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Re: Need Help with Outlook 2010 Message List and NVDA 2020.4

Sky Mundell
 

Hello Kelly. I’ve had that exact same problem myself with a friends computer. There is two ways of fixing this.

  1. Alt tab into the application using the alt and the tab keys, or
  2. Press alt space to open the system menu, and press X to maximise the window.

That’s how you fix this.

Thanks, Sky

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Sapergia
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 2:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need Help with Outlook 2010 Message List and NVDA 2020.4

 

Hi,

 

Thanks, but Say All has nothing to do with our issue in this case. Emails can be read fine, it’s just the list of messages we’re having problems navigating.

 

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Re: NVDA Alpha installer

 

Nothing wrong with that!!  Hope someone who's "on the alpha team" sees this and is able to help.
 
If you are curious about "the whole GitHub thing" and the process for setting up an account and reporting, have a look at the following:

Creating a Github Account

Creating an Issue in GitHub for NVDA

MS-Word Fillable Form for an NVDA Bug Report Including Pre and Post Filling-Out Instructions
How to Unprotect a Completed Fillable Word Form so the Entire Document Can Be Copied

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NVDA Alpha installer

Samuel Villa
 

Hey I just tried to install the NVDA alpha. I think their is an error in the installer code. When I press the install NVDA on this computer it gives me a error sound within NVDA, not from windows. I do not have experience with github, so I have to post it right here. Thank you.


Re: Need Help with Outlook 2010 Message List and NVDA 2020.4

Kelly Sapergia
 

Hi,

 

Thanks, but Say All has nothing to do with our issue in this case. Emails can be read fine, it’s just the list of messages we’re having problems navigating.

 

Yours Sincerely,

Kelly John Sapergia

Show Host, Production Director, Webmaster

The Global Voice Internet Radio

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Re: Need Help with Outlook 2010 Message List and NVDA 2020.4

 

hello.
for reading emails, did you try SayAll?
does your friend use laptop or desktop keyboard layout?
insert down arrow in desktop layout which i use,
and insert a in laptop layout if i am correct.

On 3/23/21, Kelly Sapergia <ksapergia@sasktel.net> wrote:
Hi,



I recently installed the latest version of NVDA, version 2020.4, on a
friend's computer that has Outlook 2010 as the email client. We're
currently
experiencing a problem where NVDA won't read any messages when moving
through the message list. The only way we can read the message currently
focused on is by using Insert+Up Arrow. I personally use Outlook 365 on my
system without any problems, but my friend wants to stay with Outlook 2010.
Is there a setting in NVDA we need to set so it will work properly in the
message list?



Thanks.



Yours Sincerely,

Kelly John Sapergia

Show Host, Production Director, Webmaster

The Global Voice Internet Radio

www.theglobalvoice.info <http://www.theglobalvoice.info/>



Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net <http://www.ksapergia.net/>

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Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia








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Need Help with Outlook 2010 Message List and NVDA 2020.4

Kelly Sapergia
 

Hi,

 

I recently installed the latest version of NVDA, version 2020.4, on a friend’s computer that has Outlook 2010 as the email client. We’re currently experiencing a problem where NVDA won’t read any messages when moving through the message list. The only way we can read the message currently focused on is by using Insert+Up Arrow. I personally use Outlook 365 on my system without any problems, but my friend wants to stay with Outlook 2010. Is there a setting in NVDA we need to set so it will work properly in the message list?

 

Thanks.

 

Yours Sincerely,

Kelly John Sapergia

Show Host, Production Director, Webmaster

The Global Voice Internet Radio

www.theglobalvoice.info

 

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net

Business Site (KJS Productions): www.kjsproductions.com

Follow me on Twitter at: kjsapergia

 


Re: Is there a way to turn off announcement of table column and row headings?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Actually that's not entirely accurate, as the original poster could
use configuration profiles to only turn off row and column
announcements in the chosen web browser.

On 3/23/21, Louise Pfau <lpfau@telus.net> wrote:
Hi. You should also be aware that if you turn off cell coordinates in NVDA

document formatting settings, it won't announce blank cells in programs like

Excel with a tabular structure. I found a setting for headings, but I don't

know if it will read them correctly as column and row titles like JAWS
will.

Louise







Re: Is there a way to turn off announcement of table column and row headings?

Louise Pfau
 

Hi. You should also be aware that if you turn off cell coordinates in NVDA document formatting settings, it won't announce blank cells in programs like Excel with a tabular structure. I found a setting for headings, but I don't know if it will read them correctly as column and row titles like JAWS will.

Louise


Re: Clicking notifications

 

Oops, Joseph is absolutely correct about the WinKey+Shift+V shortcut.  That's what I  get for being in a rush!
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Re: Clicking notifications

 

Hi,

Windows+Shift+V (Version 1809 and later; Windows+V for older releases).

Can you tell us which notifications you are interested in interacting with (clicking), specifically under which app and task?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Clicking notifications

 

Are these actually free-floating pop-up messages, or are they being delivered through the Windows 10 notification mechanism.

The vast majority of notifications I'm getting these days, regardless of the app or application (outside of Office), show up as the slide out messages formerly known as toasts, and then get shuttled over to the Action Center if you don't interact with them.

The first thing I'd try, in order to determine exactly what's happening, is hitting CTRL+SHIFT+V as quickly as possible once you hear the notification announced, which should throw focus to it.  If it tells you to click it, hitting enter once you have focus should do the same as a mouse click.

You may also wish to consider extending the period of time a notification displays before being shuttled to the Action Center.  This can be tweaked in Settings, Ease of Access, Display Pane using the Show notifications for dropdown.  I think the default is 5 seconds, and I've got mine set to 7 seconds, but you can go as high as 5 minutes.  The available increments are 5, 7, 15, and 30 seconds along with 1 and 5 minutes.

If it's not being handled through Windows notifications then I have no idea, and would need to replicate it.  And that would also mean that it's really a question much more about how the app works, rather than how NVDA works, so a deep dive is better done on the Chat Subgroup.
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Re: Clicking notifications

 
Edited

Are these actually free-floating pop-up messages, or are they being delivered through the Windows 10 notification mechanism?

The vast majority of notifications I'm getting these days, regardless of the app or application (outside of Office), show up as the slide out messages formerly known as toasts, and then get shuttled over to the Action Center if you don't interact with them.

The first thing I'd try, in order to determine exactly what's happening, is hitting CTRL+SHIFT+V as quickly as possible once you hear the notification announced, which should throw focus to it.  If it tells you to click it, hitting enter once you have focus should do the same as a mouse click.

You may also wish to consider extending the period of time a notification displays before being shuttled to the Action Center.  This can be tweaked in Settings, Ease of Access, Display Pane using the Show notifications for dropdown.  I think the default is 5 seconds, and I've got mine set to 7 seconds, but you can go as high as 5 minutes.  The available increments are 5, 7, 15, and 30 seconds along with 1 and 5 minutes.

If it's not being handled through Windows notifications then I have no idea, and would need to replicate it.  And that would also mean that it's really a question much more about how the app works, rather than how NVDA works, so a deep dive is better done on the Chat Subgroup.
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Clicking notifications

Yeti
 

Hello List,

is there a way, to click pop up messages when they are
announced by NVDA from an app such as YourSmartPhone?

Ad Astra

Yeti


Braille Formatting

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

While reading a document with my Brailliant BI 40, the text fills the entire display for the first several pans, but then I may see one or two words and a mostly blank line until I advance the display again.  I am seeing this in Google Docs, Word and even Notepad.  Which setting do I need to change within NVDA to ensure that each advance of the display fills the entire display with text?


Thanks,
Jonathan

 


Re: Is there a way to turn off announcement of table column and row headings?

 

Hi. Yes, you can do this in NVDA's document formatting settings. Press NVDA+Ctrl+D. You can then either Tab to the option to announce row and column headers or press Alt+E twice to get to it. Hope this helps.

On 3/23/2021 2:47 AM, John J. Boyer wrote:
Hello,

I surf some websites that use tables for formatting. That is just annoying and sometimes confujsing.
Is there a way to turn off announcement of row and column headings?

Thanks,
John


Re: Is there a way to turn off announcement of table column and row headings?

Luke Davis
 

Well, you can try turning off layout tables in Browse Mode settings (NVDA+control+b), or actually turning off column and row header announcements in document formatting settings (NVDA+control+d, then alt+e twice, followed by space and enter).

I would try the layout tables thing first.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, John J. Boyer wrote:

I surf some websites that use tables for formatting. That is just annoying and sometimes confujsing.
Is there a way to turn off announcement of row and column headings?


Is there a way to turn off announcement of table column and row headings?

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

I surf some websites that use tables for formatting. That is just annoying and sometimes confujsing.
Is there a way to turn off announcement of row and column headings?

Thanks,
John

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Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

Bruno Aníbal Prieto González
 

As several have already mentioned, it also happens to me and I find it
quite annoying, it would be an interesting feature.

2021-03-22 5:03 GMT-03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:

Hi,
I advise waiting until 2021.2 cycle to do this, as speech facility has just
received a major overhaul that affected speech synthesizer and related
add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 1:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

I am also interested in this, because I've been finding this behavior
annoying lately.

I don't have time to work on it right now either, but I would imagine you
probably need to monkeypatch something in speech/__init__.py. It needs to
keep track of the previous non-zero indentation, and for each indentation
that matches it, but was separated from it by a zero indentation, suppress
indentation announcement and beeps. Possibly something in
getIndentationSpeech(), although hopefully not in getTextInfoSpeech().

Luke












Re: Ask about Vocalizer for NVDA by Tiflotecnia

Rui Fontes
 

For 2021.1 or better, for the last Alpha versions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e99eq0k38qr2gyk/vocalizer-driver_2.1.1.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 21:24 de 22/03/2021, Bernd Dorer via groups.io escreveu:

Hi rui,

will Version 2 of the driver be updated for nvda 2020.1? I ask because there are some German voices missing in version 3.

Thanks

Bernd

Am 20.03.2021 um 03:11 schrieb Rui Fontes:

Hello!


For NVDA versions between 2019.3 and 2020.4:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.2.nvda-addon


For last NVDA Alpha versions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4f9rogkvqnf8z4/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.2.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 01:59 de 20/03/2021, prem.translator@... escreveu:
The latest driver version is 3.14, which isn't compatible with NVDA 2020.4. Will there be a plan to release the new driver version soon to support the latest NVDA?

Thank you.


Re: Ask about Vocalizer for NVDA by Tiflotecnia

Bernd Dorer
 

Hi rui,

will Version 2 of the driver be updated for nvda 2020.1? I ask because there are some German voices missing in version 3.

Thanks

Bernd

Am 20.03.2021 um 03:11 schrieb Rui Fontes:

Hello!


For NVDA versions between 2019.3 and 2020.4:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.2.nvda-addon


For last NVDA Alpha versions:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4f9rogkvqnf8z4/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.2.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards,


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 01:59 de 20/03/2021, prem.translator@... escreveu:
The latest driver version is 3.14, which isn't compatible with NVDA 2020.4. Will there be a plan to release the new driver version soon to support the latest NVDA?

Thank you.


Re: NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

 

Hi,
I advise waiting until 2021.2 cycle to do this, as speech facility has just
received a major overhaul that affected speech synthesizer and related
add-ons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 1:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA indentation reporting, can it ignore blank lines?

I am also interested in this, because I've been finding this behavior
annoying lately.

I don't have time to work on it right now either, but I would imagine you
probably need to monkeypatch something in speech/__init__.py. It needs to
keep track of the previous non-zero indentation, and for each indentation
that matches it, but was separated from it by a zero indentation, suppress
indentation announcement and beeps. Possibly something in
getIndentationSpeech(), although hopefully not in getTextInfoSpeech().

Luke

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