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Re: Use the speech recognition training program

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Yeti,

I haven't used speech recognition lately, but you have two options:

- Joseph Lee's Windows 10 App Essentials add-on now supports the built in speech recognition: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html
- Dictation Bridge is another add-on which also supports Dragon if you use that platform: http://dictationbridge.com/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 4:06 PM Yeti <jbslists@...> wrote:
Hello List,

is there any way to effectively use the voice recognition
training program on Windows 10 with NVDA?
A setting or an add-on?
Or an accessible alternative to do the training.

My current problem is that I always have to spend annoying
time looking for the text that is to be spoken.
It cannot be focused and is not spoken automatically.

System: W10 64 and NVDA both in the last stable version.

Thank you very much for reading

yeti








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Training and Support Manager


Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Bob, and David,

Thanks for your revert,
will check the object navigater in help and get back .
still it was a valid information.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin

On 3/15/21, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
By using the object navigation commands, you can move the review cursor to
what you need! Then, move the mouse to the spot where you moved the review
cursor to, by holding the caps lock and shift down, and tapping the letter
Ŋn. now, just left or right click the mouse! This is like moving the JAWS
cursor to a point and doing a mouse click! Moving the NVDA’S review cursor
involves using keyboard commands! Those commands are found in chapters 3,
4, and 5 of the NVDA guide which can be found under the NVDA Help menu!
Object navigation is getting to where the system or PC cursor cannot go!

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 11:51 PM Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio
Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin










Re: Logging on to groups.io causes NVDA 2020.4 to crash

Quentin Christensen
 

Coming in late, but how did you go with this issue Louise?

If it's still crashing, and you've tried restarting with add-ons disabled etc, I'd be interested if you could please send me a debug log, and as NVDA is crashing, there should also be an NVDA_crash.dmp file in the %temp% folder as well which could be very useful.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:43 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 07:37 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I'm pretty sure restarting the computer should be the first step. :)
-
Agreed.  And I covered that in the personal dope slap follow up message, as it's the first thing in my list of The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues, and the others you mention are numbers two and three, in the same order you mention.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

David Moore
 

By using the object navigation commands, you can move the review cursor to what you need! Then, move the mouse to the spot where you moved the review cursor to, by holding the caps lock and shift down, and tapping the letter Ŋn. now, just left or right click the mouse! This is like moving the JAWS cursor to a point and doing a mouse click! Moving the NVDA’S review cursor involves using keyboard commands! Those commands are found in chapters 3, 4, and 5 of the NVDA guide  which can be found under the NVDA Help menu! Object navigation is getting to where the system or PC cursor cannot go!


On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 11:51 PM Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@...> wrote:
Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my  PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin






Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

All good questions, but I only have an answer for #5, and don't worry
about mentioning JAWS, happens on this list frequently. NVDA uses
something called object navigation, but I'm not an expert in it so am
probably not the best person to answer your questions about it. I'm
sure others will be able to though.

On 3/14/21, Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin






REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

 

You're correct that >> is an append redirect while > is a "wipe out whatever may have been there, if anything, and start afresh" redirect.

I was only addressing the first step in my example.  You're absolutely correct that all subsequent steps where you wanted to retain whatever had been logged previously would need to use the >> as the redirect form.

If you don't want retention then > is what you want to use at any step where you want to start the log from scratch.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

Brian Tew
 

If that method of appending does not append you might try two greater than signs thus:
dir >> logfile.txt


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

 

One of the old tricks that I used to use under Unix, and I believe it works under Windows Command Prompt and PowerShell as well, was redirecting the output and error output from my first command in a script to a log file that I knew the name of, and for each subsequent command append redirecting the same (that is, if you need to have a comprehensive history of the entire set of steps logged - if not, then a straight redirect at each step and having notepad open the resulting file immediately afterward makes life much easier.

An example of same, in command prompt, using the output of the dir command:

dir > logfile.log 2>&1 && notepad logfile.log

This opens the logfile in notepad automatically after the dir command completes.  But, it does NOT stop continued execution of the bat file.  If you want pauses you need to specifically put those in.  You'd also want to exit notepad after each examination if you were continuing to append, as once something's open in notepad it's not going to auto update in the existing window as you append to it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

Jason Bratcher
 

I can't answer your second question, but I can answer your first one.
NVDARemote Does Not pipe sound from the controlled computer proper, just the speech from the remote side.

--
Jason Bratcher


Re: NVDA not reading books in kindle book viewer

Richard B. McDonald
 

Actually, there is a way to list only books with screen reader support.  When you first do a search on Amazon under Kindle, there appears a bunch of filters.  One of them, and it is one of the last of many, is a check box to list only books with screen reader support.


Re: NVDA not reading books in kindle book viewer

Rowen Cary
 

HI Alexandre!
Thank you for answering my questions.
As far as I know, there are very few books that support screen readers, especially Chinese books.


Re: some messages are very slow in Outlook

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Another email program isn't an option for this, as the messages in
question have already been sent to my account using Outlook. I have
since switched most of my emails to the account I'm posting from now,
where I am currently, and have always, used the Gmail web interface.

On 3/13/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If this is enough of a problem, try reading messages as plain text and see
what happens. Also, you could try using another e-mail program and see what

happens. Firefox has a setting to use simple HTML. That setting allows
messages to use HTML for such things as formatting, but doesn't allow
anything to run or any HTML to do anything in a message except that which

displays formatting and which allows you to follow links.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 1:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some messages are very slow in Outlook

Bob,

I have seen this and suspect the problem is the HTML markup of the messages.

Uber's messages would have some very cluttered HTML and perhaps javascript
which could be slowing NVDA down.

Pranav












Re: NVDA not reading books in kindle book viewer

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

As far as I know, there is no way to list books with screen reader support. And even worst, you may buy a book with screen reader support and they update the book and the new version is not screen reader enabled.

I had a hard dispute with amazon because it happened with 2 books I bought.

After a while, the screen reader support was restablished.



Em 13/03/2021 23:47, Rowen Cary escreveu:

In kindle, I hardly find any books that support screen readers. Is there any way we can filter to show all books that support screen readers?

Thanks


Re: NVDA not reading books in kindle book viewer

Rowen Cary
 

In kindle, I hardly find any books that support screen readers. Is there any way we can filter to show all books that support screen readers?

Thanks


locked Re: Admin's Note: Re: I have a new text to speech voice available for purchase. #adminnotice

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


I think the company was mine... Tiflotecnia, Lda., maker of one of the Vocalizer Expressive versions available...

No, we will not sell your voice without talking with you...


The voice works very well and it is really expressive!


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 07:29 de 12/03/2021, Jackson Blackford escreveu:

All of these questions are good questions, and I will try to answer them all right now. The reason it is so good for only 5 dollars is because I want a very good TTS voice that anyone who needs it or wants it can use, but not have to spend a lot of money. It is a real TTS voice, not me talking. I recorded 755 long phrases to make the voice, and that's why it's so good. I already had a customer earlier but it was a company. I don't know why a TTS voice company wanted to buy my voice, but as long as they aren't planning on selling it, I guess it's OK. The person who said I wanted to get started and that I am a young creator is right. I am just getting started. The good news is that you don't have to use NVDA to use the voice, as it is SAPI5. I don't have a lot of money, that's why I couldn't make an add-on for NVDA. I haven't the slightest clue where to even begin with creating an add-on by myself. I hope my answers helped. However, I have one more thing to say. I don't think it's right to get suspicious about something that was just started. If someone gave a bad review, that would make sense. However, for people to keep making other people think that it's bad is not acceptable until there is evidence there is something bad. I hope that company who bought the voice from me for 5 dollars can tell you that it works and they can even post a video of them using it if they want to. Thanks.


Re: Thunderbird anounces new messages

Chris Smart
 

no problem.

On 2021-03-13 3:10 p.m., Hettie wrote:
Sorry for the mistake, I was so irritated with the announcements that I posted to the wrong list.

Thanks for the instructions, will follow them.


Hettie


On 3/13/2021 9:00 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
That is not an NVDA question.


Anyway, go to Tools, Options, General, and navigate to the level 1 heading "incoming messages". Right below that are checkboxes that tell Thunderbird how you want to be notified when new mail arrives. One of them is "play a sound".









Re: Thunderbird anounces new messages

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

Hi Gene

Thanks for the instructions, it works fine now.

Please contact me off list for further discussion at

woehler.hettie.co.za


Hettie

On 3/13/2021 9:41 PM, Gene wrote:
By default, the program plays the default Windows sound for incoming mail. If you want to see what setting is being used, you can checck in the following manner:
When you are in the main window of the program, issue the command alt t.  Up arrow once to options and press enter.
Start tabbing.  You will get to a check box that says play a sound.  Check it with the space bar if it isn't checked.
Then tab until you get to a radio button that says something like play default sound.  If it says something else like play another file, let us know.

There are one or two things to know to make working with the options interface much more accessible.  I'll explain them if you wish.

When you have finished working in options, close it with control f4, not alt f4.  Control f4 will return you to the main program window.  Alt f4 will close the program and when you open it again, you will be in options again.

The reason you need to use control f4 is because options is a tab, not a separate window in this program.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Hettie
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird anounces new messages

Hi all

Where do I set Thunderbird to beep when new mail arrives?


Thanks


Hettie












Re: Thunderbird anounces new messages

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

Sorry for the mistake, I was so irritated with the announcements that I posted to the wrong list.

Thanks for the instructions, will follow them.


Hettie

On 3/13/2021 9:00 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
That is not an NVDA question.


Anyway, go to Tools, Options, General, and navigate to the level 1 heading "incoming messages". Right below that are checkboxes that tell Thunderbird how you want to be notified when new mail arrives. One of them is "play a sound".






Re: Thunderbird anounces new messages

Gene
 

By default, the program plays the default Windows sound for incoming mail. If you want to see what setting is being used, you can checck in the following manner:
When you are in the main window of the program, issue the command alt t. Up arrow once to options and press enter.
Start tabbing. You will get to a check box that says play a sound. Check it with the space bar if it isn't checked.
Then tab until you get to a radio button that says something like play default sound. If it says something else like play another file, let us know.

There are one or two things to know to make working with the options interface much more accessible. I'll explain them if you wish.

When you have finished working in options, close it with control f4, not alt f4. Control f4 will return you to the main program window. Alt f4 will close the program and when you open it again, you will be in options again.

The reason you need to use control f4 is because options is a tab, not a separate window in this program.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Hettie
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2021 12:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird anounces new messages

Hi all

Where do I set Thunderbird to beep when new mail arrives?


Thanks


Hettie

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