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Re: Tony's add-ons: new and updated

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

Thanks!

2021-01-12 11:33 GMT-03:00, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@gmail.com>:

Got it, will look into that issue with IndentNav.

On 1/11/2021 7:23 PM, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:
Hi Tony! Thank you very much for all these add-ons, especially
WordNav. I used that Tony enhancements add-on a lot in VS Code but it
had to be enabled and disabled, since in UIA NVDA it said selected and
unselected all the time.
Since you corrected that, I imagine you already know how to do it, you
could correct that same error for IndentNav? In Visual Studio has that
behavior, NVDA says selected and unselected every time I use it. It
also happens to me in Windows 10 Sticky Notes, which also uses UI
Automation.

Thank you very much in advance!

2021-01-11 9:32 GMT-03:00, Suhas Dharwad <twigsnap7@gmail.com>:
sentence nav, word nav, and symbols, does sound quite interesting.

Will give it a try.
thanks.

---Suhas
Sent from Thunderbird <https://www.thunderbird.net/>


“Things can turn out differently, Apollo.
That's the nice thing about being human.
We only have one life, but we can choose what kind of story it's
going to be.”

Rick Riordan <https://rickriordan.com/>
On 1/10/2021 3:43, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,

This is Tony, author of many NVDA add-ons. During holidays I updated
many of my add-ons, and wrote two new add-ons, so I would like to
share them with you guys. This is a long email, so please feel free to
navigate by headings!

Please note that links on the official website have not been updated,
as it seems that nobody has access to that website anymore. Therefore,
please download directly from Github, download links included below.


New add-ons:


WordNav

It takes word navigation to the next level in NVDA. It standardizes
what exactly does word mean, e.g. does it include punctuation before
and after, moreover, it offers various definitions of word, some of
which might be useful for software developers, for example when they
are working with camelCaseIdentifiers. It redefines Control+Left/Right
keystrokes, as well as it adds optional Control+Windows+Left/Right
keystrokes. Configuration panel included!

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/download/v1.2/wordNav-1.2.nvda-addon


Console toolkit

This is a collection of tools for heavy console users. Among its
features are:

·More realtime speaking of console output

·* Beep on update

·Control+V shortcut now works in ssh connections

·Editing of current prompt in accessible window

·Capturing command output, including multi-page, and displaying it in
an accessible window

Please note, it supports the default Windows console, a.k.a. command
prompt, as well as windows PowerShell.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/download/v0.2dev/consoleToolkit-0.2dev.nvda-addon


Updates


SentenceNav

This add-on allows to read text sentence by sentence using Alt+Up/Down
keystroke. I managed to improve its performance a lot, now it reads
sentences much faster, especially in large paragraphs. I also added
experimental support for Microsoft Word and WordPad – before this
version built-in NVDA logic applied to sentence navigation in these
programs, and many users have complained about that. Also, a number of
bugfixes. Also I wrote extensive documentation, since sentence finding
code has become so complicated, even I myself is having a hard time
reading my own code after a couple of years since first release 😊

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon>


BrowserNav

BrowserNav contains a set of improvements to browse mode in NVDA.
Besides a number of bugfixes, this new version includes command to
jump to next text written in different style (bound to tilde, that
weird key right above Tab), and a command to scroll down to reveal all
the hidden content, bound to backslash. That last command might be
useful for websites, that load content dynamically. This includes
Youtube, that doesn’t load the entire page and expects users to scroll
down to reveal certain elements, and also so called infinite scroll
webpages, such as Amazon and Facebook.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon>


Tony’s enhancements

This add-on is an incubator for my experimental ideas, yet I believe
many of them might be quite handy for many users. In particular, this
time WordNav and Console toolkit mentioned above have graduated from
this incubator. 😊 Among new features that I added are QuickSearch
command, that allows to quickly find predefined text or regular
expression in text files. I personally find it useful for editing
markdown, because you can set the regular expression to search for
next/previous heading, and also for programming. Another new feature
allows to set system priority for NVDA process – this might improve
responsiveness of NVDA, especially when CPU load is high.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon>


Other


NVDA Symbols

This is not an add-on, but rather a comprehensive (more or less) table
of unicode characters with their proper English names. In particular,
it includes math symbols (the ones that are not defined in NVDA),
Greek letters, technical symbols, various arrows, etc. If you’re
Greek, you would probably want to exclude Greek letters from this
dictionary. If you speak CJK languages, you would probably want to
exclude fixed-width punctuation page from that dictionary. This table
would need to be added manually to your symbols.dic file in NVDA user
config directory.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/
<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/>

·Download:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic>

Let me know what you think!

Belated happy new year!

--Tony











Re: Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Sarah k Alawami
 

It auto reads for me, all the time while in a zoom chat. I take a class with over 200 people so it can ge ta bit chatty, but it works.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jan 2021, at 5:12, Gene wrote:

Yes, but is there a way to have each chat message automatically read when it appears? I don't know but if NVDA doesn't do this, there may be an add-on that will do so.

I just checked and there is an add-on. But I don't know if it automatically reads messages. but it does allow you to turn on or off alerts about such messages. When you get an alert, you will know to check for a new one. That may be of some help.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/zoomEnhancements.en.html

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hello,
Alt-H opens the chat area. Here you can write to the room, to individuals and of course you can read the messages, Use Tab and Shift-Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2021 12:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hi all

Is it possible for NVDA to read the live Chat messages that meeting participants post during a zoom meeting, please? If so, how?

Andrew


Re: An accessible way to sign document with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've used docusign. It works grate. You might need aira for the rest though.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Jan 2021, at 0:26, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have experienced signing documents with NVDA?

I tried the sign document in Word but it does not seem to find the certificate.

In Adobe, I tried to use the sign document function, but when you activate the button, there is no feedback from NVDA.

If you have any hints except adding a jpg of your hand written signature, it would be helpful.

Best

Sylvie


Re: Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,
You can hear any incoming message in the tchat when the tchat is open, by pressing alt+H.
With the zoom add-on mentioned by Gene, you can set up the add-on to read Public In-meeting Chat Received by pressing NVDA + Ctrl + 7.
Press NVDA + Ctrl + 8 to read Private In-meeting Chat Received.
Note from the add-on documentation: "Note that you need to leave reporting all alert types selected (in Zoom accessibility settings) to have the add-on function as expected."
You can choose which alerts are pronounced by NVDA in opening the zoom add-on settings dialog by pressing NVDA + o.
This dialog can only be open when zoom is open too.
The first thing to choose is if you want to have all alerts reported, hear beeps for alerts, hear no alerts, or custom alerts.
If you choose "custom alerts", you will be able to choose which alerts should occur and which should not in checking or unchecking the appropriate checkbox.
When you have selected which alerts should occur, press ok.
I hope this helps.
Best
Sylvie
-----oMessage d'origine-----
De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gene via groups.io
Envoyé : mardi 12 janvier 2021 14:13
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Yes, but is there a way to have each chat message automatically read when it appears? I don't know but if NVDA doesn't do this, there may be an add-on that will do so.

I just checked and there is an add-on. But I don't know if it automatically reads messages. but it does allow you to turn on or off alerts about such messages. When you get an alert, you will know to check for a new one.
That may be of some help.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/zoomEnhancements.en.html

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hello,
Alt-H opens the chat area. Here you can write to the room, to individuals and of course you can read the messages, Use Tab and Shift-Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2021 12:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hi all


Is it possible for NVDA to read the live Chat messages that meeting participants post during a zoom meeting, please? If so, how?


Andrew


Re: Automatic language switching

tilahun muniye
 

Hi.
May be the following addon and synthesis help you.

Dual Voice for NVDA, is an open source speech driver for NVDA screen
reader. This let use two separate voices for reading non-Latin and
Latin languages. This add-on is compatible with SAPI5 (Speech API
version 5) and MSSP (Speech Platform). This NVDA add-on need one
non-Latin and one Latin voices with common interface. Both non-Latin
and Latin voices must have Speech API...

eSpeak: speech synthesis
Text to Speech engine for English and many other languages. Compact
size with clear but artificial pronunciation. Available as a
command-line program with many options, a shared library for Linux,
and a Windows SAPI5 version.
You get them from:https://sourceforge.net/projects/espeak/and
use eloquence sapi5 for English.

On 1/12/21, Kareen <kareen.kiwan@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
Acapela supports auto switch between English and Arabic. Just visit the
Acapela sub menu in nvda for auto switch settings.
Also u can try dual voice addon that does auto switch between latin and none
latin based languages for Sapi5 TTS engines






Re: Automatic language switching

Kareen
 

Hi.
Acapela supports auto switch between English and Arabic. Just visit the Acapela sub menu in nvda for auto switch settings.
Also u can try dual voice addon that does auto switch between latin and none latin based languages for Sapi5 TTS engines 


Re: Tony's add-ons: new and updated

Tony Malykh
 

Got it, will look into that issue with IndentNav.

On 1/11/2021 7:23 PM, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:
Hi Tony! Thank you very much for all these add-ons, especially
WordNav. I used that Tony enhancements add-on a lot in VS Code but it
had to be enabled and disabled, since in UIA NVDA it said selected and
unselected all the time.
Since you corrected that, I imagine you already know how to do it, you
could correct that same error for IndentNav? In Visual Studio has that
behavior, NVDA says selected and unselected every time I use it. It
also happens to me in Windows 10 Sticky Notes, which also uses UI
Automation.

Thank you very much in advance!

2021-01-11 9:32 GMT-03:00, Suhas Dharwad <twigsnap7@gmail.com>:
sentence nav, word nav, and symbols, does sound quite interesting.

Will give it a try.
thanks.

---Suhas
Sent from Thunderbird <https://www.thunderbird.net/>


“Things can turn out differently, Apollo.
That's the nice thing about being human.
We only have one life, but we can choose what kind of story it's
going to be.”

Rick Riordan <https://rickriordan.com/>
On 1/10/2021 3:43, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,

This is Tony, author of many NVDA add-ons. During holidays I updated
many of my add-ons, and wrote two new add-ons, so I would like to
share them with you guys. This is a long email, so please feel free to
navigate by headings!

Please note that links on the official website have not been updated,
as it seems that nobody has access to that website anymore. Therefore,
please download directly from Github, download links included below.


New add-ons:


WordNav

It takes word navigation to the next level in NVDA. It standardizes
what exactly does word mean, e.g. does it include punctuation before
and after, moreover, it offers various definitions of word, some of
which might be useful for software developers, for example when they
are working with camelCaseIdentifiers. It redefines Control+Left/Right
keystrokes, as well as it adds optional Control+Windows+Left/Right
keystrokes. Configuration panel included!

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/download/v1.2/wordNav-1.2.nvda-addon


Console toolkit

This is a collection of tools for heavy console users. Among its
features are:

·More realtime speaking of console output

·* Beep on update

·Control+V shortcut now works in ssh connections

·Editing of current prompt in accessible window

·Capturing command output, including multi-page, and displaying it in
an accessible window

Please note, it supports the default Windows console, a.k.a. command
prompt, as well as windows PowerShell.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/download/v0.2dev/consoleToolkit-0.2dev.nvda-addon


Updates


SentenceNav

This add-on allows to read text sentence by sentence using Alt+Up/Down
keystroke. I managed to improve its performance a lot, now it reads
sentences much faster, especially in large paragraphs. I also added
experimental support for Microsoft Word and WordPad – before this
version built-in NVDA logic applied to sentence navigation in these
programs, and many users have complained about that. Also, a number of
bugfixes. Also I wrote extensive documentation, since sentence finding
code has become so complicated, even I myself is having a hard time
reading my own code after a couple of years since first release 😊

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon>


BrowserNav

BrowserNav contains a set of improvements to browse mode in NVDA.
Besides a number of bugfixes, this new version includes command to
jump to next text written in different style (bound to tilde, that
weird key right above Tab), and a command to scroll down to reveal all
the hidden content, bound to backslash. That last command might be
useful for websites, that load content dynamically. This includes
Youtube, that doesn’t load the entire page and expects users to scroll
down to reveal certain elements, and also so called infinite scroll
webpages, such as Amazon and Facebook.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon>


Tony’s enhancements

This add-on is an incubator for my experimental ideas, yet I believe
many of them might be quite handy for many users. In particular, this
time WordNav and Console toolkit mentioned above have graduated from
this incubator. 😊 Among new features that I added are QuickSearch
command, that allows to quickly find predefined text or regular
expression in text files. I personally find it useful for editing
markdown, because you can set the regular expression to search for
next/previous heading, and also for programming. Another new feature
allows to set system priority for NVDA process – this might improve
responsiveness of NVDA, especially when CPU load is high.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon>


Other


NVDA Symbols

This is not an add-on, but rather a comprehensive (more or less) table
of unicode characters with their proper English names. In particular,
it includes math symbols (the ones that are not defined in NVDA),
Greek letters, technical symbols, various arrows, etc. If you’re
Greek, you would probably want to exclude Greek letters from this
dictionary. If you speak CJK languages, you would probably want to
exclude fixed-width punctuation page from that dictionary. This table
would need to be added manually to your symbols.dic file in NVDA user
config directory.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/
<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/>

·Download:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic>

Let me know what you think!

Belated happy new year!

--Tony






Re: Tony's add-ons: new and updated

Tony Malykh
 

Thank you for kind words! It is feedback like this that motivates me to write and publish add-ons!

On 1/11/2021 5:18 PM, Aschalew Byness wrote:
toni
I really don't know what to say. May God bless you extremely well. I
have been wishing for long to see 'sentence nav add-on supporting MS
word and wordpad. I just tested the water. It works fine. As NVDa do
not recognize sentence-ending punctuation in my language, Amharic, I
found sentence nav to be one-of a kind. I am again at a loss for words
to express what I felt about it.


On 1/11/21, Suhas Dharwad <twigsnap7@gmail.com> wrote:
sentence nav, word nav, and symbols, does sound quite interesting.

Will give it a try.
thanks.

---Suhas
Sent from Thunderbird <https://www.thunderbird.net/>


“Things can turn out differently, Apollo.
That's the nice thing about being human.
We only have one life, but we can choose what kind of story it's
going to be.”

Rick Riordan <https://rickriordan.com/>
On 1/10/2021 3:43, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello all,

This is Tony, author of many NVDA add-ons. During holidays I updated
many of my add-ons, and wrote two new add-ons, so I would like to
share them with you guys. This is a long email, so please feel free to
navigate by headings!

Please note that links on the official website have not been updated,
as it seems that nobody has access to that website anymore. Therefore,
please download directly from Github, download links included below.


New add-ons:


WordNav

It takes word navigation to the next level in NVDA. It standardizes
what exactly does word mean, e.g. does it include punctuation before
and after, moreover, it offers various definitions of word, some of
which might be useful for software developers, for example when they
are working with camelCaseIdentifiers. It redefines Control+Left/Right
keystrokes, as well as it adds optional Control+Windows+Left/Right
keystrokes. Configuration panel included!

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-word-nav/releases/download/v1.2/wordNav-1.2.nvda-addon


Console toolkit

This is a collection of tools for heavy console users. Among its
features are:

·More realtime speaking of console output

·* Beep on update

·Control+V shortcut now works in ssh connections

·Editing of current prompt in accessible window

·Capturing command output, including multi-page, and displaying it in
an accessible window

Please note, it supports the default Windows console, a.k.a. command
prompt, as well as windows PowerShell.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/download/v0.2dev/consoleToolkit-0.2dev.nvda-addon


Updates


SentenceNav

This add-on allows to read text sentence by sentence using Alt+Up/Down
keystroke. I managed to improve its performance a lot, now it reads
sentences much faster, especially in large paragraphs. I also added
experimental support for Microsoft Word and WordPad – before this
version built-in NVDA logic applied to sentence navigation in these
programs, and many users have complained about that. Also, a number of
bugfixes. Also I wrote extensive documentation, since sentence finding
code has become so complicated, even I myself is having a hard time
reading my own code after a couple of years since first release 😊

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-sentence-nav/releases/download/v2.9/SentenceNav-2.9.nvda-addon>


BrowserNav

BrowserNav contains a set of improvements to browse mode in NVDA.
Besides a number of bugfixes, this new version includes command to
jump to next text written in different style (bound to tilde, that
weird key right above Tab), and a command to scroll down to reveal all
the hidden content, bound to backslash. That last command might be
useful for websites, that load content dynamically. This includes
Youtube, that doesn’t load the entire page and expects users to scroll
down to reveal certain elements, and also so called infinite scroll
webpages, such as Amazon and Facebook.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.12/browsernav-1.12.nvda-addon>


Tony’s enhancements

This add-on is an incubator for my experimental ideas, yet I believe
many of them might be quite handy for many users. In particular, this
time WordNav and Console toolkit mentioned above have graduated from
this incubator. 😊 Among new features that I added are QuickSearch
command, that allows to quickly find predefined text or regular
expression in text files. I personally find it useful for editing
markdown, because you can set the regular expression to search for
next/previous heading, and also for programming. Another new feature
allows to set system priority for NVDA process – this might improve
responsiveness of NVDA, especially when CPU load is high.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/

·Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon

<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements/releases/download/v1.8/tonysEnhancements-1.8.nvda-addon>


Other


NVDA Symbols

This is not an add-on, but rather a comprehensive (more or less) table
of unicode characters with their proper English names. In particular,
it includes math symbols (the ones that are not defined in NVDA),
Greek letters, technical symbols, various arrows, etc. If you’re
Greek, you would probably want to exclude Greek letters from this
dictionary. If you speak CJK languages, you would probably want to
exclude fixed-width punctuation page from that dictionary. This table
would need to be added manually to your symbols.dic file in NVDA user
config directory.

·Github: https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/
<https://github.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/>

·Download:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mltony/nvda-symbols/main/final.dic>

Let me know what you think!

Belated happy new year!

--Tony






Re: Automatic language switching

Tony Malykh
 

Things are a little confusing with automatic language switching. When your synth says it supports automatic language switching, that only means that it can switch if NVDA tells it to do so. However, NVDA almost never tells synths to do so, except perhaps for a few webpages, that have proper language attributes markup.

Try my add-on Tony's enhancements:

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys-enhancements

One of the features, is that it sends such a signal to synths based on character set. So you would be able to auto switch between say English and Arabic, or German and Arabic; but not between English and German. You would need to figure out a regular expression to capture all Arabic symbols though.

HTH

--Tony


On 1/12/2021 1:52 AM, Mohammed Alderweesh wrote:
Hello list,

I was wondering which speech synthesizer supports automatic language switching. I tried both the code factory and the Acapela addons, but I could not get them to work. is there any additional addon that needs to be installed?

Note: I checked the automatic language switching in the NVDA settings.

I am using NVDA 2020.3 and Windows 10, and I would like the automatic language switching to work for the following languages:
English
Arabic
German

Thank you for any input.
Mohammed


Re: Virtual Linux and NVDA?

bhanu computer
 

that's quite easy t ssh in to your vm
if you managed to install ubuntu or any distros, then, turn onn screen reader. or if you can't, just press alt+ctrl+t to open terminal in your vm. then, type in some commands
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install openssh-server
sudo ufw allow ssh
when ever you wan't to know what's going on, if you turned on screen reader, then great. if you can't, then use OCR of nvda and check what's going on
also, you need your IP address to connect by ssh
type in the following in your linux terminal on vm
ip route
then, do nvda OCR. here i recommend OCR if you have a screen reader in linux because you can copy the IP address to clipboard
you will find a text called src some where in thatresult. after that src, you will have some desimal number containing some numbers. copy that to your clipboard
then, download putty from http://putty.org
open the executable and paste in the IP address in your putty host name or IP address field. then leave every thing as default and click open. you w ill get a warning. simply click yes and enter your user name in login as and password in password field. then you will get a terminal. you can happyly use nvda here.
hope this helps

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:13 PM Damien Garwood <damien@...> wrote:
Hi,
When I tried to run a Linux-based VM, I got no speech, presumably
because NVDA doesn't have access to the machine. So I'm wondering, other
than through WSL, is it possible at all to run Linux and somehow get it
to interact nicely with NVDA?
Cheers.
Damien.







Re: Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Gene
 

Yes, but is there a way to have each chat message automatically read when it appears? I don't know but if NVDA doesn't do this, there may be an add-on that will do so.

I just checked and there is an add-on. But I don't know if it automatically reads messages. but it does allow you to turn on or off alerts about such messages. When you get an alert, you will know to check for a new one. That may be of some help.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/zoomEnhancements.en.html

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hello,
Alt-H opens the chat area. Here you can write to the room, to individuals and of course you can read the messages, Use Tab and Shift-Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2021 12:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hi all


Is it possible for NVDA to read the live Chat messages that meeting participants post during a zoom meeting, please? If so, how?


Andrew


Re: Using NVDA With Remote!

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

thomas I will call you later today to see what is going on.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas E Williamson, Senior" <pofm2016@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!


No mam, She can not hear, even when I am typing.
There is nothing!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

If you type something on your computer, does the target computer show it?
the target operator can hear it but you can't?


At 07:58 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Ok, I have successfully followed those instructions, from 2 different
computers, but I got the same results. Nothing, or no speech on my end of
the deal.
When I press f11, the fitst time, it says, local machine, and the second
time, it says, controlloint remote computer.
However, I can not navigate or hear, what the person is doing, except by
telephone.
Thanks!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

I am using NVDA with remote with a student. A couple of things:
Unlike with JAWS, where the controller assigns a key, The target computer
has to invite the remote first Then the controller signs in, using the key
the target gives him.
NVDA makes a two-toned sound when the connection is made.
then the controller presses f11, and NVDA says 'controlling remote
computer'.
And you're in business.

Holler if that's only clear as mud.




.At 04:34 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Yes Mam, I did that, but I can not hear anything.
I wonder, if there is an add on that I need to get.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

If you are set up to control the other computer, remember to press
f11 so you can see/hear it.
At 04:04 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Hello,
When I connect to another's person usin nvda remote, it does not read
on my end, what she hears, on her end?
What might be the problem, why I can not hear, while to he computer?
Thanks for your help!
Regards,
Thomas.
































Re: Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Alt-H opens the chat area. Here you can write to the room, to individuals and of course you can read the messages, Use Tab and Shift-Tab.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2021 12:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Readig Zoom meeting Chat

Hi all


Is it possible for NVDA to read the live Chat messages that meeting participants post during a zoom meeting, please? If so, how?


Andrew


Re: Using NVDA With Remote!

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Thomas

Your computers will connect to the remote session but unless each connection is configured properly, they will not communicate.  Your friend needs to ensure she has selected “allow this machine to be controlled” in the 2nd control of the Remote Connection dialog and you need to select the “Control another machine” option on your side of the connection.  Once connected, you use the f11 key to toggle between controlling your own machine and controlling your friends.  NVDA will  announce either “Controlling local machine”  or “Controlling remote machine” to indicate the machine your keyboard is controlling each time you press f11.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: 11 January 2021 22:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

 

Yes Mam, I did that, but I can not hear anything.

I wonder, if there is an add on that I need to get.

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne

Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

 

If you are set up to control the other computer, remember to press

f11 so you can see/hear it.

At 04:04 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:

>Hello,

>When I connect to another's person usin nvda remote, it does not read

>on my end, what she hears, on her end?

>What might be the problem, why I can not hear, while to he computer?

>Thanks for your help!

>Regards,

>Thomas.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Readig Zoom meeting Chat

AKH AKH
 

Hi all


Is it possible for NVDA to read the live Chat messages that meeting participants post during a zoom meeting, please? If so, how?


Andrew


Re: explanation

Gene
 

You can manually turn it on and off with the command NVDA key space bar.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 4:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] explanation



Hello listers



Can anyone explain to me how to switch the virtual cursor please?

Thanks in advance



Anthony


explanation

anthony borg
 

Hello listers

 

Can anyone explain to me how to switch the virtual cursor please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: Using NVDA With Remote!

Richard Kuzma
 

Good morning,
Seems to me that I had this issue a long while ago,
Are both machines running the latest version of nvda?
If not, maybe try updating them to current.
Hope thishelps

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas E
Williamson, Senior
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 10:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

I can hear the 2 beeps, that you talk about for connecting.
After that, nothing!
The only way that I can tell, what is going is, if we get on the telephone.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

If you type something on your computer, does the target computer show it?
the target operator can hear it but you can't?


At 07:58 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Ok, I have successfully followed those instructions, from 2 different
computers, but I got the same results. Nothing, or no speech on my end
of the deal.
When I press f11, the fitst time, it says, local machine, and the
second time, it says, controlloint remote computer.
However, I can not navigate or hear, what the person is doing, except
by telephone.
Thanks!



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

I am using NVDA with remote with a student. A couple of things:
Unlike with JAWS, where the controller assigns a key, The target
computer has to invite the remote first Then the controller signs in,
using the key the target gives him.
NVDA makes a two-toned sound when the connection is made.
then the controller presses f11, and NVDA says 'controlling remote
computer'.
And you're in business.

Holler if that's only clear as mud.




.At 04:34 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Yes Mam, I did that, but I can not hear anything.
I wonder, if there is an add on that I need to get.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 4:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA With Remote!

If you are set up to control the other computer, remember to press
f11 so you can see/hear it.
At 04:04 PM 1/11/2021, you wrote:
Hello,
When I connect to another's person usin nvda remote, it does not
read on my end, what she hears, on her end?
What might be the problem, why I can not hear, while to he computer?
Thanks for your help!
Regards,
Thomas.






















Automatic language switching

Mohammed Alderweesh
 

Hello list,

I was wondering which speech synthesizer supports automatic language switching. I tried both the code factory and the Acapela addons, but I could not get them to work. is there any additional addon that needs to be installed?

Note: I checked the automatic language switching in the NVDA settings.

I am using NVDA 2020.3 and Windows 10, and I would like the automatic language switching to work for the following languages:
English
Arabic
German

Thank you for any input.
Mohammed


Re: Will NVDA eventually use AI for better GUI recognition?

Sean Murphy
 

AI is not that smart as it is all dependent on the data used to train it. Thus all object recognition AI has someone who has applied a specific description to icons, a part of an image, etc. An example where this breaks is if the developer does not use standard icons to indicate navigation like backwards, forward, okay, etc. The user will get some description from the Object recognition and might not be meaningful due to the description provided. The term used in other countries for that description also might not be known:

Lets say an icon is used to indicate to the user that this is the delete button. The AI Object OCR detects this as a trash can. Outside the USA the term trash can is not used. So the user might not understand this is the delete button. The delete button is tied to some important bit of information. They press it to try and work out what it does. Oops, that information is gone. The object recognition then has to know what country your device is using and then use that’s countries term for a rubbish bin (Australian term for trash can). This again assumes this icon is a delete button. There is no guarantee the designer of that app will use internationally standard icons. Yes, there is an organisation that defines all the icons, emoticons, etc.

 

Outside simple standardised icons. Object recognition has a long way to go and requires far more research. I do have the hope it will be able to handle complex images like organisation graphs, etc.

 

Note, the above is just an example demonstrating AI is not a silver bullet. It does help, but I have seen situations on Apple where it has caused more problems than it fixes. Especially if the button, link, etc already has an accessible name which VoiceOver reads out. The Apple solution still gives you the object recognition icon which makes things to verbose. Before it is introduced into any screen reader. Real careful thinking needs to be taken into consideration how it is adopted. As I can see it becoming more of an annoyance than a solution.

 

 

I am not saying it should not be explored to see how it will help. One area is AI dynamically changing the UI of a program to make it easier for a keyboard user. This is one thing that people are already doing work on.

 

Sean

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Will NVDA eventually use AI for better GUI recognition?

 

So one thing I enjoy about VoiceOver on my iPhone is it has gotten really good at using UI to make otherwise inaccessible UI elements available to interact with. More than just simple OCR, it can ascertain the layout and make educated guesses about controls like buttons and tabs, greatly expanding the usability of apps that otherwise would be partially or totally inaccessible.

Is there any chance NVDA will eventually reach that level of sophistication? I know there are third party add-ons that attempt to bridge that gap for specific types of apps, for example the great Sibiac add-on which helps make certain music production apps and plugins accessible with NVDA, but it would be great to see these capabilities broadened and rolled into the core functionality of the product.

 

Thanks,

Luke

 

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