a new computer; acer desktop
running windows ten and nvda 16.2. I have a minor issue; I hope. This is
the home edition. I put in two sounds; one for open program and another
for close program. A Microsoft disability specialist worked on this thing
for approximately two hours without resolution. These are the only sounds
that are effected by this intermittent problem. If anyone has any ideas on
what I could try, I would like to hear them. Thanks in advance.


Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I've been fiddling with this this morning on the Windows 10 machine, and it seems OK to me. I have found that there is still a tendency to lag in these folders making it sometimes possible to delete the incorrect file, but the folder stayed OPen for me.
This is both on next and the latest rc2.
I'm still getting the odd crash of explorer though which locks up nvda with core frozen in stack, sometimes for some minutes.
This also can occur on windows 7 though, and I suspect its a problem in windows itself.
One odd thing I do notice about deleting files on 10 is that it never asks if yyou want to delete multiple items, which seems at odds with the general nany tendency of the rest of the operating system. I suppose its easy enough to undo your last action now, but if you are not carefull you can get confused.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@btinternet.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window


The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least




From: Quentin Christensen


Re: two sounds keep going off intermittently

Felix G.
 

Hi,
processes come and go, and I guess that triggers those sounds. Reasons might include scheduled updates or running apps utilizing helper processes.
Do the sounds coincide with any windows opening or closing on your system, or do they appear completely at random?
Kind regards,
Felix

marvin kotler <m.kotler53@...> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um 01:09 Uhr:

    Good afternoon list; Marv here.  I got a new computer; acer desktop running windows ten and nvda 16.2.  I have a minor issue; I hope.  This is the home edition.  I put in two sounds; one for open program and another for close program.  A Microsoft disability specialist worked on this thing for approximately two hours without resolution.  These are the only sounds that are effected by this intermittent problem.  If anyone has any ideas on what I could try, I would like to hear them.  Thanks in advance.


Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Haven't try that, maybe I'll try it some point.


Re: deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

Chris
 

The only time I known this to happen is when you remove a external drive memory card or flash drive but for an empty folder to do this is odd to say the least

 

 

 

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 04 September 2016 00:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] deleting file from downloads folder closes the downloads folder window

 

Odd, do you ever use file explorer for other things (press Windows+e) and have you noticed any other issues?

Also which version of Windows are you running?  I'm using Rhett latest fast insider bold of Windows 10. I haven't specifically looked lately, but I know I've had various Windows, mostly settings Windows, which either don't respond or close unexpectedly in various builds. I wonder if this is something similar?

Regards

Quentin

 

On 4 Sep 2016 07:12, "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Hi Quinton,

 

Actually, I am talking about the downloads folder in the "this pc".  I don't have any trouble with my browser which is also the latest update to Firefox.

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 9/2/2016 10:05 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

By downloads folder, do you mean the "This PC - Downloads" folder in File Explorer, or the downloads folder in your browser?

 

If that latter, which browser are you using?

 

I'm using the latest version of Windows 10 insider build (actually correction - 14905.1000 - the latest fast build has downloaded and wants to restart my machine), NVDA 2016.3rs2 and Firefox 48.0.2 - I can't reproduce your bug at the moment, but I'll try again once windows restarts.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:

Has anyone else seen this?  this just started happening recently but I do not know if it is NVDA or Windows 10 doing it.


Literally, I select a file in the downloads folder and then press the delete key.  It does delete the file but it also closes the folder.  What a pain!


I am running windows 10 most recent updates and NVDA 2016.3-RC2.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver





 

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Re: Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi,

Does this happen if NVDA is run in Core mode (all add-ons disabled)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 2:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi all,

Today when using the calculator app in Windows 10 I noticed that NVDA doesn't read the keys I pressed (backspace, clear, etc) and the changes make to the output display, for example if I delete a number NVDA won't announce the change, even with the latest version of Windows 10 Essentials add on installed.

If I'm correct, I started noticing this bug since I upgraded to 2016.3 RC1.

Is this a bug with NVDA? Or the Windows 10 Essentials add on...


Windows 10 calculatore

 

Hi all,

Today when using the calculator app in Windows 10 I noticed that NVDA doesn't read the keys I pressed (backspace, clear, etc) and the changes make to the output display, for example if I delete a number NVDA won't announce the change, even with the latest version of Windows 10 Essentials add on installed.

If I'm correct, I started noticing this bug since I upgraded to 2016.3 RC1.

Is this a bug with NVDA? Or the Windows 10 Essentials add on...


Re: Reading command prompt

Felix G.
 

Hello again,
turns out my theory was wrong. The exact explanation can be found in
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/513
There were two commits which actually fixed this for anything above Vista, but they caused other problems so were reverted.
Maybe it would make sense to experiment with the STABILIZE_DELAY timer in the Winconsole class.
Kind regards,
Felix

Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um 09:57 Uhr:

Hi,
my theory is that it has to do with the keyboard hook. Technically, it seems that characters printed to the console are seen by the keyboard hook as key input, and then treated as such. To whoever wrote that hook: could this be true? I mean, could console output erroneously make your hook trigger?
Kind regards,
Felix

Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um 04:13 Uhr:
Tyler,

The problem with turning of character echo is that when I work on the commandline, I like to hear the characters I type so we still need a real fix for this problem.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 6:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading command prompt

This is normal.
To fix it, turn off character and word echo.
On 9/3/2016 5:27 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I tried the new NVDA 2016.3RC2, I noticed that NVDA still spell
> out the output of the command prompt, for example when I launch it it
> would spell out the current directory in full; this issue occurred on
> Windows
> 10 and is quite annoying when using the command prompt.
>
> Is this a bug in NVDA? If so will this gets fix?
>
>








Re: Reading command prompt

Felix G.
 

Hi,
my theory is that it has to do with the keyboard hook. Technically, it seems that characters printed to the console are seen by the keyboard hook as key input, and then treated as such. To whoever wrote that hook: could this be true? I mean, could console output erroneously make your hook trigger?
Kind regards,
Felix

Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> schrieb am So., 4. Sep. 2016 um 04:13 Uhr:

Tyler,

The problem with turning of character echo is that when I work on the commandline, I like to hear the characters I type so we still need a real fix for this problem.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 6:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading command prompt

This is normal.
To fix it, turn off character and word echo.
On 9/3/2016 5:27 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> When I tried the new NVDA 2016.3RC2, I noticed that NVDA still spell
> out the output of the command prompt, for example when I launch it it
> would spell out the current directory in full; this issue occurred on
> Windows
> 10 and is quite annoying when using the command prompt.
>
> Is this a bug in NVDA? If so will this gets fix?
>
>








fake clip

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Morning guys

 

I hope you are well.

 

I am trying.

 

I recently heard of you talking about am addon called something like ‘fake clip’.

 

I visited the nvda addon page and I don’t remember seeing it.

 

However, I visited Jeff’s repository and found it.

 

The problem is that it comes as a zip file / folder with a few files within it.

 

One can’t easily identify which file to install.

 

Would you please help me with the process of installing the addon?

 

Your help is appreciated in advance.

 

With respect

Marisane


Re: Word 2016

kelby carlson
 

All right, I was able to find the dialogue referred to. However none
of the file types are checked, which I assume means they are
unblocked.

On 9/4/16, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:
I am able toopen the window you are talking about, but I can't alter
anything and the website you linked me too is sort of vague.




Re: Word 2016

kelby carlson
 

I am able toopen the window you are talking about, but I can't alter
anything and the website you linked me too is sort of vague.


Re: Word 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Kelby

I find it hard to remember exactly what I did to fix the problem. However, I did reinstall Office 2016 and after that the problem went away. Not a very satisfactory explanation I’m afraid. However, would you consider running a repair on Office? Failing that, deleting and completely reinstalling might help.

 

Before you do that, can you confirm that:

1.      You can create a new Word or excel file from within either program?

2.       That you can open files listed in the “Recents” tab of the file menu?

3.      That the “File / Open” dialog cannot focus on the directory where your existing files are located from within either program?

 

If these conditions are true, then you have the same problem that I had and I would recommend a reinstall of MS Office.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Reading command prompt

Pranav Lal
 

Tyler,

The problem with turning of character echo is that when I work on the commandline, I like to hear the characters I type so we still need a real fix for this problem.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 6:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading command prompt

This is normal.
To fix it, turn off character and word echo.
On 9/3/2016 5:27 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi all,

When I tried the new NVDA 2016.3RC2, I noticed that NVDA still spell
out the output of the command prompt, for example when I launch it it
would spell out the current directory in full; this issue occurred on
Windows
10 and is quite annoying when using the command prompt.

Is this a bug in NVDA? If so will this gets fix?


Re: Reading command prompt

 

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll give that a try...


Re: Reading command prompt

Quentin Christensen
 

I'll have more of a look into this. In the meantime, you can set up a configuration profile just for there command prompt which has speak topped characters and words turned off so you can have those settings turned on in other programs without needing to keep changing it yourself.

The Basic Training for NVDA had a section on this (chapter 13, Configuring NVDA).

Regards

Quentin


On 4 Sep 2016 10:38, "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion, though I've always have character echo on while using other apps without any issue, the issue occurred exclusively in the command prompt and not in any other apps like Word.


Re: Reading command prompt

 

Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion, though I've always have character echo on while using other apps without any issue, the issue occurred exclusively in the command prompt and not in any other apps like Word.


Re: Reading command prompt

Tyler Spivey
 

This is normal.
To fix it, turn off character and word echo.

On 9/3/2016 5:27 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi all,

When I tried the new NVDA 2016.3RC2, I noticed that NVDA still spell out
the output of the command prompt, for example when I launch it it would
spell out the current directory in full; this issue occurred on Windows
10 and is quite annoying when using the command prompt.

Is this a bug in NVDA? If so will this gets fix?