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Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Gene
 

Further, object navigation is described as the equivalent of the Touch cursor in sme conversations I've seen on the NVDA users list. But even though I think it can do the same or about the same things, I believe the interface is considerably different. Its something I think that is best learned by mostly examples, having someone do something rather than by a lot of description. Let us know when you want to learn it in a hands on way and I'll write something. Perhaps others will too. There is a web page for people learning NVDA who know JAWS. I haven't looked at it to any extent, but people say it is helpful.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sky Mundell
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions



And to answer your other question, NVDA does have two review cursers. One is called object navigation, where you navigate via object, and another is called screen review which acts just like the JAWS curser.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions





Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.



And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?



Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian


Re: Application key is not functioning properly

silver star siddarth mahajan <siddarthmahajan15@...>
 

hey, thanks for the reply, i'm running win10 20h2 with NVDA 20.3, trying everything what i know in my limited knowledge to solve this problem. 


On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 9:17 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
It would really help to know exactly what version of Windows and NVDA you are running as well.

The application/context menu key is not driven by NVDA, or other screen readers, but by Windows itself.  It's an even bigger mystery why it would work when NVDA is not running then stop working when it is.

Have you done a restart on your computer?  If not, definitely do one and see what happens afterward.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Application key is not functioning properly

silver star siddarth mahajan <siddarthmahajan15@...>
 

hi, thanks for the reply, as i'd mentioned, I've did all the things, and finally posted a question here. 


NVDA: chat: Vocalizer voices

Chris Shook
 

Hi,
Has anyone noticed a decrease in some of the pronunciation of the newer Vocalizer expressive voices?


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

 

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 08:31 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
crystal disk will also help.
-
I forgot about CrystalDisk Info.  Yes, that's another tool well worth using to check the health status of a HDD or SSD.  I've got version 8.6.2
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Also crystal disk will also help. I just used it to runa health check of my drive and it is very healthy.

Take care

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On 12 Feb 2021, at 15:22, Brian Vogel wrote:

If you are having slowness secondary to hard disk drive performance, you need to proceed with great caution, and run a utility that lets you know the actual condition of your HDD.

Are any of the SMART parameters showing that something's off?  (I don't care what you might use to get them).

What does a utility like SeaTools for Windows (and I can't speak to accessibility, and it will work for non-Seagate branded drives) tell you about the health of your drive if you run the short test?

You could very well have a HDD that's on its way out.  If so, you do not want to wait for it to fail.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

I just tried that, but it didn't give me the information I was looking
for. The tech indicated that my hard drive response time was being
measured in milliseconds, and that my response times were between
1,000 and 5,000. This was before I restarted and it finished
installing the updates, but I have no idea how to access this
information now. I did, using numpad 4 and 6, find out that my disk
was processing read and write requests 22% of the time, but couldn't
find the response time I'm looking for. I suspect it downloading
updates had a lot to do with the slow performance earlier, as once I
restarted it, it was running fine.

On 2/12/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I don't think it's something Resource Monitor can obtain easily (the add-on
uses Psutil, a process, disk, and CPU usage information library and I don't
believe this library has what's needed to show you what's commonly called
"disk activity" or throughput).
As an alternative, you can obtain disk usage info through Task Manager:
1. Open Task Manager (Control+Shift+Escape).
2. If not done so, select "more details".
3. Go to "performance" tab.
4. Under Performance, select the disk you wish to see its activity. You can
then use object navigation or screen review to view disk usage information
(screen review won't work on portable NVDA).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Hi all,
I was on the phone with a technician this morning for about an hour because
for the past several months, my computer has been running quite slow. He
recommended I replace my hard drive, as he noted the hard drive response
time was extremely slow. When we finally hung up, I figured I'd get to my
usual daily computer activities, but found what shouldn't have been
surprising, my computer was painfully slow.
So, I restarted it, and it turned out it was installing more updates.
Now, performance is back to normal, but I want to continue to monitor my
hard drive's response time before I spend the money for a new drive. Is this
something the Resource monitor add-on can do, or do I need to do what he did
and open task manager? If the latter, how do I get NVDA to read this
information?
Bob











Re: NVDA saying 'slide to close"

 

Hi,
Sounds like lock screen or an overlay. The fact that it says "slide to
close" could be an indication that it is a touchscreen laptop (and to answer
another email, yes, NVDA does come with touch capability and touch cursor
feature in the form of object navigation).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 3:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA saying 'slide to close"

It'sa lap top. I don't know the brand or model.
At 03:47 PM 2/12/2021, you wrote:

Slide to close? Sounds more like VoiceOver than NVDA. What is your
student using?


Dan Beaver
On 2/12/2021 3:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech. Trying
to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close". What
is going on???

thx,




--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA saying 'slide to close"

Ann Byrne
 

Does NVDA have a touch cursor mode??

At 03:47 PM 2/12/2021, you wrote:

Slide to close? Sounds more like VoiceOver than NVDA. What is your student using?


Dan Beaver
On 2/12/2021 3:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech. Trying to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close". What is going on???

thx,




--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: NVDA saying 'slide to close"

Ann Byrne
 

It'sa lap top. I don't know the brand or model.

At 03:47 PM 2/12/2021, you wrote:

Slide to close? Sounds more like VoiceOver than NVDA. What is your student using?


Dan Beaver
On 2/12/2021 3:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech. Trying to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close". What is going on???

thx,




--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

 

If you are having slowness secondary to hard disk drive performance, you need to proceed with great caution, and run a utility that lets you know the actual condition of your HDD.

Are any of the SMART parameters showing that something's off?  (I don't care what you might use to get them).

What does a utility like SeaTools for Windows (and I can't speak to accessibility, and it will work for non-Seagate branded drives) tell you about the health of your drive if you run the short test?

You could very well have a HDD that's on its way out.  If so, you do not want to wait for it to fail.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

The depths of denial one can be pushed to by outside forces of disapproval can make you not even recognize yourself to yourself.

       ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: resource monitor add-on or some other way?

 

Hi,
I don't think it's something Resource Monitor can obtain easily (the add-on uses Psutil, a process, disk, and CPU usage information library and I don't believe this library has what's needed to show you what's commonly called "disk activity" or throughput).
As an alternative, you can obtain disk usage info through Task Manager:
1. Open Task Manager (Control+Shift+Escape).
2. If not done so, select "more details".
3. Go to "performance" tab.
4. Under Performance, select the disk you wish to see its activity. You can then use object navigation or screen review to view disk usage information (screen review won't work on portable NVDA).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Hi all,
I was on the phone with a technician this morning for about an hour because for the past several months, my computer has been running quite slow. He recommended I replace my hard drive, as he noted the hard drive response time was extremely slow. When we finally hung up, I figured I'd get to my usual daily computer activities, but found what shouldn't have been surprising, my computer was painfully slow.
So, I restarted it, and it turned out it was installing more updates.
Now, performance is back to normal, but I want to continue to monitor my hard drive's response time before I spend the money for a new drive. Is this something the Resource monitor add-on can do, or do I need to do what he did and open task manager? If the latter, how do I get NVDA to read this information?
Bob


resource monitor add-on or some other way?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
I was on the phone with a technician this morning for about an hour
because for the past several months, my computer has been running
quite slow. He recommended I replace my hard drive, as he noted the
hard drive response time was extremely slow. When we finally hung up,
I figured I'd get to my usual daily computer activities, but found
what shouldn't have been surprising, my computer was painfully slow.
So, I restarted it, and it turned out it was installing more updates.
Now, performance is back to normal, but I want to continue to monitor
my hard drive's response time before I spend the money for a new
drive. Is this something the Resource monitor add-on can do, or do I
need to do what he did and open task manager? If the latter, how do I
get NVDA to read this information?
Bob


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Chris Smart
 

It's called Osara.

Please see

www.reaperaccessibility.com

for more information.


and for info on the Jaws scripts for Magix Samplitude, go to:

http://samplitudeaccess.org.uk/



On 2021-02-12 4:47 p.m., Sky Mundell wrote:

And also with Reaper, to make it work with NVDA you need the Ostara plugin.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi,
In fact, JAWS touch cursor is really object navigation.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ali Savas
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 1:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Hi Christian,

there is nothing like the JAWS cursor in NVDA, but you can navigate through the windows using the object cursor. With Numpad-0+4 or -6 you can navigate between the objects. With Numpad-0+2 or 8 you can change the hierarchy.

Additionally there is the screen viewer (Numpad-0+7). Once activated, you can navigate line by line with numpad-4 and numpad-6. You can switch back to object navigation by pressing Numpad-0+1.

Many greetings
Ali


Re: NVDA saying 'slide to close"

Dan Beaver
 

Slide to close?  Sounds more like VoiceOver than NVDA.  What is your student using?


Dan Beaver

On 2/12/2021 3:43 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Sometimes when my student activates NVDA, there is no speech.  Trying to reboot, speech pops up long enough to say "slide to close".  What is going on???

thx,






-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

And also with Reaper, to make it work with NVDA you need the Ostara plugin.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Ali Savas
 

Hi Christian,

there is nothing like the JAWS cursor in NVDA, but you can navigate
through the windows using the object cursor. With Numpad-0+4 or -6 you
can navigate between the objects. With Numpad-0+2 or 8 you can change
the hierarchy.

Additionally there is the screen viewer (Numpad-0+7). Once activated,
you can navigate line by line with numpad-4 and numpad-6. You can switch
back to object navigation by pressing Numpad-0+1.

Many greetings
Ali


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

And to answer your other question, NVDA does have two review cursers. One is called object navigation, where you navigate via object, and another is called screen review which acts just like the JAWS curser.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 


Re: Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

Sky Mundell
 

Hello. Reaper does work with NVDA as does Sound Forge. Sampletude however will not work with NVDA. With Sampletude, you still need to use JAWS.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christian Ohrens
Sent: February 12, 2021 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing from JAWS 2018 to NVDA, some general questions

 

Hi folks,

I’m thinking about to replace my older JAWS to the newest NVDA build on my new computer which I’ll get next week.

For JAWS I am using several Script packages for some programs and now I want to know if there exists such addons or scripts for NVDA ttoo for the following programs:

Samplitude X5, Sound Forge Pro 14, Reaper.

 

And I’ve also some general questions concerrnning the handling of NVDA:

Are there some functions similar to the touch cursor or JAWS cursor in JAWS?

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Christian

 

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