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Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

Gene
 

I should add that I'm not using recent versions. I wrote my comment because I couldn't tell where you were looking. But my guess is that it isn't there since you used it in the past.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 3:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Where are you looking? Check for updates isn't on the main menu. Its where
such things usually are, in the help submenu.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

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Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

Gene
 

Where are you looking? Check for updates isn't on the main menu. Its where such things usually are, in the help submenu.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from mack they have a monthly update called in process. it doesn't take long to read and it keeps readers informed of the next release progress. when everyone gets the email that says "in process is out" be sure and read it.


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Btw, the RC version was released today, and unless any critical bugs are
found, this will be identical to the final one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


Re: When will the next NVDA be released?

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi,
Recently was a string freeze, and it's in the release stage.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] When will the next NVDA be released?

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is
available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost


When will the next NVDA be released?

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

It's been a long time since there was an official release of NVDA that is available with the Check for Updates on the NVDA menu. Is there a problem?
Is nv-access short of funds? I made a donation recently.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Mozilla Apps Enhancements addon

Eilana Benish
 

Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Hello everyone

lately when I am trying to use Mozilla Apps Enhancements addon with Mozilla Thunderbird

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

The keyboard shortcut for opening menu options for a contact is not working

out of list  • In a message window:

list  with 4 items  • Control+Shift+(1-4) Reads the sender and recipients of the message. If pressed twice quickly, opens the options menu.

Am I missing something or this is an you issue that needs to be fixed

Thanks in advance


Eilana



Tech VB podcast: In-depth interview with NVDA contributor Joseph Lee

 

Hello NVDA community,

As we await NVDA 2020.4, I figured the following podcast would be educational for many of you:

I sat down with Vytautus from Tech VB for an in-depth interview about NVDA, add-ons, accessibility advocacy and many topics. The resulting podcast (about two hours in length) is now available for your enjoyment:

In-depth interview with NVDA contributor Joseph Lee, We talked about Screen readers, Education, and everything else accessibility related – techvb.net

 

Thanks to Vytautus from Tech VB for inviting me for this interview, and of course, special shout-out to Nv Access people for making NVDA possible and add-on authors for opening up possibilities for thousands. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to reach out to me privately (not on NVDA users group please).

Cheers,

Joseph


BrowserNav Add-on Beeping

Richard Wells
 

Earlier, I reported that I was getting beeping on web pages as I
navigate on them. I disabled BrowserNav as someone suggested and the
problem went away. So far, I have not found anything that looks like a
toggle for this preference. I love the add-on and will accept the
side-effect of using it, but I would love to see a feature that would
allow me to disable this behavior in the future. Thanks for all the
feedback I got on this.


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's true.

On 2/7/2021 12:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Neither does Start Page.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It has Donald Duck--hahahahahahaha. Couldn't resist that one.



On 2/7/2021 12:57 PM, Monte Single wrote:

 

 

Duckduckgo!Does it come with cartoons?

Sorry,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 7, 2021 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.

 

 

On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Monte Single
 

 

 

Duckduckgo!Does it come with cartoons?

Sorry,

 

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: February 7, 2021 1:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.

 

 

On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

I was thinking about different search engines and an important advantage may be that Start Page and Duck Duck go (spelling), since they don't track you, may not try to tailor results. You may get a broader representation of results that don't trap you in an information bubble. If you research a political subject, for example, you may see more sites with more differing opinions.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

Neither does Start Page.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using
startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find
what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of
Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021,
is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the
first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not
often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a
world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here,
is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck
anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the
beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at
NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the
word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you
will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more
specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the
NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single
website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds
of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns,
that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes
how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as
most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced
options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you
can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval
can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

Neither does Start Page.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.







On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:


I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Gene
 

I haven't used Start Page enough to compare in many ways. I know that Start Page uses Google for its searches and that it doesn't track you. What I don't know is if there are features or abilities Google has that Start Page doesn't. for example, Google is very good at correcting spellings which makes searching very convenient. Sometimes, a spell checker won't know what I'm misspelling, but Google does. If a spell checker offers no suggestions, I may check the word on Google. The same with proper names I want to know how to spell.

Also, Google has very convenient features like web snippets and people also ask.

I don't search when I'm signed into Google because it makes it less likely Google will know who is searching, in terms of my identity.

I don't see a serious problem with what you are calling garbage. I simply use h from the top of the page and quickly go down to web results, if that's what I want to look at, which is a heading. From there, I continue by heading.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2021 12:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification



, I find Start page is just as good as google. You don’t get advertising. I prefer start page as my search engine. I tell everybody Iknow I is a good search engine.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification





On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:



It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.



-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator. While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end. If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://)/ and you will be searching only that website for content. You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page. There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

~ Brian Vogel


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Duckduckgo is really good too because they don't track you.



On 2/7/2021 10:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

I have not refined my searchskills much, but I have found that using startpage instead of google cuts out a lot of garbage and I usually find what I need in the first half dozen links.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA User Guide doesn't open in default browser

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I've just installed NVDA 2020.4 beta 4, and the user guide now opens correctly in Edge, which is my default browser.  I know this is completely idiosyncratic.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I've used startpage before and it is really good.



On 2/7/2021 10:34 AM, Arlene wrote:

, I find Start page is just as good as google. You don’t get advertising. I prefer start page as my search engine. I tell everybody Iknow I is a good search engine.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

-
Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

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Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

 

I have not used Google in years as my primary search engine.  I like DuckDuckGo, and StartPage is an equally good alternative for those who prefer it.

The search operator syntax has been pretty largely consistent across different search engines.  So if you did learn for Google, what you're used to is very likely to be used with whatever search engine it is you now prefer.
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Re: A quick question about NVDA certification

Arlene
 

, I find Start page is just as good as google. You don’t get advertising. I prefer start page as my search engine. I tell everybody Iknow I is a good search engine.  

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: February 7, 2021 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A quick question about NVDA certification

 

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:00 AM, Gene wrote:

It is unfortunate that so many people are unaware of the power and value of Google searches or other good search engine searches.

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Amen to that!

I have preached, repeatedly, that knowing how to do a web search, in 2021, is a basic skill, and if you don't have it then acquiring it is one of the first things you should be trying to do.

And the range of search operators for any search engine is wide (and not often necessary to deal with, I might add) and allows you to drill through a world of data with almost laser-like focus.

One of the operators I do use with some frequency, and which applies here, is the site: operator.  While, like any search term, it can be stuck anywhere in a list of search criteria I generally place it either at the beginning or the end.  If you only wanted to search for something at NVAccess then adding the search term site:nvaccess.org (no spaces, just the word site, the colon, and the website sans any need for http://) and you will be searching only that website for content.  You can even get more specific, such that if you only wanted to search the News portion of the NVAccess site, you would put, site:nvaccess.org/news.

That one operator, when you know that you only want content from a single website or some sub-segment of that site, will eliminate possibly hundreds of thousands of extraneous results.

Google has a great Advanced Search page, with fillable edit boxes/dropdowns, that tells you (if it's accessible) right after all of those fill-in boxes how you can do the same thing in a regular Google Search using operators, as most of us will never come close to combining all of the potential advanced options on the Advanced Search page.  There are also more tutorials that you can shake a stick at regarding Google Search operators and how to use them.
 
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