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Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

 

I can understand why you want this.  Even if I were editing pure text, I know I'd prefer not to hear "no indent" if there is actually no indent.  Reading the line, as is, should imply no indent.  But I can also understand wanting that to be a toggle, there are times where hearing "no indent" can be useful as well.
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Re: windows 10 notifications

 

If the notification is still active and on display, WinKey+Shift+V.   Repeated presses should continue cycling through older notifications, but it's usually simpler just to go to the Action Center.

Otherwise, follow Mr. Maher's instructions and access your notifications list in the Action Center with WinKey+A
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locked Re: how to use my windows laptop as hot spot?

 

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 06:39 AM, sazid wrote:
my windows is 7.
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Oops, missed this part.  To my knowledge, no.

Since the free upgrade path to Windows 10 still exists, and Windows 7 is out of support . . .
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locked Re: how to use my windows laptop as hot spot?

 

As Ted has implied, that really depends on how you are defining hotspot.

If you want it to act as a real hotspot, it must have internet connectivity so that it can send data "out there" whether it has it via an internal wireless connection like smartphones use or it's just connected to the internet by WiFi.  It will use whatever connection it has in the hotspot function to get things to cyberspace.

If you want it to act as a local area network, without necessarily being in contact with cyberspace, that can be done, too.  It's really the same concept as when your modem router somehow loses connectivity to cyberspace.  Even though that's gone, all the devices that are connected to it within your home, business, whatever can still communicate with each other.

Settings, Network & Internet, Mobile Hotspot Pane.  The toggle to turn this feature on says, Share my internet connection with other devices.  And that clearly states what it does as far as a connection to the internet.  If you have no connection to the internet, then it can't be shared, but you can still have connectivity between devices with the computer acting as the router.

Any additional deep diving into this feature should occur either on the Chat Subgroup or the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group (or another venue of your choosing).
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Braille Extender hhelp

soloman s
 

Dear all,
Could someone help with Braille Extender NVDA Add-on?
I'll be thankful for ways to use this add-on.


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Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

Samuel Kacer
 

Woops, sorry I misread your reply at first glance. Well, in that case you would not turn on this setting. However, it really shouldn't be a big deal, since editors like VS code auto-delete spaces on blank lines for most languages. In fact, that behavior of VS code is partly the motivating factor for this setting.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 3:26 PM Samuel Kacer <samuel.kacer@...> wrote:
That's incorrect. With the proposed setting turned on, lines with spaces would not behave differently. only lines that are completely blank.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 3:05 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:

is this possible by some sort of regex?

Personally I want to keep the original behavior, because when doing text editing, this can prevent leaving some lines with only spaces.

Samuel Kacer 於 21/3/2021 21:01 寫道:
Hello,

as a programmer, I use indentation reporting almost every day. One particular thing that has really been annoying me for years now is is demonstrated in this scenario:

block header
  line 1

  line 2

because of the blank line with indentation reporting is read as:
block header
two space line 1
no indent blank
two space line 2

although the blank line and its lack of indentation  has no semantic meaning and does not change the block structure in any way, NVDA reports the change of indentation anyway, leading to redundant verbosity, making it much harder to focus on what is relevant.

I am not saying that NVDA shouldn't do this. this is definitely relevant information in some contexts, but I would love if there was an additional setting that would make indentation reporting ignore blank lines. so the previous line in the buffer that is compared to the new line to determine whether to announce indentation change would be the last non-blank line visited. so, the above example would read as:

block header
two space line 1
blank
line 2

I was thinking of developing an addon to enable this behaviour when I have a bit more free time, but wanted to check first if this behaviour is possible by any chance without an addon.

Thanks,
Sam


Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

Samuel Kacer
 

That's incorrect. With the proposed setting turned on, lines with spaces would not behave differently. only lines that are completely blank.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 3:05 PM William <xsuper.sillyx@...> wrote:

is this possible by some sort of regex?

Personally I want to keep the original behavior, because when doing text editing, this can prevent leaving some lines with only spaces.

Samuel Kacer 於 21/3/2021 21:01 寫道:
Hello,

as a programmer, I use indentation reporting almost every day. One particular thing that has really been annoying me for years now is is demonstrated in this scenario:

block header
  line 1

  line 2

because of the blank line with indentation reporting is read as:
block header
two space line 1
no indent blank
two space line 2

although the blank line and its lack of indentation  has no semantic meaning and does not change the block structure in any way, NVDA reports the change of indentation anyway, leading to redundant verbosity, making it much harder to focus on what is relevant.

I am not saying that NVDA shouldn't do this. this is definitely relevant information in some contexts, but I would love if there was an additional setting that would make indentation reporting ignore blank lines. so the previous line in the buffer that is compared to the new line to determine whether to announce indentation change would be the last non-blank line visited. so, the above example would read as:

block header
two space line 1
blank
line 2

I was thinking of developing an addon to enable this behaviour when I have a bit more free time, but wanted to check first if this behaviour is possible by any chance without an addon.

Thanks,
Sam


locked Re: how to use my windows laptop as hot spot?

Ted Galanos
 

I think that if your laptop has a cellular modem in it, you can use it as a hotspot. However, if it is just a regular Wi-Fi network card, then no. I, however, have used my iPhone with cellular service as a hotspot when the Internet went down in my nursing home for a weekend.

Ted Galanos
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On Mar 21, 2021, at 5:39 AM, sazid <skstraders.nlr@...> wrote:

hello friends,
can i use my laptop as hotspot for shareing data to various devices?
my windows is 7.  please reply me as early as.

thanks and regards,
sazid






Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

William
 

is this possible by some sort of regex?

Personally I want to keep the original behavior, because when doing text editing, this can prevent leaving some lines with only spaces.

Samuel Kacer 於 21/3/2021 21:01 寫道:

Hello,

as a programmer, I use indentation reporting almost every day. One particular thing that has really been annoying me for years now is is demonstrated in this scenario:

block header
  line 1

  line 2

because of the blank line with indentation reporting is read as:
block header
two space line 1
no indent blank
two space line 2

although the blank line and its lack of indentation  has no semantic meaning and does not change the block structure in any way, NVDA reports the change of indentation anyway, leading to redundant verbosity, making it much harder to focus on what is relevant.

I am not saying that NVDA shouldn't do this. this is definitely relevant information in some contexts, but I would love if there was an additional setting that would make indentation reporting ignore blank lines. so the previous line in the buffer that is compared to the new line to determine whether to announce indentation change would be the last non-blank line visited. so, the above example would read as:

block header
two space line 1
blank
line 2

I was thinking of developing an addon to enable this behaviour when I have a bit more free time, but wanted to check first if this behaviour is possible by any chance without an addon.

Thanks,
Sam


NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

Samuel Kacer
 

Hello,

as a programmer, I use indentation reporting almost every day. One particular thing that has really been annoying me for years now is is demonstrated in this scenario:

block header
  line 1

  line 2

because of the blank line with indentation reporting is read as:
block header
two space line 1
no indent blank
two space line 2

although the blank line and its lack of indentation  has no semantic meaning and does not change the block structure in any way, NVDA reports the change of indentation anyway, leading to redundant verbosity, making it much harder to focus on what is relevant.

I am not saying that NVDA shouldn't do this. this is definitely relevant information in some contexts, but I would love if there was an additional setting that would make indentation reporting ignore blank lines. so the previous line in the buffer that is compared to the new line to determine whether to announce indentation change would be the last non-blank line visited. so, the above example would read as:

block header
two space line 1
blank
line 2

I was thinking of developing an addon to enable this behaviour when I have a bit more free time, but wanted to check first if this behaviour is possible by any chance without an addon.

Thanks,
Sam


Re: NVDA closes after disconnecting from bluetooth

Yeti
 

Hello ?,

When I turn the speaker back on and it reconnects, NVDA is
closed and I need do the control alt n shortcut
I do nearly the same many times a day with a BT Headset and have no trouble with it.

What BT stack Do You use?
And what windows?

Ad Astra

Yeti


NVDA closes after disconnecting from bluetooth

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

 I'm using NVDA 2020.4 and I use bluetooth speakers for my computer that turn off after no activity for a while. When I turn the speaker back on and it reconnects, NVDA  is closed and I need do the control alt n shortcut
Has anyone experienced this and if so, any workarounds?
Thanks
If it helps, I use a JBL charge 3 . It's a great speaker by the way
Have a great day guys


Re: windows 10 notifications

Louis Maher
 

Robert,

 

Hit windows key + a  then tab around the notifications.

 

 

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Subject: [nvda] windows 10 notifications

 

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locked how to use my windows laptop as hot spot?

sazid
 

hello friends,
can i use my laptop as hotspot for shareing data to various devices?
my windows is 7. please reply me as early as.

thanks and regards,
sazid


windows 10 notifications

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Re: Question about strictly using NVDA core functionality on nonpersonal computers

Luke Davis
 

I would agree with Gene. If the add-ons come from the community site, they should be safe to use anywhere. Security is one of the tests they have to pass to get there.

That said, not all add-ons work in all versions of Windows. I don't know of any that will actually impede access to an earlier version of Windows, but the add-ons themselves might not always work.
Windows 10 App Essentials comes to mind, as one that only does certain things depending on the version of Windows, and the version of the add-on. And on Win 7 or 8 it won't do anything.

I would suggest creating the portable, and then pruning out any add-ons you don't think you'll need, or that are not community site add-ons.

Luke


Re: NVDA add-on question - Clipboard History

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Not only what others have said, but isn't there already an add-on that
does something similar, or does that just give access to the clipboard
history in 10?

On 3/20/21, Sascha Cowley via groups.io
<sascha.camille=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Furthermore, there are already programs to enable similar functionality in
earlier versions of windows.






Re: NVDA add-on question - Clipboard History

Sascha Cowley
 

Furthermore, there are already programs to enable similar functionality in earlier versions of windows.


Re: Accessible softphone programs with NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  If your company is willing to help with the cost there is a company that a lot of companies have used for years.  That would be Avaya which has been used from a hard phone to a soft phone.  Many Telemarketing companies have use it for at least 15 years.  There are script for it that Marriott uset.  These scripts are for Jaws.  However, it might be worth looking into.  Good Luck.

Dave


On 3/1/2021 12:14 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hi.

You could try foner lite?

http://phonerlite.de/download_en.htm

I believe express talk from NCH software is accessible as well, though haven't tried it in years. Another free option.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 01/03/2021 19:11, Afik Souffir wrote:

Its not working with our current phone system unfortunately.
Do you have other ideas?
Thanks

Afik


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Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible softphone programs with NVDA
 

Try MicroSIP. It's not fully accesible, but usable.


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O 01/03/2021 á(s) 20:04, Afik Souffir escribiu:

Hi,
I’m working at Strauss water.

The company wants to replace there Telephone system to a new one.
A part from that, i’m looking for accessible softphones programs with NVdA so i can work with them.
Its have to be one program that can accept calls, do outgoings calls and transfer them to other departements.

Any help will be muc appreciated 

Afik Souffir 


Re: Question about strictly using NVDA core functionality on nonpersonal computers

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You could create a portable copy of your install with all add ons. I did this to test with a now defunked shadow machine. You could do this at lat install, hope you still can now.

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On 20 Mar 2021, at 11:20, Louise Pfau wrote:

Hi.  If I use NVDA on computers that aren’t mine, I only use it with core functionality.  I’m hesitant to use add-ons when it’s not my property, particularly when I don’t use a portable copy.  I do have several add-ons installed on my personal computer though.  Do people think it’s wise to avoid using add-ons in such a case?
 
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