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Re: Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display

Quentin Christensen
 

As Luke noted, either Insert or Caps lock - and that is set independently of desktop or laptop keyboard layout in NVDA - it's the key that you use with other keys for any NVDA command - eg say all.

As a fairly new user experienced with Jaws, we have a Switching from Jaws to NVDA guide which is well worth a reading: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

And if you think of anything you want to know which isn't covered there, do let me know so it can be updated.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:51 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
It depends on your configuration. When you were setting up NVDA, you either set
the NVDA key to be the capslock key, the insert key, or the numpad insert key.
or some or all of the above.

Luke

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021, John Wells via groups.io wrote:

> I am very new to NVDA, having used Jaws for years. I still use windows live mail for my emails and the braille works fine with jaws. However, when I open an
> email using NVDA the text is read to me but the braille simply lands on the word payne and does not move.  You suggested I press NVDA plus control T. What
> is the key for NVDA in this case please. John Wells.







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Training and Support Manager


Re: Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display

Luke Davis
 

It depends on your configuration. When you were setting up NVDA, you either set the NVDA key to be the capslock key, the insert key, or the numpad insert key. or some or all of the above.

Luke

On Tue, 2 Mar 2021, John Wells via groups.io wrote:

I am very new to NVDA, having used Jaws for years. I still use windows live mail for my emails and the braille works fine with jaws. However, when I open an
email using NVDA the text is read to me but the braille simply lands on the word payne and does not move.  You suggested I press NVDA plus control T. What
is the key for NVDA in this case please. John Wells.


Re: Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display

John Wells
 

Hi Quentin,
 
I am very new to NVDA, having used Jaws for years. I still use windows live mail for my emails and the braille works fine with jaws. However, when I open an email using NVDA the text is read to me but the braille simply lands on the word payne and does not move.  You suggested I press NVDA plus control T. What is the key for NVDA in this case please. John Wells.
 
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 6:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display
 
What do you have braille tethered to?  By default it is tethered "Automatically" which moves between the review cursor and focus automatically.  Sometimes this doesn't work as intended.  If you press NVDA+control+t it will change the Braille tether.
 
Also, what are you reading your mail in?  (And what version?)
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 4:02 AM John Wells via groups.io <johnwellsjoseph@...> wrote:
Can someone offer help please. I am new to NVDA and have a small problem. When I go to my emails, NVDA will read the list in braille and also announce the list with speech. However, when I open an email, the speech is perfect but the braille merely shows the word “payne”. Which settings need to be amended please. I am running Windows 10 and my braille reader is an Esys 80 cell display. I am using windows live mail for my emails and this problem does not occur when I use Jaws.
 
I thank you in anticipation of your assistance. John Wells.
 
 
 
 
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Training and Support Manager


Re: learning python

Luke Davis
 

While NotepadPlusPlus has been mentioned here, I didn't hear mention of the NVDA add-on for it. The add-on is particularly useful while programming in NPP.
It can be had at the usual place.

Luke

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Don H wrote:

I have downloaded and installed python 3 on my system. I downloaded some sample programs. I can choose to edit one of the programs using Idle 3.9. Doing this opens what I assume is Idle but NVDA will read nothing in this screen. What am I missing.


Re: right clicking

Luke Davis
 

I wonder if Microsoft's mouse keys feature is identical to the right and left click of the mouse, in situations where "any screen reader's emulation" is insufficient?

Just random pondering.

Luke


Re: Problem with NVDA, email, and Esys 80 cell Braille display

Quentin Christensen
 

What do you have braille tethered to?  By default it is tethered "Automatically" which moves between the review cursor and focus automatically.  Sometimes this doesn't work as intended.  If you press NVDA+control+t it will change the Braille tether.

Also, what are you reading your mail in?  (And what version?)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 4:02 AM John Wells via groups.io <johnwellsjoseph=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Can someone offer help please. I am new to NVDA and have a small problem. When I go to my emails, NVDA will read the list in braille and also announce the list with speech. However, when I open an email, the speech is perfect but the braille merely shows the word “payne”. Which settings need to be amended please. I am running Windows 10 and my braille reader is an Esys 80 cell display. I am using windows live mail for my emails and this problem does not occur when I use Jaws.
 
I thank you in anticipation of your assistance. John Wells.
 
 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: right clicking

 

Gene,

          You've given perfect examples are the very rare things I'm thinking about, and it's really handy to have a mouse or mouse pad "prepared for blind use" in those instances.  It can make what is otherwise inaccessible, accessible.  For anyone, in any setting, knowing clever workarounds often makes the difference between frustration and failure and success.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: right clicking

Gene
 

There are times on web [pages where a left click must be used because a control isn't coded to work from the keeyboard. there are programs where you need to click but I don't know if that is more than a rather small percent.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] right clicking

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 01:40 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I had learned that right click usually meant pressing the applications key, and I'm not sure I've ever needed a left click.-
In 99.99999999% of cases, once you have selected something and have focus on it, hitting the menu/applications key is precisely the same as a right click. You can also reliably use SHIFT+F10, whether or not your keyboard has an applications key.

You would likely very seldom need a left click unless there's some sort of misbehavior with hitting enter to activate.

But I have found the left click and right click emulations for every screen reader I've ever worked with to be hit and miss. Whereas using their functionality to route the mouse to whatever has screen reader focus, then using an actual left or right click when either is needed, always works. It's really a matter of suiting what you're doing to a given situation.

I want to make clear that I am not, in any way, discouraging the use of keyboard commands for bringing up the context menu, which is what a right click with a mouse generally does. But if, for some reason, they don't, there is the very rare occasion where an actual mouse right click does. I wish I had logged the specific circumstances, but I've had instances where that was the case. They're admittedly quite rare, but then bugs with the most basic of Windows commands generally are.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

~ Anton Chekhov


Re: right clicking

 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 01:40 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I had learned that right click usually meant pressing the applications key, and I'm not sure I've ever needed a left click.
-
In 99.99999999% of cases, once you have selected something and have focus on it, hitting the menu/applications key is precisely the same as a right click.  You can also reliably use SHIFT+F10, whether or not your keyboard has an applications key.

You would likely very seldom need a left click unless there's some sort of misbehavior with hitting enter to activate.

But I have found the left click and right click emulations for every screen reader I've ever worked with to be hit and miss.  Whereas using their functionality to route the mouse to whatever has screen reader focus, then using an actual left or right click when either is needed, always works.  It's really a matter of suiting what you're doing to a given situation.

I want to make clear that I am not, in any way, discouraging the use of keyboard commands for bringing up the context menu, which is what a right click with a mouse generally does.  But if, for some reason, they don't, there is the very rare occasion where an actual mouse right click does.  I wish I had logged the specific circumstances, but I've had instances where that was the case.  They're admittedly quite rare, but then bugs with the most basic of Windows commands generally are.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Russell James
 

Someone I know said that you may get audio support on Hyper V if you use MS RDP and connect to the Hyper V that way


On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:29 PM Russell James via groups.io <4rjames=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks for starting this conversation!

I didn't know audio was not supported with Hyper V!
If this really is not possible this is a huge problem.

Another thing that is a problem is connection to USB devices from Hyper V

I wonder how the Windows license works with Hyper V...

I've used Virtual Box for many things over the years
Those are not a problem for VBOX.
It has a CLI for the manager if the GUI does not address your needs.

Some day I'd like to use VMWare
However, VBOX is free!

I tried to take a course on Coursera that used some sort of VM in the cloud
I could tell it was a Windows VM and I got NVDA installed
I couldn't figure out how to make the audio work
I contacted support and never got a resolution...
Maybe that was based on Hyper V...

Russ

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 4:42 PM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
I had the same problem in regards to the sound being disabled.
I also required sighted assistance in installing NVDA on the virtual machine.
I now have 2 clones I made from the main virtual machine, both of which have NVDA.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

I used VmWare when I took a networking class a few years ago and found it quite easy to use. I'd need a refresher on some of its commands now as it's been about five years since I've used it, but I found it quite usable with NVDA. I'll mention the problems I had with it even though they have nothing to do with VmWare itself:
1. This could be a problem with any virtual machine, there are so many files associated with it that I had a hard time figuring out which file to open in order to start the machine.
2. Once the machines were configured, I needed sighted assistance to install a screen reader. When I did get NVDA installed in Server 2008, the sound device was disabled, so we had to change that in order to get NVDA to work.

On 2/27/21, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
> Hi.
> I am actually using VMware work station pro for my computer networking
> class right now.
> I am not familiar with HyperV but I was hoping to hear of another
> blind person's experiences with VMware work station as I don't know
> anyone else who uses it.
> Now that my professor fixed it so that the virtual machines appear in
> the list of tabs I find VMware  work station much easier to use.
> I can press alt t and see the virtual machines in the list of tabs.
> If I press enter on one I can then press control b to power it on.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash
> Kakkar
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:45 PM
> To: blindtech@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA
>
> Hi all,
>
> So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my
> virtualisation needs.
>
> Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?
>
> What shortcut keys are there?
>
> How to switch to guest OS?
>
> How to switch to host OS?
>
> Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.
>
> Please help me
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Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


The company use Sip, yes.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:48:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Yes, it should be. When using voice over IP, the security is usually down to the server you're connecting to. Softphones are clients for the most part and respect the server's security policies. Both clients I have recommended are sip clients. If your company does not use sip, this could be more of a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:32, Afik Souffir wrote:

I’ll try it
Is it secure? 
The IT will not accept it if its not secure. 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:24:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

Regarding express talk, I don't think that has any toolbars, or it didn't when I last tried it. Regarding foner lite, you can run it as a portable app if installation's going to be a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:21, Afik Souffir wrote:

Thank you. I’ll try phone lite, i’ll ask the IT for aproval for this.

About NCH, is it still install some toolbars with all there programs? 
I don’t know if they’ll want free program.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:14:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Yes, it should be. When using voice over IP, the security is usually down to the server you're connecting to. Softphones are clients for the most part and respect the server's security policies. Both clients I have recommended are sip clients. If your company does not use sip, this could be more of a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:32, Afik Souffir wrote:

I’ll try it
Is it secure? 
The IT will not accept it if its not secure. 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:24:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

Regarding express talk, I don't think that has any toolbars, or it didn't when I last tried it. Regarding foner lite, you can run it as a portable app if installation's going to be a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:21, Afik Souffir wrote:

Thank you. I’ll try phone lite, i’ll ask the IT for aproval for this.

About NCH, is it still install some toolbars with all there programs? 
I don’t know if they’ll want free program.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:14:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


I’ll try it
Is it secure? 
The IT will not accept it if its not secure. 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:24:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

Regarding express talk, I don't think that has any toolbars, or it didn't when I last tried it. Regarding foner lite, you can run it as a portable app if installation's going to be a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:21, Afik Souffir wrote:

Thank you. I’ll try phone lite, i’ll ask the IT for aproval for this.

About NCH, is it still install some toolbars with all there programs? 
I don’t know if they’ll want free program.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:14:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

Regarding express talk, I don't think that has any toolbars, or it didn't when I last tried it. Regarding foner lite, you can run it as a portable app if installation's going to be a problem.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:21, Afik Souffir wrote:

Thank you. I’ll try phone lite, i’ll ask the IT for aproval for this.

About NCH, is it still install some toolbars with all there programs? 
I don’t know if they’ll want free program.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:14:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


Thank you. I’ll try phone lite, i’ll ask the IT for aproval for this.

About NCH, is it still install some toolbars with all there programs? 
I don’t know if they’ll want free program.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:14:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:07:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Question about NVDA core functionality

 

Hi,

I think several factors can play a part in answering this question:

  1. Community discussion and need: I understand that there is huge demand from the NVDA community to have some add-ons (or parts of them) integrated into NVDA.
  2. Willingness from add-on authors to collaborate: will add-on authors show willingness to collaborate with users and NV Access to bring their add-ons to NVDA, or ask someone to look into it? Ideally add-on authors are best positioned to address demands.
  3. Getting add-on source code ready for NVDA integration: the add-ons community uses same coding guidelines as NVDA screen reader itself (one of them is using tabs instead of spaces to denote indentation levels). The issue has to do with preparing the add-on source code to keep up with ever changing nature of screen reading, namely changes to NVDA that sometimes can break compatibility. Folks who read source code for my add-ons (including Windows 10 app Essentials) may notice that I follow NVDA coding guidelines very closely to prepare for a day when add-ons are integrated into NVDA, and in some cases, I prepare to support post-integration process. Although details are discussed in NVDA add-ons and development lists, suffice to say that I keep up with NVDA changes almost in real-time (i.e. Git commits).
  4. Testing and feedback: it isn’t enough to get add-ons or parts of them into NVDA. People must show willingness to test and provide timely feedback. This is one reason why I encourage people to provide feedback on add-ons so bugs can be resolved quickly; at least “quickly” because add-ons are almost standalone piece of software; imagine add-ons being integrated into NVDA and you can see why testing becomes more important.

In short, anyone willing to ask for an add-on or parts of it to be integrated into NVDA must have a visionary mindset and ability to plan with precision. The first step to doing that is not asking which add-on you wish to see in NVDA itself, but asking yourself, “what will NVDA look like in at least five years from now”. The second step is learning to build patience – integrating an add-on into NVDA takes time because NV Access must balance user requests, standards, and market trends (Windows 10 Calculator support, for example, lived in Windows 10 App Essentials for more than five years before making its appearance as part of NVDA 2020.4). The third step is willingness to think like NVDA core developers- moving from writing add-ons to actually contributing code to NVDA screen reader is similar to stepping into a new culture and will require you to practice rigor.

So what can users do? Keep the conversation going and ask add-on authors if they are willing to collaborate with you on at least thinking about bringing their add-ons to NVDA provided that there is community request. If authors says “yes”, that’s great. If not, at least try justifying it, and if authors still says “no”, then that’s all folks can do for now (at least users tried their thing). Ideally you should ask the original author of a given add-on, but if you can’t contact them, at least ask the person who have maintained it until recently unless that person told the community they are not willing to maintain it (I’ll provide responses for my add-ons upon request).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA core functionality

 

Hi.  I know that add-on updater and some parts of Windows 10 app essentials will be added to NVDA core functionality in a future release.  Is it possible, or feasible to treat add-ons like clipspeak in the same way?  When I'm using NVDA on someone else's computer, I only use the core functionality because I'm using an installed copy rather than a portable one.

Thanks,

Louise.


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Iván Novegil
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


Regards.

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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:


Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 


Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 

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