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Re: format announcements

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Here is the odd thing. emphasis was unchecked. Marked highlighted text was checked so I unchecked it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] format announcements


This is another example of a setting that should not be on by default. This is a rather new ability. NVDA will now announce emphasis indicators. I'm not sure what they are, but they are announced as you have described. Context is usually enough and it doesn't benefit listeners most of the time to hear this.

To turn it off, use control NVDA key d to open document formatting.
Tab to emphasis, uncheck it, then press enter. The dialog will close and you won't hear emphasis indicators any longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] format announcements


when I arrow down through an email it announces strong not strong at the beginning and ending of each line. How do I turn this off?
*********
family Times weekly Movie times



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Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
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Re: An accessible way to sign document with NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Morning:  Sorry I am a little late on this thread, however, I have had the same issue.  About a month ago I had to have sighted help to sign a document where an electrical signature was needed.  The document was a PDF file.  I tried with Adobe reader dc.  I could get to the line which was suppose to be below the text, but NVDA wouldn't read it.  I am insighter, so, the version number will different from most.  My version of windows was 2004 20277 at the time of this.  I haven't had any reason to try it with any newer versions.

Dave


On 1/12/2021 1:26 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello everyone,

Does anyone have experienced signing documents with NVDA?

I tried the sign document in Word but it does not seem to find the certificate.

In Adobe, I tried to use the sign document function, but when you activate the button, there is no feedback from NVDA.

If you have any hints except adding a jpg of your hand written signature, it would be helpful.

Best

Sylvie


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

What version of Studio and the SPL add-on are you using? If after installing SPL add-on and restarting NVDA, if SPL Settings does not appear, chances are that either you are using Studio 5.20 or earlier or something went wrong when loading the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph (current SPL add-on maintainer)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: am having problems typing while in an edit box when searching amazon

darkmad88@...
 

Hi! Sometimes i had issues while commenting videos on YouYube and nowhere else. It was caused by incorrect working of AdBlock Plus . Try to disabble addons in your browser, maybe it will help to locate and solve the problem. In my case, replacing AdBlock Plus with uBlockOrigin was a good solution. Good luck!


Re: format announcements

Gene
 

This is another example of a setting that should not be on by default. This is a rather new ability. NVDA will now announce emphasis indicators. I'm not sure what they are, but they are announced as you have described. Context is usually enough and it doesn't benefit listeners most of the time to hear this.

To turn it off, use control NVDA key d to open document formatting.
Tab to emphasis, uncheck it, then press enter. The dialog will close and you won't hear emphasis indicators any longer.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] format announcements


when I arrow down through an email it announces strong not strong at the beginning and ending of each line. How do I turn this off?
*********
family Times weekly Movie times



go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html
********


walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our devotionals on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus channel.


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Re: muting

Gene
 

NVDA won't tell you what combinations of fn key plus another key do and I don't know if the commands are carried out when you issue the commands when in the key describer. Since fn keys in combination with other keys never announce what action is being taken either with input help on or off and since what they do varies from computer to computer, I think it is a very bad idea to experiment with them. You need specific information about your computer.

Does input help describe keys like audio commands? Of course, it describes standard keys and commands but I don't have commands such as audio commands on keyboards I use.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] muting


Fn is a key found on most laptops and some desktop keyboards - it's basically a modifier key you hold down and press another key to perform an action (which a full size desktop computer probably has either a key or a button for). The most common is the F1 - F12 function keys often perform other duties such as adjusting brightness, volume or disabling a trackpad mouse on a laptop. On some keyboards you actually have to press Fn+function key to perform the regular function, which is frustrating - you can normally toggle that, but exactly how varies from keyboard to keyboard.

In terms of figuring out what keys do, if you press NVDA+1 (the 1 on the number row, above q) it puts NVDA in Input Help mode. Any key you press while in this mode won't do anything, but NVDA will tell you what it is, so it can be a way to find your way around a new keyboard without sighted help.

If you normally use F7 to mute NVDA, that's not an NVDA keystroke, but it's likely that is the key to mute your computer's sound. The keystroke to mute NVDA is NVDA+s, but if F7 works, that's achieves what you need. If it's not working right now, it might be that you've accidentally toggled your function key Fn lock.


On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:55 PM Neil Campbell <nrcampbell@bigpond.com> wrote:






Hello Brian



I have used F7 to toggle speech off and on before, but did not turn it off with F7 on this occasion, and F7 would not turn it back on. What is “Fn”? I have a new keyboard which came with a new desk top computer, and there are additional keys which I don’t know the function of. I will have to get a sighted person to tell me what they are.



Neil









From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] muting





Neil,

Mute is typically done through a dedicated key on some media keyboards, or through F6 or F7 (when used as media keys) on many laptops and some desktop keyboards. All it takes to trigger a mute by accident is Fn+F6 (or F7) and often Fn+F6 (or F7) will toggle it back off.

This is another of those instances where make and model information as well as whether any media keys function is enabled (and for a screen reader user I'd very, very strongly suspect it's not unless the machine is brand new and untweaked yet). Some makers do highly unconventional things as far as what function keys correspond to what media functions.

Gene's advice about using sndvol and getting a cheap external USB soundcard are both things to try and do.
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Re: strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Gene
 

I use Windows 7 but my comments may well apply to Windows 10 as well.

This problem may be related to another problem I've seen on occasion and I've seen one or two other people complain of. that is, repetition of text when using read to end on certain sites. When this happens to me, I copy the page to the clipboard, paste it into Notepad, and read the material I want. But that is hardly an ideal solution and keeps links from being seen and followed.

The behavior I observed on this page is that now and then a phrase will be skipped. I can go back and read by line and the phrase will be spoken as it should be. I saw this happen three times in the part of the article I read on this page. I had to read quite a bit of it after the first two skips near the beginning for it to happen a third time.

Also, a different problem I've seen a few people complain of and which happens to me is that NVDA will stop reading in a browser when using read to end on some pages. This appears to be some sort of reaction to one or more types of formatting because it isn't limited to any specifric site or page but may happen on this or that page on a certain site but not on others on the same site.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Okay, it's happened pretty consistantly with articles on this site.
This is just one, but look through her links and you'll probably find
others too. I also happen to find this topic quite fascinating!
https://yourkidstable.com/proprioceptive-activities/

On 1/14/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you give one or more page addresses, people can check them over time and

see if they have the same behavior intermittently. An intermittent problem

can still be investigated, it just may take longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Hi all,
Okay, this is probably one of the strangest problems I've seen.
Sometimes, NVDA will skip around websites that have lots of add
content, but not always, though I can't seem to make it work reliably.
Here's what happens:
1. I open several websites in Firefox, one in each window.
2. I try to read one of them using NVDA+Down Arrow.
3. As I'm reading them, NVDA either skips words or rereads words. I'd
post a link to where this is likely to happen, but I can't seem to
reproduce it reliably myself. Today I revisited the site I was having
this problem with yesterday, but it didn't do it there. It did,
however, do it on the site I first discovered it on a couple weeks ago
today.
Bob










Re: format announcements

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Try switching off Emphasis in the document formatting dialog NVDA+Control+d.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 15 January 2021 08:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] format announcements

 

when I arrow down through an email it announces strong not strong at the beginning and ending of each line. How do I turn this off?

*********
family Times weekly Movie times

 


go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

 

 


walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our devotionals on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus channel.

 


Add the following information in your TeamTalk
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TCP/UDP ports: 10333

 

entry name: walking in Victory
tab twice and press space on Add/update

 

 


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

Thomas E Williamson, Senior
 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


What is the best password manager to use with NVDA

John J. Boyer
 

Hello Everyone,

Please recommend the best password manager to use with NVDA. Please explain how to install it.

Thanks,
John

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Re: Reading chats in MS Teams

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello again,

I found a workaround to navigate from message to message in Teams with NVDA.

You should create a profile for Teams in NVDA.

  1. Open Teams.
  2. Open the profile settings with ctrl+NVDA+P
  3. Tab to new, or press alt+n.
  4. Use tab to choose which profile you want to use and press right arrow to select that the profile is related to Teams, you will hear profile name Teams, or something similar.
  5. Tab until the Ok button and press enter.
  6. Modify the profile in going to browse mode in pressing nvda+ctrl+B.
  7. I unchecked all checkboxes related to forms mode and automatically switching. May be you can test in checking and unchecking the three boxes and see if something changes. “automatic focus mode for caret movement”, “automatic focus mode for focus changes” and “automatically set system focus to focusable elements” and Press Ok.
  8. When you want to write in the chat, you will have to activate forms mode in pressing nvda+space and when you want to read the chat messages, go out of the forms mode manually with the same shortcut.

I hope this will also work for you.

Best

Sylvie

 

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sylvie Duchateau via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 15 janvier 2021 09:48
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] Reading chats in MS Teams

 

Hello,

I just tested in a chat on MS Teams.

The problem is that NVDA switches automatically in forms mode when you are in the chat.

So when you type 4, you cannot get to the message heading.

You need to return to browse mode and type 4 or h.

The headings structure is still there but Microsoft seems to have implemented automatically switching in forms mode.

I don’t know why.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Vaibhav Saraf via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 15 janvier 2021 07:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] Reading chats in MS Teams

 

Hi Community,

 

When on MS Teams I used to toggle to browse mode and read all the chats using Shift + 4 or just 4 as all the chats used to be heading level 4. In an update done around last week, MS Teams no longer marks chats as H4. I need to arrow up/down to read the chats which is a very inconvenient and slow method to do. The focus mode did not work really well for me as there I do not have the capability to read the chat word by word or letter by letter if I want to.

 

Is there a better way to read the chats now?


Thanks,

Vaibhav

 


Re: Reading chats in MS Teams

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi,

I am afraid your Teams is not updated to the latest one. Even after returning to browse mode I cannot find chats in H4.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 14:17, Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...> wrote:

Hello,

I just tested in a chat on MS Teams.

The problem is that NVDA switches automatically in forms mode when you are in the chat.

So when you type 4, you cannot get to the message heading.

You need to return to browse mode and type 4 or h.

The headings structure is still there but Microsoft seems to have implemented automatically switching in forms mode.

I don’t know why.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Vaibhav Saraf via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 15 janvier 2021 07:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] Reading chats in MS Teams

 

Hi Community,

 

When on MS Teams I used to toggle to browse mode and read all the chats using Shift + 4 or just 4 as all the chats used to be heading level 4. In an update done around last week, MS Teams no longer marks chats as H4. I need to arrow up/down to read the chats which is a very inconvenient and slow method to do. The focus mode did not work really well for me as there I do not have the capability to read the chat word by word or letter by letter if I want to.

 

Is there a better way to read the chats now?


Thanks,

Vaibhav

 


Re: Reading chats in MS Teams

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,

I just tested in a chat on MS Teams.

The problem is that NVDA switches automatically in forms mode when you are in the chat.

So when you type 4, you cannot get to the message heading.

You need to return to browse mode and type 4 or h.

The headings structure is still there but Microsoft seems to have implemented automatically switching in forms mode.

I don’t know why.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Vaibhav Saraf via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 15 janvier 2021 07:22
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] Reading chats in MS Teams

 

Hi Community,

 

When on MS Teams I used to toggle to browse mode and read all the chats using Shift + 4 or just 4 as all the chats used to be heading level 4. In an update done around last week, MS Teams no longer marks chats as H4. I need to arrow up/down to read the chats which is a very inconvenient and slow method to do. The focus mode did not work really well for me as there I do not have the capability to read the chat word by word or letter by letter if I want to.

 

Is there a better way to read the chats now?


Thanks,

Vaibhav

 


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


open NVDA press p for preferences
up arrow to spl settings and enter
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


format announcements

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

when I arrow down through an email it announces strong not strong at the beginning and ending of each line. How do I turn this off?
*********
family Times weekly Movie times
 

go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.
 
 

walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our devotionals on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus channel.
 

Add the following information in your TeamTalk
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TCP/UDP ports: 10333
 
entry name: walking in Victory
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Re: ending meetings in ms teams

Sharad Koirala
 

thank u.

On 1/15/21, Vaibhav Saraf <vaibhav.s.acc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Yes you should be in focus mode, but the mode is auto when you tab into the
list and the shortcut Ctrl + Shift +B is the best bet to end the meeting.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 11:10, BlindEducator <blindeducator@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

When in a meeting on MSTeams. Just press Ctrl+shift+b to end a meeting.
Other then that, you can tab or shift+tab until you get to the control
bar.
From there, just left or right arrow to move through your options. You
may
need to toggle between browse and focus modes. I am not in front of my
computer to double check. But one will allow you to arrow around and the
other won’t. You want to arrow to the far right to get to the hang up
button to select let. Hope this helps.









--
Dr. Sharad Koirala
Lecturer
Department of Community Medicine
Gandaki Medical College, Pokhara, Nepal


Re: muting

Quentin Christensen
 

Fn is a key found on most laptops and some desktop keyboards - it's basically a modifier key you hold down and press another key to perform an action (which a full size desktop computer probably has either a key or a button for).  The most common is the F1 - F12 function keys often perform other duties such as adjusting brightness, volume or disabling a trackpad mouse on a laptop.  On some keyboards you actually have to press Fn+function key to perform the regular function, which is frustrating - you can normally toggle that, but exactly how varies from keyboard to keyboard.

In terms of figuring out what keys do, if you press NVDA+1 (the 1 on the number row, above q) it puts NVDA in Input Help mode.  Any key you press while in this mode won't do anything, but NVDA will tell you what it is, so it can be a way to find your way around a new keyboard without sighted help.

If you normally use F7 to mute NVDA, that's not an NVDA keystroke, but it's likely that is the key to mute your computer's sound.  The keystroke to mute NVDA is NVDA+s, but if F7 works, that's achieves what you need.  If it's not working right now, it might be that you've accidentally toggled your function key Fn lock.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:55 PM Neil Campbell <nrcampbell@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Brian

 

I have used F7 to toggle speech off and on before, but did not turn it off with F7 on this occasion, and F7 would not turn it back on.  What is “Fn”?  I have a new keyboard which came with a new desk top computer, and there are additional keys which I don’t know the function of.  I will have to get a sighted person to tell me what they are. 

 

Neil

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] muting

 

Neil,

          Mute is typically done through a dedicated key on some media keyboards, or through F6 or F7 (when used as media keys) on many laptops and some desktop keyboards.  All it takes to trigger a mute by accident is Fn+F6 (or F7) and often Fn+F6 (or F7) will toggle it back off.

           This is another of those instances where make and model information as well as whether any media keys function is enabled (and for a screen reader user I'd very, very strongly suspect it's not unless the machine is brand new and untweaked yet).  Some makers do highly unconventional things as far as what function keys correspond to what media functions.

            Gene's advice about using sndvol and getting a cheap external USB soundcard are both things to try and do.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: muting

Neil Campbell <nrcampbell@...>
 

 

 

Hello Brian

 

I have used F7 to toggle speech off and on before, but did not turn it off with F7 on this occasion, and F7 would not turn it back on.  What is “Fn”?  I have a new keyboard which came with a new desk top computer, and there are additional keys which I don’t know the function of.  I will have to get a sighted person to tell me what they are. 

 

Neil

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, 11 January 2021 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] muting

 

Neil,

          Mute is typically done through a dedicated key on some media keyboards, or through F6 or F7 (when used as media keys) on many laptops and some desktop keyboards.  All it takes to trigger a mute by accident is Fn+F6 (or F7) and often Fn+F6 (or F7) will toggle it back off.

           This is another of those instances where make and model information as well as whether any media keys function is enabled (and for a screen reader user I'd very, very strongly suspect it's not unless the machine is brand new and untweaked yet).  Some makers do highly unconventional things as far as what function keys correspond to what media functions.

            Gene's advice about using sndvol and getting a cheap external USB soundcard are both things to try and do.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Reading chats in MS Teams

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi Community,

When on MS Teams I used to toggle to browse mode and read all the chats using Shift + 4 or just 4 as all the chats used to be heading level 4. In an update done around last week, MS Teams no longer marks chats as H4. I need to arrow up/down to read the chats which is a very inconvenient and slow method to do. The focus mode did not work really well for me as there I do not have the capability to read the chat word by word or letter by letter if I want to.

Is there a better way to read the chats now?

Thanks,
Vaibhav


Re: ending meetings in ms teams

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi,

Yes you should be in focus mode, but the mode is auto when you tab into the list and the shortcut Ctrl + Shift +B is the best bet to end the meeting.

Thanks,
Vaibhav


On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 11:10, BlindEducator <blindeducator@...> wrote:
Hi,

When in a meeting on MSTeams. Just press Ctrl+shift+b to end a meeting. Other then that, you can tab or shift+tab until you get to the control bar. From there, just left or right arrow to move through your options. You may need to toggle between browse and focus modes. I am not in front of my computer to double check. But one will allow you to arrow around and the other won’t. You want to arrow to the far right to get to the hang up button to select let. Hope this helps.





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