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Re: How to get NVDA to read password notification in Edge

Gene
 

How many times did you do f6. You may need to do it more than once. You need to do f6 to move through all the different what are called panes of a window until you return to where you started.

If you don't want to be asked for each site, you can set the program not to ask you.
I assume you are running the latest version of the program.

Do the following:
Open the tools menu with alt t.
Open options by typing o.
After a pause the options page will start to be read.
If you aren't in the search field, tab or shift tab to it. Press enter in the edit field.
Type password and start to tab.
You will get to a checkbox that says something like remember passwords or ask to remember passwords. Uncheck it with the space bar.
There is no ok button. Close the browser as usual or go on to another page as usual.
You will no longer be asked.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to get nvda to read password notifiction in edge



Hey guys:



I was just on amazon with my wife nearby, and,

After I put my password in,

It came up with a pop up window that asked me if I wanted it to remember my password;

My question is,

Using nvda,

How do I get into that little dialogue?

I tried to f6 and shift-f6 to get there, but I never saw it.

She had to click it away with the mouse?

Is there a way first,

To have nvda read the notification? And,

How do I get to it to even know it is there to click it away?





Please advise as you like.



Mike M.



Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net

Ph: 618 783 9331


Re: How to get NVDA to read password notification in Edge

Mohammed Alderweesh <alderweesh.m@...>
 

Hi,

You can use Alt + S to have your browser save the password,

Best,
Mohammed

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 12:28 AM mike mcglashon <michael.mcglashon@...> wrote:
well Brian sure I suppose that might be helpful if I can learn how to turn it off so I don’t have to worry about if it remembers my passwords or not but I also like the idea of having it remember my password because half the time I don’t remember what they are but I know that dialogue asked if I wanted to save it the password forever never whatever

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Dec 19, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Mike,

             I can't answer your actual question, but have a follow-up one for you that may make your own question irrelevant:  Do you ever want Edge (or any web browser you happen to use) to be remembering your passwords for you?

             If not, this feature can be turned off entirely, and I can tell you how to do that.  But if you do want to use the password management feature I don't know of the top of my head how one throws focus to that specific dialog when it appears.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: How to get NVDA to read password notification in Edge

mike mcglashon
 

well Brian sure I suppose that might be helpful if I can learn how to turn it off so I don’t have to worry about if it remembers my passwords or not but I also like the idea of having it remember my password because half the time I don’t remember what they are but I know that dialogue asked if I wanted to save it the password forever never whatever

contact information
Mike McGlashon
PH: 618-783-9331
Email: michael.mcglashon@...


On Dec 19, 2020, at 2:47 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Mike,

             I can't answer your actual question, but have a follow-up one for you that may make your own question irrelevant:  Do you ever want Edge (or any web browser you happen to use) to be remembering your passwords for you?

             If not, this feature can be turned off entirely, and I can tell you how to do that.  But if you do want to use the password management feature I don't know of the top of my head how one throws focus to that specific dialog when it appears.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: word perfect

Monte Single
 

Hi,

What is a v e p stand?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: December 19, 2020 2:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

WordPerfect still exists?

-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: How to get NVDA to read password notification in Edge

 

Mike,

             I can't answer your actual question, but have a follow-up one for you that may make your own question irrelevant:  Do you ever want Edge (or any web browser you happen to use) to be remembering your passwords for you?

             If not, this feature can be turned off entirely, and I can tell you how to do that.  But if you do want to use the password management feature I don't know of the top of my head how one throws focus to that specific dialog when it appears.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


How to get NVDA to read password notification in Edge

mike mcglashon
 

Hey guys:

 

I was just on amazon with my wife nearby, and,

After I put my password in,

It came up with a pop up window that asked me if I wanted it to remember my password;

My question is,

Using nvda,

How do I get into that little dialogue?

I tried to f6 and shift-f6 to get there, but I never saw it.

She had to click it away with the mouse?

Is there a way first,

To have nvda read the notification? And,

How do I get to it to even know it is there to click it away?

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 


Re: word perfect

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


I use to use Word Perfect back in the DOS days. I used it when running my BEP stand.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
WordPerfect still exists?
-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: 2020-12-19: Add-ons Site Up and Running Again

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

Just to update, the server issue has been resolved and everything should be working again. Apologies for the inconvenience n

Quentin

On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, 22:37 Quentin Christensen via groups.io, <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're aware of the issue with the add-ons site being down, and we're looking into it. Thanks for your patience.

Quentin


Re: word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 01:38 PM, Don H wrote:
So far no one has said they are currently using Word Perfect.
-
Correct.  And that should tell you something about the potential risk it might not be accessible.  It may be, but without confirmation from another screen reader user who uses it, and specifically the same version you could purchase for the price you mentioned, it's a crap shoot from an accessibility standpoint.

It would be interesting to have the accessibility confirmed or refuted, though.  I haven't personally known anyone using WordPerfect in many years, or I'd even be willing to try it out with a portable version of NVDA just for kicks.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: word perfect

Arlene
 

Wow! Word Perfect does exist?  I only used word 5.1 when it was in doss.  I liked it. But I never tried other versions of it.  I went to word 97 when I was in college.  Then I went to outlook 2010 witch had word and others.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: December 19, 2020 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.

-
David,

          Related to this, did you ever get to play with SoftMaker Free Office, TextMaker in particular, if it was installed with the "use menus" style rather than the more typical ribbons?  I've already verified that the ribbons are not accessible, but the testing I was able to do suggested that the menus interface was completely accessible.

           It's a shame that the installer, where you have to make the choice of menus versus ribbons, is not (or wasn't for me) accessible, but that's a small price to pay if the three programs that are the equivalents of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are completely accessible via the menu-style interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 

 


Re: word perfect

Don H
 

So far no one has said they are currently using Word Perfect.

On 12/19/2020 8:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
What? WordPerfect still exists?
I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.
On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.






Re: word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.
-
David,

          Related to this, did you ever get to play with SoftMaker Free Office, TextMaker in particular, if it was installed with the "use menus" style rather than the more typical ribbons?  I've already verified that the ribbons are not accessible, but the testing I was able to do suggested that the menus interface was completely accessible.

           It's a shame that the installer, where you have to make the choice of menus versus ribbons, is not (or wasn't for me) accessible, but that's a small price to pay if the three programs that are the equivalents of Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are completely accessible via the menu-style interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: word perfect

Blaster
 

The program formerly from JASC, Paintshop Pro is now owned by Corel.
I only use it for scanning documents, but it was an accessible program
when it was owned by JASC and Corel has maintained it's accessibility,
so I'd hope that they'd do the same for Word Perfect.

Regards,
Blaster

On 12/19/20, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
Admittedly, I have not worked with the Windows version of Wordperfect in 20
years as a student I was working with used it for her word processor. At
that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows
programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier.
At the time it was completely accessible. I have no idea as to how the
program's interface may have changed since that time.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect
6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.



On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen
readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.















Re: word perfect

David Goldfield
 

Admittedly, I have not worked with the Windows version of Wordperfect in 20 years as a student I was working with used it for her word processor. At that time it had the old school menu bar interface that many Windows programs were still using at that time, similar to Office 2003 and earlier. At the time it was completely accessible. I have no idea as to how the program's interface may have changed since that time.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] word perfect

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.



On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen
readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.






Re: word perfect

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:35 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
WordPerfect still exists?
-
Apparently so.  Look under the Office section of the Products Dropdown on the Corel Home Page.

I can't say anything about it's accessibility, and if I were not already a long-term WordPerfect user, I'd look at other options, several excellent ones of which are free and accessible.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: word perfect

Chris Smart
 

What? WordPerfect still exists?

I'm guessing it's nothing like the last version I had, which was WordPerfect 6 for DOS. I absolutely loved it.

On 2020-12-19 8:51 a.m., Don H wrote:
How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.





word perfect

Don H
 

How well does the latest version of Word Perfect work with screen readers? See Word Perfect on sale for $59.


2020-12-19: Add-ons Site Up and Running Again

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

We're aware of the issue with the add-ons site being down, and we're looking into it. Thanks for your patience.

Quentin


Re: copy to clip board

Arlene
 

I like that. I like how NVDA says Copy to clipboard. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: December 18, 2020 2:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] copy to clip board

 

The fnew feature within the NVDA beta where it says copy to clip board

and then says what has been copied is really a nice new feature.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: copy to clip board

Vickie Andrada
 

I personally like it. For me it's not a big deal to hit the control key if I don't want to hear exactly what it's copied. But each to their own. So maybe it'd be good to be able to turn this off if you didn't want it.

Vicki

On 12/18/2020 7:09 PM, Gene wrote:
Comments on what's new in the beta:

I don't think automatic reading of what is copied to the clipboard is a good feature.  First, it only says copied to clipboard where it always has, that is, in Browse Mode.  It doesn't do what the add-on does, that is, say copied or copied to clipboard in general.  The only change is that it now repeats the text you have copied to the clipboard, which  is already available using the command NVDA c.  I generally know what I have selected before I copy it and I'd rather issue the command to hear it if I want it announced.  This way, I have to stop speech every time I don't want the readout.


I think the automatic reading should be removed and that the announcement of copied or copied to clipboard should be made universal, as the add-on does.


I wouldn't object if an announcement were made when copying text that says something like, to hear what has been selected before copying, use NVDA c or NVDA key c.  You would then be instructed that to stop this announcement, do something like issue the command NVDA c quickly twice.  But this is an example of too much automation and it tells you what is copied after you did so where the NVDA c command tells you what you will copy.  I don't want to make this more important than it is.  Pressing control to stop speech takes almost no time and can be gotten used to quickly, its the principle.  I think its too much verbosity and often duplicates what I hear when I want to when selecting text or using NVDA key 3.


I very seldom work with sites that have Aria live regions, so I can't test this, but the feature that turns off speech from those regions when dynamic content is turned off is an important addition.


When using the f1 help in NVDA dialogs, in the one dialog I tested it in, document formatting, you lose your place in the dialog when help is opened with f1.  Closing help returns you to the beginning of the dialog.  Also, after frames, there is an unlabeled checkbox and it is not listed in the help documentation.  why is it there and what does it do?


Figure and out of figure are also still not controllable in the object presentation dialog.

Gene

12/18/2020 4:10 PM, Don H wrote:

The fnew feature within the NVDA beta where it says copy to clip board and then says what has been copied is really a nice new feature.







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