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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

That is not a mini explorer, that is a part of file explorer, in fact I don't think there is a name for such.

Tc

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] mini explorers with NVDA

When you say press control+O to open a file within say Audacity or Word.

On 2/19/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Serious question: What are you referring to with "mini explorers"?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

~ Anton Chekhov






Questions Regarding The Donation Form on Nvaccess.org

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

I am trying to make a donation. The form requires our country of origin and Ireland is not in the list. Should I take it that Irish colleagues are not expected to make a donation?

 

I cannot proceed by identifying myself as being from some other country!

 

Have you any advice to offer?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: new member to the group.

Gene
 

What makesit look hard to use. A good deal of what a lot of users do involves Windows and program commands. You can do quite a bit if you use a different screen-reader even if you know nothing about the screen-reader except for a few commands like read title bar.

As far ass an introduction to NVDA as a JAWS user is concerned, see this page:
https://gttprogram.blog/2018/12/20/switching-from-jaws-to-nvda-nvaccess-nvda-community-wiki-%C2%B7-github/

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] new member to the group.



Hi all, I currently use jaws 18, and think it’s about time I learn how to use NVDA.

It looks hard to use, but hope it isn’t. so any ideas you can pass along will be greatly appreciated. Jim


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 03:39 PM, Governor staten wrote:
Part of the issue here is that each folder can have its own settings, or they can be applied to all folders, no matter what.
-
But the only way to apply to all folders is if you do this through Control Panel, File Explorer Options, View Tab.   If you (any you) have actually done that then every blessed folder that is of the same type (e.g., contains documents and subfolders, contains music, contains pictures) should be the same.

The only way that any of these things "get out of sync" with each other is if someone's been diddling with the default views in multiple places.  If they have, this comes back to advice I gave the other day, you need to enter that in to your personal "settings changes history" document so you'll know later exactly what you did, and when.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: new member to the group.

 

Jim,

          If you are already a JAWS user I believe you'll find NVDA very easy to use, as there are many, many commands that overlap.  There are some that don't, and getting those clear in your mind can take a bit.

          My introduction to NVDA was through using it as a surrogate for JAWS when I was tutoring JAWS.  The Virginia Department for the Blind and Visually Impaired was not about to buy me a license, and often my testing and digging required more than 40 minutes, so I started using NVDA when I wanted to do certain things "at my leisure." 

           While the transition is not absolutely seamless, it's really not all that difficult, either.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


new member to the group.

Jim Rawls <jazzpiano@...>
 

Hi all, I currently use jaws 18, and think it’s about time I learn how to use NVDA.

It looks hard to use, but hope it isn’t. so any ideas you can pass along will be greatly appreciated. Jim


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

Part of the issue here is that each folder can have its own settings, or they can be applied to all folders, no matter what.





On 2/19/2021 1:50 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Okay, let's see if the third forum I post to is finally going to help
me solve this problem. First off a little background, about 15 months
ago after a Windows update, my downloads folder started being sorted
by date. It wasn't until just recently that I realized that it was
actually grouping by date before sorting by name. That being said,
right away I posted on the Microsoft help community and was told to
set the group by option in file explorer to none. I did that, and got
my downloads folder sorted by name again within file explorer.
However, when I go to open a file within an app such as Audacity, the
downloads folder is still grouped. So, the other day I finally decided
to try and fix this with another post on the Microsoft help community.
I was directed to the Windows 10 help forums, where it was pointed out
that there's a more options button within the mini explorers that
allows grouping to be turned off there, but normal keyboard commands
seemingly can't be used to access it. Can anyone help me out with
this? Btw, I updated to NVDA 2020.4 last night.
Bob






Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys



You can view what has been updated on my website from the following web page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

They are found under a heading called recently updated  to Accessibilitycentral.net  which will have other material I have put up there. So to stay with the rules I have only put in tutorials for nvda.


Recently updated: Added Tab headers are now considered form fields tutorial to the NVDA tutorials page;
Added the audio described video called Changing Lives to the audio description page;
Added how to play an audio described show from the attitudelive.com website to the audio description page with nvda;
Added RH voices to the How to install additional NVDA components page;
Added a new page Added a new page called Managing your groups.io account with NVDA to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;
Added a page called Using Disney + with NVDA on the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;
Added a page called Troubleshooting NVDA screen reader problems to the main page.


There might be other stuff on the website not nvda related you may want to browse as well.


Gene nz




On 16/09/2020 10:58 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Added:

Added a page called Testing your website or application with the NVDA screen reader to the main page;


Added updates SpeechHub and SpeakOn resources for NVDA page (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).


Recently updated:

How to get to Task Manager quickly, and NVDA remote troubleshooting (NVDA audio tutorials page);
Updates to Dropbox tutorial, tutorials on Microsoft Teams, as well as Zoom (NVDA tutorials for other programs page).

Gene NZ

On 20/12/2019 6:52 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi every one


Recently updated: Added NVDA touch gestures and Screen curtain add on now in NVDA 2019.3;
Resetting gestures back to factory defaults; Focus highlighter addon now integrated into NVDA 2019.3 (on the NVDA tutorials page).


Gene nz


On 22/09/2019 9:24 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Recently updated: NVDA have now released an official date for NVDAcon 2019. Our international NVDA conference will be held from November 15th to November 17th.

To find out more about the upcoming online conference NVDAcon 2019, please visit the following link  https://www.nvdacon.org/


New: Added a page called how to navigate Google Duo for web with NVDA (to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).
Added a new page called get image descriptions from Google in Google browser (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


Gene NZ


On 3/06/2019 11:12 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,


Recently updated: Added the Microsoft Edge chromium based browser to the browser list on the NVDA road tested programs page. Added the following sections to the NVDA tutorials page: NVDA now remembers the last 20 searches done; Filter by search box for locating punctuation/symbols with NVDA; Assign a shortcut key to hear what is spoken under the mouse pointer; and Disabling Browse mode in NVDA. Added a new section to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page called Windows One Core voices can now be used with the rate boost feature in NVDA. Added a new section to the NVDA Addons page called Addon updater.


New: Added a page called Using the Microsoft Edge chromium powered browser with the NVDA screen reader to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page. Added a new page to the main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage called Blindness related resources.

Gene NZ


On 29/04/2019 9:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi,


Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net (Please visit the section called recently updated on the accessibilitycentral.net homepage to see what is new on the site).

Added the Microsoft Edge chromium based browser to the browser list on the NVDA road tested programs page;
Added a page called Using Kindle for PC with NVDA off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added a page called Using the ribbon interface in Windows via the keyboard (Courtesy of Brian Vogel) off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added where to locate the NVDA development snapshots page for people wanting to help test out the snapshots and/or check out new features to the NVDA screen reader related resources page;

NVDACon2019 - NVDA's annual conference online.

The question has been asked...Which weekend/s in August would suit most people for NVDACon2019?  

Please take two minutes and access the survey at https://doodle.com/poll/sd5ubgyrbhibm5bw

 To complete the survey, please don’t use Firefox because the survey is not completely accessible in that browser.

Select the weekend or weekends that suit you best!

 Hope to see you all at NVDACon2019!


On 17/03/2019 10:22 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi,

Recently updated: on the Accessibilitycentral website...Added the Brave browser to the NVDA road tested programs page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html; Added essential lessons from NVDA development basics by Jospeh Lee to the NVDA screen reader related resources page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20screen%20reader%20related%20resources; Added Image describer addon and a link to the website to the NVDA addons page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html

Gene NZ

On 11/03/2019 6:04 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys,

The following information comes from the heading called Recently updated on my accessibilitycentral.net website... This information is for the NVDA related material.

Recently updated: Added a tutorial on how to add a Humanware BrailleNote to NVDA as well as a section called Add-on updater http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html.  Christchurch City Library announces the installation of the NVDA screen reader on 390 of their public terminals across their network of 19 libraries. To find out which software is available on the CCL network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/  Added a section called Changes to navigation of the Emoji panel in Windows 10 version 1809. How to add an emoji in Windows 10 with NVDA (on the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page) http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html


Also, added playing your music/movies to a Google device (off the how to use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader page).

Inputting with MuseScore; Using your Wordpress dashboard with NVDA; Added an audio tutorial for Skype for web, using the NVDA screen reader http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html;


Gene NZ




On 10/10/2018 9:13 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene!

Thanks for letting us know!

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi guys

 

Just to let you know the web site has come back on line it seemed it was a very series crash on there end. it may go up and down while they repopulate all the web sites on that server.

 

Hopefully nothing like this happens again for a very long long  ..... time again.

 

It is dated the 23rd of September so is the last update that was drop boxed to the list.

 


Gene nz

On 2/10/2018 10:14 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene and all!

I just unzipped it with 7Zip!

It works very well.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

The website has been zipped you will need a program to unzip it. You can also do it with windows explorer but may be better to make a folder then put the files into it that is easy to find. Then it is a matter of just going to the index file with in the folder and pressing the enter key on it and use it like normal. As long as people have internet access they should be able to access audio files  etc.

 

There may be another tutorial been added on later this week so will update the link to the drop box account then.

 

I will let people know then.

 

The drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/fh0ke305t6afduw/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/10/2018 9:11 AM, The Wolf wrote:

can you please dropbox me the files?

the website that is?

On 10/1/2018 1:07 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

As you probably have noticed Accessibilitycentral.net has not be accessible and the following message comes up when you try to access one of the pages Website is temporarily down due to file system failure. Recovery is in progress, please check back later. Sorry for inconveniences

.

 

The people we host with were alerted when i first noticed it and it has to be fixed on there end. I do not know when it will be back up but hopefully it is ASAP.

 

I guess this is maybe what you get some times when you host with a free provider? with no adds and only have to pay for the domain name.

 

It sounds pretty serious like the server hard drive took a dive?

 

If any one wants to access the material on it at present I can zip it up and drop box it until it comes back on line.

This will only be the website files not the audio files as every one has access to the internet mostly.

 

You will then need to unzip it and put it into a folder with the files. Then it is a matter of just accessing the index file for the website.

 

I might again even look at other options for hosting.

 

Let us know and can drop box to the list.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 5/09/2018 8:11 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added a tutorial called The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS on the NVDA audio tutorials page

under trouble shooting.

Gene nz

 

 

On 9/08/2018 5:14 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually there are 5 different menues in Skype Electron.

All the menues access with alt key.

Alt+e for edit menue.

Alt+f for file menue.

Alt+h for help menue.

Alt+t for tool menue.

And alt+v for view menue respectively.

For details, go to those menues and discover how much those menues are accessible.

I’m very sorry to let you know that most of us do not like to spend sometimes to explore new things and want to stick with old technology.

At the end all I can is “No gain without pain”!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

The Skype support page lags these hotkeys for Skype 8:

ALT plus F.

for a menu contains some features or options

ALT plus E

For the edit menu.

ALT plus T

for the tools menu.

ALT plus H

For the help menu.

 

 

 

On 8/7/18, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io <charlsdarwin1969@...> wrote:

> This key command will work for  both the things!

> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

> Charlsdarwin1

> You can contact me via gmail:

> inamuddin09@...

> Inamuddin.ronaque@...

> outlook:

> inam092@...

> yahoo:

> inamuddin2010@...

> Add my Skype ID:

> charlsdarwin1

> Meet me on facebook:

> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

> Follow me on my twitter ID:

> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

> Call me on my cell numbers:

> +92-300-2227598

> +92-334-3348409

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:40 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> Is that not to make a call? I would have to go back and check when i checked

> the short cuts i did not see any to answer. so this one works to answer a

> call?

> I wonder if any of the old short cuts would work? at moment i just get it to

> automatically answer it is alot easier.

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 12:01 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene!

> Try CTRL+Shift+P

> It worked for me in Skype 8.25 as well as the Win10 app of Skype!!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:34 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> I have not gone through all the short cuts for skype either I copied the

> list from them and tried a few of them but not all. it just might be a focus

> thing with nvda not speaking that shorcut when preformed?

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 9:24 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi

> I just had a quick look under the skype 8 short cut keys hopefully i googled

> the right list for skype 8 for desk top it mentions short cut keys for other

> stuff in skype. the list can be found here at

> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

> At the moment so i do not have to be in the screen under the calling section

> i think it is under your profile you can check the boxes to have it

> automatically answer in coming calls and videos that is what i have done at

> present.

> I thought also some one on this list said there was another short cut that

> worked but until it can be confirmed in this version by some one else i then

> will add it. It when i had a quick look did not mention a short cut for

> answer in coming calls or video calls may be still to be added?

> I do not mind the automatically answer part saves rushing and trying to

> figure which part of the screen to be in. It would of made sense to have

> left the old short cut keys from skype 7 in it.

> Gene nz

> On 8/6/2018 11:30 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:

> hi,

> could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

> This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

> Homepage;

> http://tip.simpl.com/

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>

> wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for

> Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> The following tutorials have been added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:

> How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer

> Addon troubleshooting

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA

> related resources from around the world,

> please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following

> link NVDA screen reader related resources

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google

> translate will improve more in the near future.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on

> the main web page.

> You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then

> press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

> For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on

> every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says

> some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the

> translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is

> already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it

> to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language

> combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language.

> it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also

> translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

> You will see what i mean when it is translated.

> it may help? for people where english is not there first language like

> mine.

> Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more

> or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

> Gene nz

> On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole

> community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the

> translations group.

> I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some

> suggestions.

> I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user

> specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as

> well.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen

> reader related resources off the main website at

> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

> When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web

> pages on my website that point to that page.

> I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.

> These can be changed  or added to.

> Gene nz

> On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi Adriani

> Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources

> which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I

> will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda

> blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would

> be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

> Even though he had a good site.

> I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc

> but not in the one place.

> Gene nz

> On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Gene,

> thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome

> to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at

> that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

> Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do

> it the other way that was posted.

> I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

> The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble

> shooting.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Hello,

> we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which

> activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well

> and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this

> file:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at

> https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

> You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

> So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to

> fix the problem.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

> hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

> how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

> does it have solution for users of xp?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

> On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> HI guys

> Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> RECENTLY UPDATED:

> Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

> Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

> has been updated for 2018.1

> Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

> product reviews page

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

> NEW:

> Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

> tutorials for other programs page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

> Gene NZ

> On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene NZ!

> Thanks so much for what you do for us!

> God bless!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

> 10

> From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi guys

> Pages recently updated

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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 03:14 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
invoke the context menu for the folder (with nothing selected) and do it from there as it is done for the standard Windows Explorer windows. The setting is saved and applied for each "Browse" dialog, no matter from which program is invoked.
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And I'm not doubting what you've said here, I just have never, ever experienced it, particularly in regard to grouping by date, etc.

I've tweaked sort order or actual item view many times.  And I have no idea how grouping would come to be turned on anywhere unless someone (or something, in the case of an update) turned it on.  Right now, when I open my Downloads folder in the Browse Dialog, it is grouped because I left the File Explorer view that way after I took a few days and decided that what I thought I'd hate was something I really loved.  But all other folders, no.  It follows the File Explorer view for that given folder.
 
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 03:14 PM, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
The views set in the "Browse" dialogs seam to be independent from the ones set in Windows Explorer windows, strange as it may be as a behavior.
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I didn't say you can't set views that are different, but if you can find me any one of those views that allow you to set grouping, then please do, because I can't find that anywhere.  That's my point.  I can't see a solitary thing related to grouping, just sort order on a given column, and what the view (e.g., small tiles, large tiles, details) is.
 
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

Hello,

Actually, Brian, I think you are wrong. The views set in the "Browse" dialogs seam to be independent from the ones set in Windows Explorer windows, strange as it may be as a behavior.

I went in both my personal "Downloads" folder (the one in my user's personal folder) and the one in "This PC" and disabled the grouping by date and set the sorting to be by name instead of by day (it was set so by me a long time ago for the folder in "This PC", but it was not for the one in my personal folder). Now it is set to no grouping and sorting by name for both places, but when I invoked a "Browse" dialog from a program (I tried in Audacity, Balabolka and Notepad++) and navigated to the "Downloads" folder, the view in both "Downloads" folders was set to grouping and sorting by date.

To disable the grouping and sorting by date in both "Downloads" folders for the "Browse" dialogs, the user has to invoke such a dialog from a program, navigate to the two folders, invoke the context menu for the folder (with nothing selected) and do it from there as it is done for the standard Windows Explorer windows. The setting is saved and applied for each "Browse" dialog, no matter from which program is invoked.

Hope this helps.

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Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 19.2.2021 г. в 21:28, Brian Vogel написа:

Bob,

            By the way, those are called "browse dialogs."  You use 'em in any program when you're trying to either open a file, or save it (or save it as, the last two depend on whether it's ever been saved and whether you're changing the name).

             That being said, unless you intentionally changed something at some point, no browse dialog should open a folder with a view other than what it's set to under Windows 10.  Double check that you do indeed have Group by turned off, and that the primary sort on the Downloads folder is by Name.

              I have just gone through every button on the Browse Dialog used for opening a file, including those you access once you land on the Organize button and right arrowing from there, and I can find absolutely nothing that allows you to turn on grouping (or remove it) in the Browse Dialog.
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

And when I said, "under Windows 10," I should have been more explicit and said in File Explorer under Windows 10.  
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Re: nvda and the calculator app

 

Hi,
Although this change can be refined, it is becoming highly unlikely that
this will be reverted fully. Part of this has to do with Microsoft's
thinking regarding it, as whatever they do impacts NVDA in the end. Also,
this decision was not strictly mine - we had folks report the behavior
you've described as not satisfactory for them, and after careful thinking, I
decided that it is better to honor NVDA settings than let the app dictate
things fully, which includes silencing controls when NVDA is told to not
announce typed characters, especially when concerning expressions (this is
why NVDA does not announce notifications from newer apps unless you are
actually using them). More broadly, I consider Narrator (not JAWS) as a base
standard in Windows 10 (including in Calculator app), but I do keep NVDA
settings in mind when I write support for modern apps and try my best to
design user experience around NVDA settings and usage scenarios (one example
is supporting selective UIA event registration properly in parts of Windows
10 App Essentials add-on, specifically when interacting with emoji panel and
clipboard history). In regards to the scenario you have described, to
restore the old behavior, I advise turning on "speak typed characters"
through an app-specific configuration profile for Calculator app, which will
then let you hear typed characters (numbers and symbols) as you enter
expressions (note that Windows 10 App Essentials doesn't know about speak
typed characters setting, which enforces the notion that the add-on should
not make changes to NvDA settings).
As a general rule: you can say that Windows 10 App Essentials will give you
a preview of what NVDA might do with Windows 10 features and apps in the
future. At the moment Windows 10 App Essentials includes at least four
possible (and actual) changes reviewed by NV Access and other contributors,
including announcing the name of the virtual desktop you are switching to,
improved support for more modern emoji panel and clipboard history being
tested by Windows Insiders, improved support for Windows Search edit field
in File Explorer (with mixed results at the moment), and announcing new
locations of Start Menu tiles and Action Center items when rearranged. Of
course I haven't forgotten about Calculator app - in fact, WinTenApps
includes improved support for history and memory list navigation in more
recent Calculator releases, which may or may not become a part of NVDA
(again this depends on Microsoft's thinking).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of heike67
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 10:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and the calculator app

hi
nothing helped at first, but thank you very much for your answer and your
help. i have tried the essential ad on, but if that was changed on purpose i
can probably only wait for a while.

regards
heike


Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

Bob,

            By the way, those are called "browse dialogs."  You use 'em in any program when you're trying to either open a file, or save it (or save it as, the last two depend on whether it's ever been saved and whether you're changing the name).

             That being said, unless you intentionally changed something at some point, no browse dialog should open a folder with a view other than what it's set to under Windows 10.  Double check that you do indeed have Group by turned off, and that the primary sort on the Downloads folder is by Name.

              I have just gone through every button on the Browse Dialog used for opening a file, including those you access once you land on the Organize button and right arrowing from there, and I can find absolutely nothing that allows you to turn on grouping (or remove it) in the Browse Dialog.
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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

When you say press control+O to open a file within say Audacity or Word.

On 2/19/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Serious question:  What are you referring to with "mini explorers"?

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Re: Browse Dialogs with NVDA

 

Serious question:  What are you referring to with "mini explorers"?

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Re: nvda and the calculator app

 

hi
nothing helped at first, but thank you very much for your answer and your help. i have tried the essential ad on, but if that was changed on purpose i can probably only wait for a while.

regards
heike


Browse Dialogs with NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
Okay, let's see if the third forum I post to is finally going to help
me solve this problem. First off a little background, about 15 months
ago after a Windows update, my downloads folder started being sorted
by date. It wasn't until just recently that I realized that it was
actually grouping by date before sorting by name. That being said,
right away I posted on the Microsoft help community and was told to
set the group by option in file explorer to none. I did that, and got
my downloads folder sorted by name again within file explorer.
However, when I go to open a file within an app such as Audacity, the
downloads folder is still grouped. So, the other day I finally decided
to try and fix this with another post on the Microsoft help community.
I was directed to the Windows 10 help forums, where it was pointed out
that there's a more options button within the mini explorers that
allows grouping to be turned off there, but normal keyboard commands
seemingly can't be used to access it. Can anyone help me out with
this? Btw, I updated to NVDA 2020.4 last night.
Bob


locked Re: Outlook 2010 Issues with 2020.4 release, Windows 7

 

Jackie,

            Absolutely correct.  And while I have no issue at all with any member soliciting information about whether others are having sudden issues with software they've been using forever, even if it's out of support, the only thing further to say is, "You need to update."

             The group rules about this are very, very clear:
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Unsupported versions of any software may only be discussed on the Chat Subgroup, not the main NVDA Group. 

Windows:  Only Windows 8.1 and currently supported versions of Windows 10.  Members should refer to the Windows Lifecycle Fact Sheet to determine which versions of Windows are currently supported.  Information about the dates on which specific versions of Windows 10 reached or will reach their end of service dates is listed there as well and will be updated as new versions are released. 

Note that it is acceptable to direct a user to the NVAccess or Microsoft sites where older versions can be downloaded, however, this is different than supporting a specific version of software or operating system.

NVDA:  NVDA has, at any given time, a single version under active support.  If a question arises about how to update to that version, and you’re on an earlier version, that will be permitted as transition problems can occasionally occur.

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Those rules exist simply because there is a certain contingent of users (and I am not saying that Marcia is among them, because I don't know that, but we've all seen 'em) that simply will not accept two things:

1. All software has a finite service life.

2. It is entirely unreasonable to expect perpetual backward compatibility from any piece of software.  This is even more true now in the era of "Software As A Service," and it's not just Windows 10 that falls into that broad category.  The release schedule for NVDA has had that be what it is, in essence, for some time now.

We're now almost six years in to the Windows 10 era, and Windows 7 is officially completely out of support.  The Windows ecosystem is now the Windows 10 (with some Windows 8.1, but the writing's on the wall now for it, too) ecosystem, period.

It is essential that folks keep their systems up to date, and I have had one, and only one, Windows 7 machine that couldn't update to Windows 10, and that was due to the graphics hardware maker refusing to create a compatible driver.  Everything else would have happily gone along.
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locked Re: Outlook 2010 Issues with 2020.4 release, Windows 7

Jackie
 

Marcia, please remember that Outlook 2010 and Windows 7 are no longer
supported. As such, newer versions of NVDA may not support these
either, and you may find yourself needing to use older versions to
maintain that functionality.

On 2/19/21, Marcia Yale <dragoncatmc@gmail.com> wrote:
My message lists are no longer reading and NVDA gets stuck on the
dictionary
name in the spellcheck. Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Marcia Yale
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