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Re: still some carricter help

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

One more small question when I'm reading using the arrow keys I here NVDA say for example, the dog barked dot
Is there anyway for NVDA not to read the dots wich are the periods?I feel so stupid, thank you so much now everything works as it should.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey [mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net]
Sent: March 14, 2016 10:50 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] still some carricter help

Don't hold NVDA down when pressing 1.
The reason NVDA shift z and NVDA arrows and such aren't working, I
suspect, is because you're using the desktop keyboard layout. Please do
the following:
1. Go to the NVDA menu, Preferences, Keyboard, or press CTRL+NVDA+k.
2. Select laptop in the Keyboard layout combo box, then press enter.
Does it work now?

On 3/14/2016 7:43 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
These commands are not working in Microsoft word 2013 in the proofing
tool bar with nvda 16.1



*From:*Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
*Sent:* March 14, 2016 10:40 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] still some carricter help



I don't know how different versions of Microsoft Word display such
material. It used to be displayed in a list and you could not left and
right arrow to spell just as you can't in a list of file and folder
names. Use numpad 1 to move backward and numpad 3 to move forward.
These are screen review commands. I don't know if you would benefit
from using screen review commands anywhere else but you might benefit
from learning basic commands.

Numpad 1 is move back to and read previous character. 2 is read current
character. 3 is move to and read next character.

Numpad 4 5 and 6 are the same for word.

7 8 and 9 are the same for line.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Zoe Fiogkos <mailto:fiogkos@rogers.com>

*Sent:*Monday, March 14, 2016 9:05 PM

*To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] still some carricter help



Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?



Re: still some carricter help

Gene
 

I don't know why you are getting those results.  What you are hearing doesn't match how NVDA is supposed to work.  If you hold the numpad insert and press numpad 1, you should hear something about no more review modes if you are in the last mode you can move back to.  But if the numpad insert were being held or were stuck on, you shouldn't be able to use f5 to spell the current word.  That command requires that numpad insert not be on. 
 
As I said, I don't know what the problem is but why not try a portable copy either of the current version of NVDA or of the last version that worked properly?  It's always a good idea to have a portable version of an earlier version of NVDA that worked properly on your machine.  Every time you upgrade, there is a risk of something not working properly and if you keep a portable version that worked properly, you can run it when you need it and try to solve the problem with the new version of NVDA if you wish but still be able to do what you want.
 
I don't know if this is an NVEDA problem or something else.  Testing with a portable version of the last version of NVDA that worked properly will tell you.  If it works properly, it's an NVDA problem and you may want to try completely uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA.  If the portable version no longer works properly, then your problem is something else.
 
Someone else will tell you how to completely uninstall NVDA if you need to know.  I've never done it and don't have the description that has been given on the list on my computer.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] still some carricter help

I don't know how different versions of Microsoft Word display such material.  It used to be displayed in a list and you could not left and right arrow to spell just as you can't in a list of file and folder names.  Use numpad 1 to move backward and numpad 3 to move forward.  These are screen review commands.  I don't know if you would benefit from using screen review commands anywhere else but you might benefit from learning basic commands. 
Numpad 1 is move back to and read previous character.  2 is read current character.  3 is move to and read next character.
Numpad 4 5 and 6 are the same for word.
7 8 and 9 are the same for line. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:05 PM
Subject: [nvda] still some carricter help

Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?




Re: still some carricter help

Tyler Spivey
 

Don't hold NVDA down when pressing 1.
The reason NVDA shift z and NVDA arrows and such aren't working, I
suspect, is because you're using the desktop keyboard layout. Please do
the following:
1. Go to the NVDA menu, Preferences, Keyboard, or press CTRL+NVDA+k.
2. Select laptop in the Keyboard layout combo box, then press enter.
Does it work now?

On 3/14/2016 7:43 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
These commands are not working in Microsoft word 2013 in the proofing
tool bar with nvda 16.1



*From:*Gene [mailto:gsasner@ripco.com]
*Sent:* March 14, 2016 10:40 PM
*To:* nvda@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] still some carricter help



I don't know how different versions of Microsoft Word display such
material. It used to be displayed in a list and you could not left and
right arrow to spell just as you can't in a list of file and folder
names. Use numpad 1 to move backward and numpad 3 to move forward.
These are screen review commands. I don't know if you would benefit
from using screen review commands anywhere else but you might benefit
from learning basic commands.

Numpad 1 is move back to and read previous character. 2 is read current
character. 3 is move to and read next character.

Numpad 4 5 and 6 are the same for word.

7 8 and 9 are the same for line.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Zoe Fiogkos <mailto:fiogkos@rogers.com>

*Sent:*Monday, March 14, 2016 9:05 PM

*To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] still some carricter help



Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?



Re: still some carricter help

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

These commands are not working in Microsoft word 2013 in the proofing tool bar with nvda 16.1

 

From: Gene [mailto:gsasner@...]
Sent: March 14, 2016 10:40 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] still some carricter help

 

I don't know how different versions of Microsoft Word display such material.  It used to be displayed in a list and you could not left and right arrow to spell just as you can't in a list of file and folder names.  Use numpad 1 to move backward and numpad 3 to move forward.  These are screen review commands.  I don't know if you would benefit from using screen review commands anywhere else but you might benefit from learning basic commands. 

Numpad 1 is move back to and read previous character.  2 is read current character.  3 is move to and read next character.

Numpad 4 5 and 6 are the same for word.

7 8 and 9 are the same for line. 

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:05 PM

Subject: [nvda] still some carricter help

 

Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?



Re: still some carricter help

Gene
 

I don't know how different versions of Microsoft Word display such material.  It used to be displayed in a list and you could not left and right arrow to spell just as you can't in a list of file and folder names.  Use numpad 1 to move backward and numpad 3 to move forward.  These are screen review commands.  I don't know if you would benefit from using screen review commands anywhere else but you might benefit from learning basic commands. 
Numpad 1 is move back to and read previous character.  2 is read current character.  3 is move to and read next character.
Numpad 4 5 and 6 are the same for word.
7 8 and 9 are the same for line. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:05 PM
Subject: [nvda] still some carricter help

Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?




Re: still some carricter help

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Numpad one says no previous review mode. Numpad 2 says no objects, numpad 3
says absolutely nothing. I tried numpad arrow twice quickly and it spells
the word but again doesn't let me arrow through the word by carricter. Do
you know why the capslock arrow key doesn't work like it did in NVDA 15?
Also in NVDA 16.1 doesn't the NVDA shift z work? Have they changed the key
sequence?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Spivey [mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net]
Sent: March 14, 2016 10:07 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] still some carricter help

What does numpad 1, 2 and 3 do?
On 3/14/2016 7:05 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?




Joslee's archive of Tek Talk presentatoin on NvDA 2016.1 and NvDACon 2016 now posted

 

Hi all,

Thank you for those who came to today’s Tek Talk presentation. Joslee’s (mine) archive of this presentation is now available:

http://nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%20Tek%20Talk%20Presentation%2020160314.mp3

Once the official archive from Accessible World becomes available, Joslee’s archive will be taken down.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: still some carricter help

Tyler Spivey
 

What does numpad 1, 2 and 3 do?

On 3/14/2016 7:05 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?




still some carricter help

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Thanks guys the numpad 5 does spell out the word, but it doesn't let me
arrow through the word carricter by carricter, any other options?


Re: the talk tonight

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Scott, Joseph and others,
It was great fun for me too to be a part of the recent Accessible
World Techtalk presentation, and am thankful to Joseph for the same.
Just like this recent Techtalk event related to NVDA, I would
encourage everyone to participate in this, and future events,
including the NVDACon International 2016, of course. Looking forward
to seeing you out there, Scott, and many others.
Thanks.

On 3/15/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and
it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during one
of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V



--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


the talk tonight

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello Joseph and all.
First of all I wanted to say thanks Joseph, that was fun to listen to.
I will have to reinstall the plugin though because I tried to talk and it didn't work i think.
But, thanks again.
Maybe some day I'll actually get to talk to you all in voice during one of these things.

I'm planning to be there during at least some of the nvda con sessions.
Sounds like it'll be fun.

Well, that is all for now.

Talk to you all later.

Scott V


Re: reading by carricter help

Chris Mullins
 

Try a double tap on the 5 key of the number keypad.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@rogers.com]
Sent: 14 March 2016 19:57
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading by carricter help

Hi guys I asked this question a while back and you guys gave me great
instructions. On my windows 7 laptop running NVDA version 15 point something
They work just fine.
On my windows laptop running NVDA second last version to date in word 2013 I
click f7 to do a spell check, I here NVDA say proofing tool bar, bbut it
doesn't announce the miss spelled word. It goes straight to the ignore
button. Second problem is when I find my list of suggestions I arrow up and
down and when I reach the word I want, I want NVDA to spell it for me
carricter by carricter. I tried holding the capslock key down and hitting my
left arrow key but it's not working.
Please help
Thanks in advanced
Zoe


reading by carricter help

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi guys I asked this question a while back and you guys gave me great
instructions. On my windows 7 laptop running NVDA version 15 point something
They work just fine.
On my windows laptop running NVDA second last version to date in word 2013 I
click f7 to do a spell check, I here NVDA say proofing tool bar, bbut it
doesn't announce the miss spelled word. It goes straight to the ignore
button. Second problem is when I find my list of suggestions I arrow up and
down and when I reach the word I want, I want NVDA to spell it for me
carricter by carricter. I tried holding the capslock key down and hitting my
left arrow key but it's not working.
Please help
Thanks in advanced
Zoe


CBT Podcast: All About Viewing And Changing NVDA Keyboard Commands

Bhavya shah
 

All About Viewing And Changing NVDA Keyboard Commands
Alex Hiironen On March 13, 2016
In this podcast, Alex describes the NVDA gestures dialog and remapping
or adding keystrokes for NVDA’s commands.
Source: https://www.coolblindtech.com/viewing-changing-nvda-keyboard-commands/

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: n v d a name change

 

Hi,
Short answer: no. I'll post the long answer after Tek Talk tonight (and will mention this during the presentation).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 10:49 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] n v d a name change


Are there plans to make n v d a work with the linux desktop or Emacs desktop environment?
Pete


Re: n v d a name change

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Are there plans to make n v d a work with the linux desktop or Emacs desktop environment?
Pete


language packs for office 2013

zoe fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Hi guys, here's my question for the day.
I want to be able to spell check in Microsoft word 2013, how can I add
proofing tools for another language. I did try downloading something from
office.com but when I run it, it tells me that there are no files installed
on this pc to change.
Any ideas?


focus on window with nvda

William Brandes <williambrandes@...>
 

hi. question. how to focus on a window that pops up when clicking on
some link in the main window?

i find this often when i login to a website. or, also when working
with the kindle book downloader in my kindle management on amazon.

in both cases after clicking on a link another window pops up which i
can find rummaging around with a mouse, but, must be a way to do this
with just a keyboard.

any help would be appreciated ... william


Re: nvda and microsoft access:

Chris Mullins
 

I've used ms Access in SqlView to create tables and run queries, so a blind person can get some use from the database side, it's just the design tools that cause problems.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: 14 March 2016 08:20
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:

All very true. Indeed many years ago I recall Dolphin actually asking Microsoft why this particular piece of Office was not easy to cater for and why they did not make it better for screenreader users. As far as I recall the reply was all pretty much like a politician answering the question they wanted, not the one asked.

Its odd that Microsoft have not been able even after all this time, to improve they database application on the access front. Rather an ironic choice of name for an inaccessible product.
In the end our database for the talking newspaper was written with screenreaders in mind, but the cursoring around edit fields never worked properly.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:


Besides actually working with Access's own design interface, there are
also other alternatives when it comes to just working with data
structures, if that's all you're interested in?

I haven't done anything with MSAccess for quite a while, but, I work with
various other forms of database engines, but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-14 7:37 AM, HBotma wrote:
Hi Group

In my experience with both JAWS 12 and JAWS 14 Access 2010 is not very
accessdible for blind people. There are many things that JAWS doesn't
read which it used to read in JAWS 6 and Access 2003. For instance,
setting up a design view has to be done by memory, because the
headings and fields are not read.

From my limitted experience with NVDA, after a little bit of
experimentation, it reads more in the design view and the table than
JAWS did, although there is room for improvement. Queries, forms and
reports haven't been accessible since Office 2003 and JAWS 6 or 7 - in
fact, forms and reports have been rather difficult for blind people
since before Access 2003. Note that I haven't tried setting up forms,
queries or reports in Access 2010 yet, so I don't know how they
compare, but it would help if NVDA would read the field headings in
Access as the row and column headings in Excel and Word.

On 3/12/16, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kenny,



I can't help you there. I have tried creating tables and some manual
queries
and
they did work in access 2013.



Pranav



From: Kenny Peyattt jr. [mailto:p.wildcat1234@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:



I am using access 2010. I found a ticket on github and it was still
open,
and
was wondering what work if any needs to be done to make access work
better
with
nvda.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



From: Pranav Lal [mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:25 PM
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:



Hi Kenny,



Which version of Microsoft Access are you using?



Pranav







Re: nvda and microsoft access:

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

All very true. Indeed many years ago I recall Dolphin actually asking Microsoft why this particular piece of Office was not easy to cater for and why they did not make it better for screenreader users. As far as I recall the reply was all pretty much like a politician answering the question they wanted, not the one asked.

Its odd that Microsoft have not been able even after all this time, to improve they database application on the access front. Rather an ironic choice of name for an inaccessible product.
In the end our database for the talking newspaper was written with screenreaders in mind, but the cursoring around edit fields never worked properly.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:


Besides actually working with Access's own design interface, there are also other alternatives when it comes to just working with data structures, if that's all you're interested in?

I haven't done anything with MSAccess for quite a while, but, I work with various other forms of database engines, but anyway.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-14 7:37 AM, HBotma wrote:
Hi Group

In my experience with both JAWS 12 and JAWS 14 Access 2010 is not very
accessdible for blind people. There are many things that JAWS doesn't
read which it used to read in JAWS 6 and Access 2003. For instance,
setting up a design view has to be done by memory, because the
headings and fields are not read.

From my limitted experience with NVDA, after a little bit of
experimentation, it reads more in the design view and the table than
JAWS did, although there is room for improvement. Queries, forms and
reports haven't been accessible since Office 2003 and JAWS 6 or 7 - in
fact, forms and reports have been rather difficult for blind people
since before Access 2003. Note that I haven't tried setting up forms,
queries or reports in Access 2010 yet, so I don't know how they
compare, but it would help if NVDA would read the field headings in
Access as the row and column headings in Excel and Word.

On 3/12/16, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kenny,



I can't help you there. I have tried creating tables and some manual queries
and
they did work in access 2013.



Pranav



From: Kenny Peyattt jr. [mailto:p.wildcat1234@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:54 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:



I am using access 2010. I found a ticket on github and it was still open,
and
was wondering what work if any needs to be done to make access work better
with
nvda.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



From: Pranav Lal [mailto:pranav.lal@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:25 PM
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and microsoft access:



Hi Kenny,



Which version of Microsoft Access are you using?



Pranav