Re: beta 3 and closing programs
Dave Grossoehme
Good Afternoon: If Thunder Bird has been running and you press the alt + f4 and this silenece. Then Press the Alt + t to see what is running and you hear Thunder Bird, then press the application key and arrow down to refresh in windows 10. Then press the alt + f4 to close it out. The other answer is yes there can be applications running in the background and they won't be shown on the taskbar. It is like the old answer of don't assume anything in windows. It's like they are hidden from the screen readers of the taskbar.
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Dave
On 1/13/2021 2:52 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if a program can still have processes running in the background and not show up in the task manager list of running programs. But if you look in the processes part of the dialog and don't show the process for Thunderbird, as far as I know it isn't running. I don't know what you are describing in terms of where you use the appliccations key and where you use the refresh command.
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Re: searching in Thunderbird email app
I can, and will, get into this on the Chat Subgroup if you open a new topic there and, as part of that, describe what you want to be seeing after you do a search (in general terms).
I suspect that you're wanting a list of messages just like you'd have in your inbox, but limited to those that match the search. In which case, you'd need to activate the Show results as list control on the initial results page. You may also wish to switch the sort by from relevance (default) to date before doing so, if you're interested in date sorted message order. That's all I'll say here, as none of this is directly related to NVDA but to Thunderbird. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Some topic in the main group indicate that they're from chat
Group Owner mail is not sent other than by using the Owner e-mail address: nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
I'd need examples, as I can't find any instances in the archive of anything recent. The following addresses are those most commonly used to interact with the NVDA Main Group:
To join: nvda+subscribe@nvda.groups.io To post: nvda@nvda.groups.io To unsubscribe: nvda+unsubscribe@nvda.groups.io To receive a message containing the group description, and a list of these commands: nvda+help@nvda.groups.io To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web): nvda+nomail@nvda.groups.io This can also be used to put a vacation stop on group messages, then use one of the subsequently noted addresses to resume delivery in the format of your choice. To receive each group message individually: nvda+single@nvda.groups.io This is the default delivery unless you send a message to one of the addresses that follows. To receive group messages in an HTML formatted digests: nvda+fulldigest@nvda.groups.io To receive group messages in a plain text digest: nvda+digest@nvda.groups.io To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages: nvda+summary@nvda,groups.io To receive only special messages: nvda+special@nvda.groups.io To contact the group owner(s): nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io --Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Saving the location of a button on a particular webpage
Tony Malykh
Try BrowserNav add-on. One of the features is BrowserMarks - you can specify any text, in particular, the text of the button you're interested in. Then you can jump to that button by pressing J or Shift+J. HTH --Tony
On 1/18/2021 12:37 AM, Akshaya
Choudhary wrote:
Hello everyone,
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Re: Saving the location of a button on a particular webpage
Akshaya Choudhary
Oh yes! Let me try it out.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: searching in Thunderbird email app
Gene
When you open search, the defaultis to search subject. You can tab to a combo box where you change what field will be searched in. Tab further to an edit field where you type what you want to search for, then press enter.
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I haven't played with search enough to see how to search more than one field at once. I would think you can, but I don't know how it is done. I suspect you are working in the wrong fields. Gene
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From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 12:55 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] searching in Thunderbird email app Well, it does act differently but it still gives me the whole email list and not just the results list. I am obviously doing something wrong. I guess I'll just go back to doing my searches via the GMail web interface. Thanks Gene, Dan Beaver On 1/18/2021 1:31 PM, Dan Beaver via groups.io wrote: Well, I have been using the search field that is on the screen. I hadn't tried using the ctrl+f keystroke. When I use the search field then try to tab to the list I get the full list of emails not the search results. I will try the ctrl+f keystroke and see if that behaves differently. Dan Beaver On 1/18/2021 1:16 PM, Gene wrote: How are you searching? If you are using control shift f to open search and searching in that way, once you have done the search and the search is finished, tab twice to the list. Gene -----Original Message----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 12:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] searching in Thunderbird email app How do you search for emails in TB? I have tried many times but I can never figure out how to look at a list of the resulting emails. I am assuming it is something special I have to do using NVDA but I could be very wrong about this. Any help would very much be appreciated. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Some topic in the main group indicate that they're from chat
Louise Pfau
Hi. It looks like I've received a couple of messages from this group that indicate that they're from the chat subgroup, because the word [chat] also appears in the subject line. I'm not sure of the titles off the top of my head. I am not subscribed to the chat subgroup, so I don't get messages from it. I'm not certain who I should've contacted about this issue, but when you post a new topic on the web interface, it goes to the entire group. I couldn't find a button to send it to the group owner. I use the web interface rather than posting through E-mail.
Thanks, Louise
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Re: searching in Thunderbird email app
Dan Beaver
Well, it does act differently but it still gives me the whole email list and not just the results list. I am obviously doing something wrong. I guess I'll just go back to doing my searches via the GMail web interface.
Thanks Gene,
Dan Beaver On 1/18/2021 1:31 PM, Dan Beaver via
groups.io wrote:
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Re: searching in Thunderbird email app
Dan Beaver
Well, I have been using the search field that is on the screen. I hadn't tried using the ctrl+f keystroke. When I use the search field then try to tab to the list I get the full list of emails not the search results.
I will try the ctrl+f keystroke and see if that behaves differently.
Dan Beaver On 1/18/2021 1:16 PM, Gene wrote:
How are you searching? If you are using control shift f to open search and searching in that way, once you have done the search and the search is finished, tab twice to the list. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: searching in Thunderbird email app
Gene
How are you searching? If you are using control shift f to open search and searching in that way, once you have done the search and the search is finished, tab twice to the list.
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From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 12:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] searching in Thunderbird email app How do you search for emails in TB? I have tried many times but I can never figure out how to look at a list of the resulting emails. I am assuming it is something special I have to do using NVDA but I could be very wrong about this. Any help would very much be appreciated. -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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searching in Thunderbird email app
Dan Beaver
How do you search for emails in TB? I
have tried many times but I can never figure out how to look at
a list of the resulting emails. I am assuming it is something
special I have to do using NVDA but I could be very wrong about
this.
Any help would very much be appreciated.
-- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: What is the best password manager to use with NVDA
hello.
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i think that keypass be the best option. i dont use such programs and dont have much informations about it.
On 1/15/21, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> wrote:
Hello Everyone, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Is anyone using a password manager?
I use LastPass. It is very accessible.
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On Jan 16, 2021, at 4:35 AM, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org> wrote:
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Re: Saving the location of a button on a particular webpage
The only thing I know of that you could use to support that kind of functionality is the Golden Cursor Add-On.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Excel 2016: Formulas
Louis Maher
Hello Pele,
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Is it possible to use Office 365 for $99 a year? I do not have any further information. Regards Louis Maher Phone: 713-444-7838 E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 3:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel 2016: Formulas Hi Louise Thank you for suggesting unchecking the "allow editing directly in cells". Unfortunately, it is already unchecked. Is there anything I can trying changing in NVDA? Pele
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Re: Excel 2016: Formulas
Pele West
Hi Louise
Thank you for suggesting unchecking the "allow editing directly in cells". Unfortunately, it is already unchecked. Is there anything I can trying changing in NVDA? Pele
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Saving the location of a button on a particular webpage
Akshaya Choudhary
Hello everyone,
Is there a way to save or bookmark the location of a particular button on a webpage, like bookmarking the present now button in google meet? -- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: Tony's add-ons: new and updated
Akshaya Choudhary
Thank you, Tony. These are really helpful add-ons.
A very happpy new year to you too! -- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: Windows 10 native Mail app
Luke Robinett
Hi Joseph. Thanks for breaking that down for us. That helps me understand the rationale for tackling Windows updates with the essentials add-on vs trying to bake it all into the main code.
Thanks, Luke
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 1:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 native Mail app
Hi, Parts of Windows 10 App Essentials are being rolled into NVDA Core at the moment. NVDA 2020.4 includes a notable contribution from this add-on, namely support for modern Windows 10 Calculator. I noted “parts of the add-on” because of the way Windows 10 and its apps are developed: Windows 10 is a service, therefore changes happen frequently. This necessitates keeping up with Windows 10 and its apps on an ongoing basis – a bit close to real-time, but not quite. What makes it hard is that changes made to Windows 10 and apps can be reversed at any moment, therefore causing developers to scramble to undo changes or put compatibility layer in place. Add to the fact that NVDA stable releases happen in a matter of months (typically two to three months), and because some users install new Windows 10 development builds on a weekly basis, by the time a new NVDA stable version comes out, what NVDA knows about Windows 10 would be really out of date. Therefore a safer approach is letting Windows 10 App Essentials add-on fill the gap until certain Windows 10 features are announced as being made available to the general public, and then submit changes from the add-on to NVDA Core so it can be included in the next NVDA stable release. This is the reason why, at least once a month or two, you’ll get Windows 10 App Essentials update announcement. To illustrate what I’m saying, here’s the procedure I employ when developing Windows 10 App Essentials add-on:
In other words, these days Windows 10 App Essentials add-on has become a testing platform for features that will be included in NVDA Core given stability over time. This is not limited to WinTenApps at all – you may have noticed that parts of other add-ons made their way into NVDA Core, the biggest change planned being incorporating Add-on Updater into NVDA Core in the future (a different topic). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Out of curiosity, if an add-on is needed to have reliable access to what are considered essential Windows apps, I just gotta ask… Why not just roll that into the core functionality of NVDA?
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Re: Reading chats in MS Teams
Luke Robinett
OK, got it. Here are a couple suggestions: For accessing the link in a message, press enter on the message and then press tab twice. This should place focus on the link. To review a message word by word or character by character, use the object review keys (with numlock turned off): Numpad 7 and 9 to move between lines Numpad 4 and 6 to move between words Numpad 1 and 3 to move by character To copy text, position the review cursor at the desired start point and press NVDA + F9. Next position the review cursor at the end of the text you want to copy and press NVDA + F10 twice rapidly. This copies it to the clipboard.
Hope this helps, Luke
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vaibhav Saraf
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 7:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading chats in MS Teams
Hi,
This experience works fine for me. But the problem is that when I go through the messages in forms mode I cannot make out the chat word by word or letter by letter if I have difficulty understanding the message, or sometimes it can be a link and I would copy it using Ctrl + Shift + right arrow.
Earlier Teams was treating all the messages as H4, so navigation was quite easy even in browse mode, and allowing me to go letter by letter and stuff.
Thanks, Vaibhav
On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 01:17, Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...> wrote:
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