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Re: reading my documents folder

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you done the troubleshooting steps recommended on this list to see if it is a windows and not an nvda issue? Look in the group archives for more information, earlier today in fact, I think? I get the feeling this is not nvda releated as I've seen this in windows before. It fixes itself in my case.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading my documents folder

Running latest win 10 and latest NVDA.
It is real close to half the time I open the documents ffolder NVDA will not read it. Sighted help says it is on the screen as it should be.
The solution is to close and reopen it and things read normally. Anyone got a clue as to what is causing this?
Thanks


Re: Set NVDA Modifier as a Sticky Key

Ted Galanos
 

www.GalanosConsulting.com
713-396-3495


Thanks Tyler, but NVDA reports that I have this installed already. This must be the add on I described earlier. Can we get in touch and maybe make it work better?

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 1:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Set NVDA Modifier as a Sticky Key

Hi.
If you use the sticky keys feature of Windows, the NVDA modifier automatically becomes sticky.

If you don't want to use sticky keys, try this addon I wrote a while ago for a similar question. Once you install it, the NVDA modifier becomes sticky for one press and should do what you want.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kef0p7qmr2rgkxx/stickyModifier-0.1.nvda-addon?dl=1

If this doesn't work, please tell me why and what you want it to do, since I don't use an input system like this, and I might be able to come up with something better.


On 3/15/2021 10:41 AM, Ted Galanos wrote:
Good afternoon, list.

My name is Ted and it is my first time on this list. My primary screen
reader has been JAWS for almost 25 years. I do use NVDA on the rare
occasion JAWS quits unexpectedly. There is a feature in the JAWS
Settings Center called Insert Mode.This is off by default, but when
turned on, the JAWS key becomes a stickey key. I use two switches in
order to type and navigate using an expanded version of morse code
through an alternative navigation device. This effectively means I am
a one-finger typist. Several years ago, someone found for me an NVDA
plug in or add on that made the NVDA key a sticky key, but it was very
clumsy to use. First, you had to activate the add on. Then perform the task.
And finally, dactivate the add on. It is also worth noting that the
CAPS LOCK is not a viable alternative. I am wondering if there may be
a more updated and streamline solution? Thanks to Joseph Lee for
telling me about this list.

Ted Galanos


Re: StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #addonrelease

Sarah k Alawami
 

I assume that I’m fine with the version of the updates I’m running now. Is it compulsory to update? If not I will wait until they are available in the nvda add on updater.

 

Tc all.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

Something beyond my control at the moment, but am looking into it. Based on what I can tell, this is not an issue with Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

 

What is the reason for the manual update?  Is there a problem with addon updater? Thanks.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 21.03 are now available. Note that these releases are manual updates so you must:

  1. Download updates from the links specified.
  2. Disable updates for these add-ons from Add-on Updater until further notice.

 

Key changes:

  • StationPlaylist: improved compatibility with NVDA 2020.4 and many bug fixes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: initial support for Windows 10 Version 21H1 (build 19043).

 

Download links:

 

Cheers,

Joseph


reading my documents folder

Don H
 

Running latest win 10 and latest NVDA.
It is real close to half the time I open the documents ffolder NVDA will not read it. Sighted help says it is on the screen as it should be. The solution is to close and reopen it and things read normally. Anyone got a clue as to what is causing this?
Thanks


Re: StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Something beyond my control at the moment, but am looking into it. Based on what I can tell, this is not an issue with Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

 

What is the reason for the manual update?  Is there a problem with addon updater? Thanks.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 21.03 are now available. Note that these releases are manual updates so you must:

  1. Download updates from the links specified.
  2. Disable updates for these add-ons from Add-on Updater until further notice.

 

Key changes:

  • StationPlaylist: improved compatibility with NVDA 2020.4 and many bug fixes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: initial support for Windows 10 Version 21H1 (build 19043).

 

Download links:

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #addonrelease

matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic483@...>
 

Hi,

 

What is the reason for the manual update?  Is there a problem with addon updater? Thanks.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 21.03 are now available. Note that these releases are manual updates so you must:

  1. Download updates from the links specified.
  2. Disable updates for these add-ons from Add-on Updater until further notice.

 

Key changes:

  • StationPlaylist: improved compatibility with NVDA 2020.4 and many bug fixes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: initial support for Windows 10 Version 21H1 (build 19043).

 

Download links:

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Set NVDA Modifier as a Sticky Key

Tyler Spivey
 

Hi.
If you use the sticky keys feature of Windows, the NVDA modifier automatically becomes sticky.

If you don't want to use sticky keys, try this addon I wrote a while ago for a similar question. Once you install it, the NVDA modifier becomes sticky for one press and should do what you want.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kef0p7qmr2rgkxx/stickyModifier-0.1.nvda-addon?dl=1

If this doesn't work, please tell me why and what you want it to do, since I don't use an input system like this, and I might be able to come up with something better.

On 3/15/2021 10:41 AM, Ted Galanos wrote:
Good afternoon, list.
My name is Ted and it is my first time on this list. My primary screen reader has been JAWS for almost 25 years. I do use NVDA on the rare occasion JAWS quits unexpectedly. There is a feature in the JAWS Settings Center called Insert Mode.This is off by default, but when turned on, the JAWS key becomes a stickey key. I use two switches in order to type and navigate using an expanded version of morse code through an alternative navigation device. This effectively means I am a one-finger typist. Several years ago, someone found for me an NVDA plug in or add on that made the NVDA key a sticky key, but it was very clumsy to use. First, you had to activate the add on. Then perform the task. And finally, dactivate the add on. It is also worth noting that the CAPS LOCK is not a viable alternative. I am wondering if there may be a more updated and streamline solution? Thanks to Joseph Lee for telling me about this list.
Ted Galanos


Set NVDA Modifier as a Sticky Key

Ted Galanos
 

[Moderator's Note:  I've removed the phone numbers from the end of this message, as it's generally not a good idea to post these on groups where the archives are public.  Ted, if you really prefer these remain in place, then just leave them there on subsequent messages and I won't touch them.  This gives you an opportunity to decide for yourself whether you really want your phone numbers posted on a group where the archives are searchable by anyone (including bots trying to cull phone numbers).]

Good afternoon, list.

My name is Ted and it is my first time on this list. My primary screen reader has been JAWS for almost 25 years. I do use NVDA on the rare occasion JAWS quits unexpectedly. There is a feature in the JAWS Settings Center called Insert Mode.This is off by default, but when turned on, the JAWS key becomes a stickey key. I use two switches in order to type and navigate using an expanded version of morse code through an alternative navigation device. This effectively means I am a one-finger typist. Several years ago, someone found for me an NVDA plug in or add on that made the NVDA key a sticky key, but it was very clumsy to use. First, you had to activate the add on. Then perform the task. And finally, dactivate the add on. It is also worth noting that the CAPS LOCK is not a viable alternative. I am wondering if there may be a more updated and streamline solution? Thanks to Joseph Lee for telling me about this list.

 

Ted Galanos


StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentails 21.03 manual updates #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 21.03 are now available. Note that these releases are manual updates so you must:

  1. Download updates from the links specified.
  2. Disable updates for these add-ons from Add-on Updater until further notice.

 

Key changes:

  • StationPlaylist: improved compatibility with NVDA 2020.4 and many bug fixes.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: initial support for Windows 10 Version 21H1 (build 19043).

 

Download links:

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Use the speech recognition training program

Yeti
 

Hi Quentin,

 

> Joseph Lee's Windows 10 App Essentials add-on now supports the

> built in speech recognition

 

I've read that before, but unfortunately that doesn't solve the problem.

Possibilities:

- The add-on does not work properly with the training program with a German W10.

- Some steps have to be taken before. I haven't had time to read the add-on help by now L

 

Thx

 

Yeti


Re: No speech when running NVDA.

Quentin Christensen
 

Jumping in late to this one - but how did you go Ari?  I see everyone suggested basically all the things I would have.

If all else fails, you can send me a copy of your NVDA log which you should find in your %temp% folder, although resetting the settings should fix it (NVDA+control+r three times quickly) if nothing else.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 7:35 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi Ari


If you have sounds when you go to start nvda does it make a sound then
go quite? If you use the windows key + letter D will it talk on the desk
top. as at times when it goes to the task bar people think it is not
working.

Using the arrow keys will speak out any thing there.


You might have speech mode turned off If this is the case use the nvda
key + letter S to toogle it to speech mode talk.



You can also reset nvda back to factory defaults if it comes up or use
the shortcut nvda key + ctrl key + the letter R 3 times unless you do it
through the menu.

but make sure if you do this after you go through the menu to load it at
startup etc this is the one you get whenn you do a fresh install of nvda
with setting desktop etc.

make sure  you get this message. You might have to restart nvda for it
to come up.

Hopefully that fixes the problem.


I am guessing the nvda.ini file might of got corrupted some how.


If this is the case I think you said you uninstalled nvda from the
computer there is another place to delete the settings from.


Press the windows key + the letter R then type in the following
%appdata% then press the enter key. It will give you a list of folders
locate the nvda folder then delete it out then use the alt key + f4 key
to close that screen .


That nice fresh copy of nvda install that to the pc and it should be
right to go.


You might have to use another screen reader narrator will do the trick
to do the above mentioned or a pair of eyes.


Gene nz


On 13/03/2021 2:26 pm, Arianna Sepulveda wrote:
> Hello, everyone,
>
>
>   I recently started having this issue--probably a few days ago. I've
> done everything I can think of, save updating Windows 10 to the
> absolute latest version--though I don't think that should make that
> much of an issue, since I'm only on the release before this latest
> update. Anyhow, here's my issue. I was running NVDA when all of a
> sudden, it stopped speaking. I booted up Narrator and exited NVDA then
> tried to bring up NVDA again, with no luck. I then tried restarting
> the computer, and still nothing changed. I left the computer alone for
> a few days, but when I came back to it today, I still had the same
> problem. I figured, at this point, that I had nothing to lose, and
> uninstalled and reinstalled NVDA, getting the latest version from
> NVDA's website. The install screen spoke, but as soon as it was
> installed, I suddenly had no speech. I have no idea what I can do at
> this point. I have absolutely no ad-ons installed, the volume is up in
> the synthesizer dialogue, and I switched to ESpeak, just in case.
> Absolutely nothing has worked. I know my Surface isn't muted,
> obviously, because I'm getting speech both from Narrator and from
> JAWS.
>
> Does anyone know what this issue could possibly be? I'm  extremely
> frustrated. I haven't used JAWS in quite a long time, and rather
> dislike it. The caps lock key no longer works as the JAWS key for a
> laptop, and I really miss the synth ring. Also, I feel like JAWS isn't
> as good on the web as NVDA. I had to get my husband's help with
> accepting the terms of service for a public WiFi network, because I
> couldn't even use the stupid JAWS cursor because of the aforementioned
> caps lock JAWS key issue. I would have had no such issue with this
> webpage with NVDA. If I couldn't navigate to it with the standard
> keys, I could most-likeley have gotten to it with Object Nav. Arrowing
> through the page with JAWS just got me to some explanatory text, and
> the stupid accept terms of service checkbox, but never to the button
> to finish the process of connecting. Anyhow, I'm hoping someone has
> some suggestions.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>
>
>
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Use the speech recognition training program

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Yeti,

I haven't used speech recognition lately, but you have two options:

- Joseph Lee's Windows 10 App Essentials add-on now supports the built in speech recognition: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html
- Dictation Bridge is another add-on which also supports Dragon if you use that platform: http://dictationbridge.com/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 4:06 PM Yeti <jbslists@...> wrote:
Hello List,

is there any way to effectively use the voice recognition
training program on Windows 10 with NVDA?
A setting or an add-on?
Or an accessible alternative to do the training.

My current problem is that I always have to spend annoying
time looking for the text that is to be spoken.
It cannot be focused and is not spoken automatically.

System: W10 64 and NVDA both in the last stable version.

Thank you very much for reading

yeti








--
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Training and Support Manager


Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Bob, and David,

Thanks for your revert,
will check the object navigater in help and get back .
still it was a valid information.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin

On 3/15/21, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
By using the object navigation commands, you can move the review cursor to
what you need! Then, move the mouse to the spot where you moved the review
cursor to, by holding the caps lock and shift down, and tapping the letter
Ŋn. now, just left or right click the mouse! This is like moving the JAWS
cursor to a point and doing a mouse click! Moving the NVDA’S review cursor
involves using keyboard commands! Those commands are found in chapters 3,
4, and 5 of the NVDA guide which can be found under the NVDA Help menu!
Object navigation is getting to where the system or PC cursor cannot go!

On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 11:51 PM Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio
Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin










Re: Logging on to groups.io causes NVDA 2020.4 to crash

Quentin Christensen
 

Coming in late, but how did you go with this issue Louise?

If it's still crashing, and you've tried restarting with add-ons disabled etc, I'd be interested if you could please send me a debug log, and as NVDA is crashing, there should also be an NVDA_crash.dmp file in the %temp% folder as well which could be very useful.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:43 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 07:37 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I'm pretty sure restarting the computer should be the first step. :)
-
Agreed.  And I covered that in the personal dope slap follow up message, as it's the first thing in my list of The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues, and the others you mention are numbers two and three, in the same order you mention.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

David Moore
 

By using the object navigation commands, you can move the review cursor to what you need! Then, move the mouse to the spot where you moved the review cursor to, by holding the caps lock and shift down, and tapping the letter Ŋn. now, just left or right click the mouse! This is like moving the JAWS cursor to a point and doing a mouse click! Moving the NVDA’S review cursor involves using keyboard commands! Those commands are found in chapters 3, 4, and 5 of the NVDA guide  which can be found under the NVDA Help menu! Object navigation is getting to where the system or PC cursor cannot go!


On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 11:51 PM Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@...> wrote:
Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my  PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin






Re: REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

All good questions, but I only have an answer for #5, and don't worry
about mentioning JAWS, happens on this list frequently. NVDA uses
something called object navigation, but I'm not an expert in it so am
probably not the best person to answer your questions about it. I'm
sure others will be able to though.

On 3/14/21, Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin






REquest for Help on few NVDA questions

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Team,

I am using NVDA 2020.4 which runs Windows 10 64.
i have installed addons as well.
kindly help me with the below :
1. NVDA is not reading the Text which is there in Word 2019. it use to
read before.
2. how to navigate in Outlook web app and outlook standalone software
by 1st letter navigation, because if i have to search a mail either i
have to go to the Search and then find the mail or in the tree view i
have to use aero keys to navigate.
3. in the to/ cc fields how to copy a mail id or make NVDA to read the
id phonetically .
4. do we have any work around for NVDA to work in Real tech audio Console.
5. how to use virtual curser or a do we have a option like JAWS Curser .
6. how to activate a Mouse over link in websites.

sorry for these many questions. i am accessing my PC now a days
extensivelly with NVDA . also in my 5th question i was finding
difficult to ask with out mentioning the other screen reader.
Hoping a response from our learned community.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

 

You're correct that >> is an append redirect while > is a "wipe out whatever may have been there, if anything, and start afresh" redirect.

I was only addressing the first step in my example.  You're absolutely correct that all subsequent steps where you wanted to retain whatever had been logged previously would need to use the >> as the redirect form.

If you don't want retention then > is what you want to use at any step where you want to start the log from scratch.
--

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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

Brian Tew
 

If that method of appending does not append you might try two greater than signs thus:
dir >> logfile.txt


Re: nvda remote sound question and working on command line via laptop

 

One of the old tricks that I used to use under Unix, and I believe it works under Windows Command Prompt and PowerShell as well, was redirecting the output and error output from my first command in a script to a log file that I knew the name of, and for each subsequent command append redirecting the same (that is, if you need to have a comprehensive history of the entire set of steps logged - if not, then a straight redirect at each step and having notepad open the resulting file immediately afterward makes life much easier.

An example of same, in command prompt, using the output of the dir command:

dir > logfile.log 2>&1 && notepad logfile.log

This opens the logfile in notepad automatically after the dir command completes.  But, it does NOT stop continued execution of the bat file.  If you want pauses you need to specifically put those in.  You'd also want to exit notepad after each examination if you were continuing to append, as once something's open in notepad it's not going to auto update in the existing window as you append to it.
--

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Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 

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