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Prepared to be banned from list, but I'll air my views anyway.
Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Hi list. I was quite offended by Mr. brian Module, Moderator Royal's attitude when messages about NVDA's problems with Visual Studio 2019 was discussed earlier today. Before saying anything else, I want to remind him of two facts.
1. The NVDA community, if we can call it that, is spread over the word, over different time zones. It is not any of our fault if we can't see a message posted at 4 PM EST in the US, because it is for example, 4 AM here in Singapore, South-east Asia where I live, and all things being equal, I should have been still asleep, that early in the morning. 2. Perhaps he doesn't realize that other people too belong to other lists, that messages from those lists came in between the original message and the appropriate replies. The original message sent by Yeti also affected my interaction with NVDA and Visual Studio, so I replied instinctively, or does he forget that we humans do sometimes act on instinct? I get the feeling that because few of us list members use Visual Studio with NVDA, he deems it unimportant and thus having the authority to sweep the concern of the minority as swiftly as he can under the proberbial carpet, uses that power afforded to him to do so. As has been said, Mr Brian, you have the privilige of sight and can run through your mail in no time, something the rest of us can't, and so that's why we have to use NVDA in the first place. Your action was authoritarian to say the least, and I am saying it now, out loud at the risk of being banned. If we call this a community, if things like time difference and message intervals cannot even be allowed, let alone be tolerated, then I am prepared to be banned by this list, or any NVDA apheliated lists because i am at the end of my tether, as far as your authoritarian moderation style is concerned. And good luck.
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Re: Accessible Video Editor
AKH AKH
Hi William
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Thanks. So does that mean I have to write code each time I want to mark the start and end of a video clip I want to cut and paste? Andrew
On 10/02/2021 10:44, William wrote:
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NVDA and Outlook messages
Steve Nutt
Hi all,
I am testing an Email marketing platform called EmailOctopus for use in my business.
One thing I noticed about NVDA, having been a JAWS user for years, but now moving over more to NVDA, is that it doesn’t render HTML Emails correctly.
For example, you never see headings in Emails. If I send myself a test message and read it in JAWS, I can jump with H to all the headings and know that the formatting is correct. With NVDA, I just get No Next Heading. In fact, all the formatting is completely shot.
Is there any way we could get NVDA to render Outlook HTML messages as they should be rendered, with headings intact?
Thanks for any help.
All the best
-- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW T: +44(0)1438-742286 M: +44(0)7956-334938 F: +44(0)1438-759589 E: steve@...
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Re: Accessible Video Editor
William
Hi,
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I think you have two options. 1. download the ffmpeg and run the codes in cmd window. you can learn all those codes from ffmpeg official site. 2. download python, learn python basic and download moviepy moviepy do provide a not very comprehensive document on the web. AKH AKH 於 10/2/2021 17:54 寫道:
Hi Luke and Brian
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Re: Accessible Video Editor
AKH AKH
Hi Luke and Brian
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Sounds very useful. How do I loearn the code for basic trimming of video, please? Keen to learn. Andrew
On 10/02/2021 00:38, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 07:33 PM, William wrote:Doing stuff like this through code,we donot have to deal with all those-
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Re: How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
Hmmm not sure if thats possible. Because autoruns in viruses could have this, the security in 7 and up was updated to not allow it. I am unsure how to write an autorun inf file but I believe its [autorun] then file=nvda.exe, but of course I am unsure. I haven't needed to do this for a bit.
On 10/02/2021 6:41 pm, Christian Ohrens
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Re: How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi Christian
That way of doing it stopped back I think in window 8 or was it seven. they said it was a security risk that Microsoft put into place. It might of even been earlier.
but there are other ways of starting a portable copy of NVDA from a usb stick on another computer like using narrator etc to start nvda.
If you are interested I do have other ways of starting nvda from a usb stick or cd from off my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.htmlhttp://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.htmlIt will also depend if on a public network there is exe blocking software to stop nvda from runnning.
hope it helps.
Gene nz
On 10/02/2021 6:41 pm, Christian Ohrens
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Re: How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:41 AM, Christian Ohrens wrote:
Because I don’t know which letter the USB drive would have, it might be more comfortable if NVDA would run itself after pluggin in the Drive. Would this be possible?- Technically, you could make that happen, but it wouldn't be selective for that drive alone, so its a very bad idea. You can assign your thumb drive a fixed drive letter if you so choose. I do that for certain SD cards, USB thumb drives, and USB external HDDs. This is done in Disk Management by selecting the drive when it's been plugged in and has the default system assigned drive letter, selecting it, bringing up the context menu, and selecting Change drive letter and paths. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
Monte Single
Hi, I think the option to have a program run upon insertion of usb device was discontinued by micro soft during or after windows xp.
This was for security purposes.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 9, 2021 11:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
Hello all, As the subject said: I’m looking for a possibility to let a portable version of NVDA run automatically when I insert an USB drive to my computer like the autorun function on CDR. I’ll get a new computer next week and for setting it up I want to use NVDA. Because I don’t know which letter the USB drive would have, it might be more comfortable if NVDA would run itself after pluggin in the Drive. Would this be possible?
Regards and thanks Christian
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Re: How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
Gene
You can't do it for security reasons. Windows removed that ability many years ago to keep malware from running that might be on a thumb drive.
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But you can run Narrator, use it to run NVDA, then unload Narrator. You can have both running and unload Narrator. Gene
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From: Christian Ohrens Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2021 11:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically Hello all, As the subject said: I’m looking for a possibility to let a portable version of NVDA run automatically when I insert an USB drive to my computer like the autorun function on CDR. I’ll get a new computer next week and for setting it up I want to use NVDA. Because I don’t know which letter the USB drive would have, it might be more comfortable if NVDA would run itself after pluggin in the Drive. Would this be possible? Regards and thanks Christian
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How to start NVDA on an USB drive automatically
Christian Ohrens <mail@...>
Hello all, As the subject said: I’m looking for a possibility to let a portable version of NVDA run automatically when I insert an USB drive to my computer like the autorun function on CDR. I’ll get a new computer next week and for setting it up I want to use NVDA. Because I don’t know which letter the USB drive would have, it might be more comfortable if NVDA would run itself after pluggin in the Drive. Would this be possible?
Regards and thanks Christian
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Re: Tech VB podcast: In-depth interview with NVDA contributor Joseph Lee
Darren Tomblin
Is there an RSS feed I couldn’t find it
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73,
Darren Tomblin KC9JJJ
On Feb 9, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
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Re: Installing new nvda download
Marilyn and Don Bilderback
Brian, thanks so much for the instructions. In the choices for when the nvda starts….both were checked. Hummm. We unchecked the second one since we are both using the same account. While that didn’t change anything, we dug further. Finally, I told my husband to try youtube to see if it played music. It did not. Sigh. So we looked around and pressed the down arrow and it started to play. I am not sure what exactly went wrong or who helped or if the computer got tired of dealing with us…but we are back in business. Anyway, so far so good.
My husband has eyes and I have way more knowledge than him and we collaborated for far too long and it was a wonder we are both still sane! I know we must have installed NVDA the first time, but we surely had a better time of it than today’s fiasco. I’m sure all of us know how hopeless it is when you can’t get any feedback and it is impossible to trouble shoot by yourself. It was a chore just to dictate the Email to the list. Thanks again. Marilyn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing new nvda download
You should be asked when installing NVDA for the first time (note: for the first time, not during an upgrade) whether you want it to start with Windows or not. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Accessible Video Editor
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 07:33 PM, William wrote:
Doing stuff like this through code,we donot have to deal with all those inaccessible or problematic gui issues.- One of the great tragedies of the rise of the GUIs was the virtual disappearance of understanding and use of command line interfaces (or certain interpreted code interfaces) by a large number of computer users. There are really times when a CLI is vastly superior to a GUI for doing certain things. And they're generally as close to 100% accessible as you can get. I commend you for mentioning one of these options, as what you say is true whether one has sight or does not. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Accessible Video Editor
William
Hi, for those visually disabled like me would like to do some kind of video editing, like trimming and joining video, please consider learning about moviepy, a python video and video editing library. Doing stuff like this through code,we donot have to deal with all those inaccessible or problematic gui issues. Provided I have very very basic understanding of python, I just learn about moviepy last night, and I can already trim and join video using just few lines of codes.
Luke Robinett 於 26/1/2021 6:16 寫道:
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Re: [SOLVED] Heavy problems with nvda_2020.4rc1 and Visual Studio 2019 latest
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 07:14 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Brian, unbelievably condescending and unnecessary warning.- No, it's not. And given the frequency with which this occurs (and not only with you, you just happened to be a part of this one) it's crystal clear the people do not bother to read through topics before replying. This isn't a "sometimes" or "every once in a while" there is a pattern, and it's a pattern I intend to actively quash, as it is against the groups stated rules. This isn't, believe it or not, about you. But I am not about to avoid giving general warnings when perfect examples of why they're needed have occurred. This was one of those, and the reaction is entirely warranted. And with this, this topic is locked, as the issue originally posed has been addressed. If anyone wishes to discuss this further then the owner address is the correct mechanism. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: [SOLVED] Heavy problems with nvda_2020.4rc1 and Visual Studio 2019 latest
Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...>
Brian, unbelievably condescending and unnecessary warning. Give people a break – sometimes messages don’t show up for everyone at the same time based on the connection, server lag etc. Maybe try giving people the benefit of the doubt and not throwing your weight around without any good reason. Nobody was harmed because a few messages rolled in after OP already said he solved his issue. Also, you are not blind. It’s easy for you to see all the messages in a thread quickly, I’d imagine. Those of us using screen readers need to go message by message and sometimes we miss things. If this response gets me banned, I guess that tells me a lot about you and the moderators of this site. I never get a single atta-boy for all the times I help folks out (not that I expect that) but the minute I trip over one of the many rules I get reprimanded like a child.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Heavy problems with nvda_2020.4rc1 and Visual Studio 2019 latest
Consider what follows a strong moderator warning. There is a reason that the group rules "recommend" reading through an entire topic before replying; it's so everyone is up to speed. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Re: Installing new nvda download
You should be asked when installing NVDA for the first time (note: for the first time, not during an upgrade) whether you want it to start with Windows or not.
If you are trying to change NVDA already installed so that it does start either before logging in with Windows, or afterwards if there are multiple users on the machine, open NVDA Settings (NVDA+N,S) and the General pane should be open by default. In that pane are two checkboxes: 1. Start NVDA after I sign-in 2. Use NVDA during sign-in (requires administrator privileges) Presuming you're using a Windows 10 account with admin privileges, check whichever checkbox describes exactly when you want NVDA to start speaking. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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Installing new nvda download
Marilyn and Don Bilderback
I NEED HELP BECAUSE I CAN NOT GET THE COMPUTER TO TALK I NEED IT TO START WHEN EVER COMPUTER STARTS I KNOW I INSTALLED THIS BEFORE BUT CAN NOT REMEMBER THE STEPS
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Re: [SOLVED] Heavy problems with nvda_2020.4rc1 and Visual Studio 2019 latest
Consider what follows a strong moderator warning. There is a reason that the group rules "recommend" reading through an entire topic before replying; it's so everyone is up to speed.
Joseph Lee initially proposed turning on selective UIA event registration at 12:01 PM in message #81718. The original poster, Yeti, responded, "I just did it and it seems to fix my Problem.," at 1:14 PM, in message #81730. Yet we have had two messages, one "confirming the problem," which had already been resolved, and another reacting to that message, after the issue was already resolved successfully by the original reporter. Please, people, do not post additional messages to any topic until and unless you've read through it, in its entirety, FIRST. Joseph should not have to repeat the same solution because it was either not read or glossed over. And we're not talking about an instance where those who followed-up were doing so as the solution was being offered. These happened hours after the initial solution, and acknowledgement of same, were posted. There's no excuse for this. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself. ~ Brian Vogel
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