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folder view list

Don H
 

Running latest NVDA on Win 10 20h2. Usually when I first boot my computer and load nvda when going to the desktop I simply hear the title of the icon I am on. However other times nvda says folder view list before saying the name of the icon. What causes this? No big deal just wonder why the difference.
Thanks


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Laughing Thunder
 

NVDA is a Windows software product and doesn’t support android.

On Nov 25, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Hettie <woehler.hettie@gmail.com> wrote:


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Re: input help

Gene
 

I shall present the long method, to be used the first time, then the short method which you can use unless you find some reason to use the long one.

I haven't used the utility. In NVDA, the object navigator, by default, follows the cursor or the item you move to in a list so you are likely to already be there in terms of where the object navigator is located. Use read current line when you first use the utility to confirm that. While that is the default action, if something is programmed in such a way so that it doesn't happen, it is possible the object nnavigator won't be where it should be. But usually, it should be where you expect.
So do the following:

First, if you have changed to screen review, you must change back to object review. If you haven't, you can omit this step.
Use the command numpad insert numpad 1 until you hear no previous navigation modes or something similar or until you hear object nhavigation. You will then be using the correct navigation, object navigation.
As I said, you need only do this if you have switched to screen review.
Move to the item in the list as usual.
Press numpad 8 to be sure the object navigator is in the right place. You don't have to keep doing that but you want to make sure that in this utility, the object navigator is in the right place when you move with the arrow keys in the list. After you confirm this once, you can omit this check.
Then use numpad insert numpad slash to route the mouse pointer to the navigator object.
Then use numpad star to right click the item.

I shall now present the short way after you have used the long way this first time:
Move to the place you want to be in the list.
Use the command numpad insert, numpad slash.
Then use just numpad star to right click.
If you were left clicking you would use just numpad slash after you routed the mouse pointer with numpad insert numpad slash.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 12:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] input help

Here's a little more context.

Anybody used a little search utility called Bit Che?


In Jaws, after I search for something and focus on an item in the list
of results, I do route Jaws to PC, then Numpad Star to simulate a right
mouse click, then I pick something from the resulting menu that pops up.


I'm trying to do the same thing in NVDA.


Chris



On 2020-11-27 1:38 p.m., Gene wrote:
You must be in the program where the keys apply if they are program specific. If you are in a browser, you can press letter keys and hear announcements such as that x is move to the next check box, c moves to the next combo box, etc.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] input help

I tried to use the input help function of NVDA using the insert 1 keys
and find that the input help does not nearly cover all the possible
keys. For example after turning input help on and entering insert f7 it
says nothing even though this is the key combo to get a list of elements
like links on a web page. Is there a way to improve this input help so
it will identify all nva keys?










Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Chris Smart
 

I have the NVDA Basic Training. I just need to sit down and go through it. (grin) then, I'm going to attempt the NVDA certification a second time. I only got 65% the first time, which isn't all that surprising.

On 2020-11-27 1:48 p.m., Gene wrote:
There is object navigation and screen review and you need to know both to get full use of review abilities.  I'm not sure what the best material is that explains how they work.  I'll let others discuss good material for learning.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?



Ok, thanks David.




I'm relatively new to relying on NVDA for more day-to-day computing tasks, and I still sometimes find myself in situations where it seems things are easier in Jaws. It's usually just a case of me not having ObjectNav figured out yet though.







On 2020-11-27 1:27 p.m., David Griffith wrote:


As far as I can tell it is exactly the same if you are using a numpad.



That is Insert minus or dash depending on how it is announced.

NVDA announces  move to focus which is I think the NVDA equivalent. As NVDA does not have a Jaws cursor function in the same way as Jaws I think it has to be used more with object navigation but I will leave others more qualified to comment on this.

David G.





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From: Chris Smart
Sent: 27 November 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?





Hi.



Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor

to PC cursor?





thanks



Chris






















Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Chris Smart
 

Thanks! That did exactly what I was looking for.


Happy Thanksgiving to those celebrating it, and please don't catch or spread Covid.

On 2020-11-27 1:47 p.m., Steve Matzura wrote:
Indeed there is. NVDA Key + Left Mouse Button (Num Pad Slash).


On 11/27/2020 1:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hi.

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor to PC cursor?


thanks

Chris









Re: input help

Chris Smart
 

Here's a little more context.

Anybody used a little search utility called Bit Che?


In Jaws, after I search for something and focus on an item in the list of results, I do route Jaws to PC, then Numpad Star to simulate a right mouse click, then I pick something from the resulting menu that pops up.


I'm trying to do the same thing in NVDA.


Chris

On 2020-11-27 1:38 p.m., Gene wrote:
You must be in the program where the keys apply if they are program specific. If you are in a browser, you can press letter keys and hear announcements such as that x is move to the next check box, c moves to the next combo box, etc.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] input help

I tried to use the input help function of NVDA using the insert 1 keys
and find that the input help does not nearly cover all the possible
keys.  For example after turning input help on and entering insert f7 it
says nothing even though this is the key combo to get a list of elements
like links on a web page.  Is there a way to improve this input help so
it will identify all nva keys?









Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Have a look on the following page it should answer some of your questions like the one you asked.


The link can be found at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/FAQ <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/FAQ>


gene nz

On 28/11/2020 7:15 am, Chris Smart wrote:
Hi.

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor to PC cursor?


thanks

Chris






Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Gene
 

But if you don't know object naviggation and screen review, how they are different and how to use them, you won't understand what you are doing properly when you route. Also, the command you gave is not for routing the object navigator to the cursor. You gave the command for routing the mouse pointer to the position of the object navigator, which is a separate command. We don't know which is being asked about but learning about review and routing is knowledge that is much more likely to be learned and understood well through comprehensive instruction. It is likely to be very difficult if you just pick up this bit of unorganized information here and there.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Indeed there is. NVDA Key + Left Mouse Button (Num Pad Slash).


On 11/27/2020 1:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hi.

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor to PC cursor?


thanks

Chris







Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Gene
 

There is object navigation and screen review and you need to know both to get full use of review abilities. I'm not sure what the best material is that explains how they work. I'll let others discuss good material for learning.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?



Ok, thanks David.




I'm relatively new to relying on NVDA for more day-to-day computing tasks, and I still sometimes find myself in situations where it seems things are easier in Jaws. It's usually just a case of me not having ObjectNav figured out yet though.







On 2020-11-27 1:27 p.m., David Griffith wrote:


As far as I can tell it is exactly the same if you are using a numpad.



That is Insert minus or dash depending on how it is announced.

NVDA announces move to focus which is I think the NVDA equivalent. As NVDA does not have a Jaws cursor function in the same way as Jaws I think it has to be used more with object navigation but I will leave others more qualified to comment on this.

David G.





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From: Chris Smart
Sent: 27 November 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?





Hi.



Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor

to PC cursor?





thanks



Chris


Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Steve Matzura
 

Indeed there is. NVDA Key + Left Mouse Button (Num Pad Slash).

On 11/27/2020 1:15 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hi.

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor to PC cursor?


thanks

Chris






Re: input help

Gene
 

You must be in the program where the keys apply if they are program specific. If you are in a browser, you can press letter keys and hear announcements such as that x is move to the next check box, c moves to the next combo box, etc.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] input help

I tried to use the input help function of NVDA using the insert 1 keys
and find that the input help does not nearly cover all the possible
keys. For example after turning input help on and entering insert f7 it
says nothing even though this is the key combo to get a list of elements
like links on a web page. Is there a way to improve this input help so
it will identify all nva keys?


Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Chris Smart
 

Ok, thanks David.


I'm relatively new to relying on NVDA for more day-to-day computing tasks, and I still sometimes find myself in situations where it seems things are easier in Jaws. It's usually just a case of me not having ObjectNav figured out yet though.



On 2020-11-27 1:27 p.m., David Griffith wrote:

As far as I can tell it is exactly the same if you are using a numpad.

 

That is Insert minus or dash depending on how it is announced.

NVDA announces  move to focus which is I think the NVDA equivalent. As NVDA does not have a Jaws cursor function in the same way as Jaws I think it has to be used more with object navigation but I will leave others more qualified to comment on this.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: 27 November 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

 

Hi.

 

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor

to PC cursor?

 

 

thanks

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

David Griffith
 

As far as I can tell it is exactly the same if you are using a numpad.

 

That is Insert minus or dash depending on how it is announced.

NVDA announces  move to focus which is I think the NVDA equivalent. As NVDA does not have a Jaws cursor function in the same way as Jaws I think it has to be used more with object navigation but I will leave others more qualified to comment on this.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: 27 November 2020 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

 

Hi.

 

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor

to PC cursor?

 

 

thanks

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


NVDA Equivalent to "Route Jaws to PC"?

Chris Smart
 

Hi.

Is there an NVDA equivalent to the Jaws command that routes Jaws cursor to PC cursor?


thanks

Chris


Re: list of links

Gene
 

Links is the default setting. If you change it, you may have to reset it, I don't know but if you haven't used the feature before, it will already be set for links.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] list of links



Nvda plus f7, then tab to the radio button and choose links. This si called the elements list. Search the menual for "elements" and you should be good to go. You can even filter in the search field.

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On 27 Nov 2020, at 8:53, Don H wrote:



I thought there was a NVDA command to create a list of all links on a web page. Having said that I can't find any reference to it in the NVDA manuals. Is there such a command?
Thanks


Re: input help

 

Hi,
Input help is context-sensitive, similar to input gestures dialog. You won't get help messages on elements list (NVDA+F7) unless you invoke input help from a browse mode window.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] input help

I tried to use the input help function of NVDA using the insert 1 keys and find that the input help does not nearly cover all the possible keys. For example after turning input help on and entering insert f7 it says nothing even though this is the key combo to get a list of elements like links on a web page. Is there a way to improve this input help so it will identify all nva keys?


input help

Don H
 

I tried to use the input help function of NVDA using the insert 1 keys and find that the input help does not nearly cover all the possible keys. For example after turning input help on and entering insert f7 it says nothing even though this is the key combo to get a list of elements like links on a web page. Is there a way to improve this input help so it will identify all nva keys?


Re: list of links

Angelo Sonnesso
 

NVDA plus F7.


73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] list of links

I thought there was a NVDA command to create a list of all links on a
web page. Having said that I can't find any reference to it in the NVDA
manuals. Is there such a command?
Thanks


Re: list of links

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nvda plus f7, then tab to the radio button and choose links. This si called the elements list. Search the menual for "elements" and you should be good to go. You can even filter in the search field.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 27 Nov 2020, at 8:53, Don H wrote:

I thought there was a NVDA command to create a list of all links on a web page. Having said that I can't find any reference to it in the NVDA manuals. Is there such a command?
Thanks


list of links

Don H
 

I thought there was a NVDA command to create a list of all links on a web page. Having said that I can't find any reference to it in the NVDA manuals. Is there such a command?
Thanks

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