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Re: fields don't read when creating a distribution list in winword

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'll google on how to do this. I read an article on Microsoft's help page but I was even more confused. It's a shame those fields will never be able to read. And when I try and use outlook I get "no tables found" even though I have over 900 contacts in there. Oh well. I'll investigate this further.

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On 1 Apr 2021, at 9:46, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:

There is no way these labels can be accessed - they don't work with any
screen reader. You best bed would be to create a distribution list in MS
Excel. I can't give you specific instructions as last time I needed to
do this was ages ago but the process was relatively easy.

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Important notices on upcoming add-on releases from Joseph Lee: NVDA 2020.4 requirement and other announcements

 

Hi all,

After receiving comments on Add-on Updater 21.03 release, I figured it would be best to make some announcements about upcoming add-on releases:

  • Future add-ons will require NVDA 2020.4 or later: Add-on Updater 21.03 is the first add-on to require NVDA 2020.4. This requirement will be in effect for the next release of Resource Monitor and StationPlaylist (scheduled for next week at the earliest) due to changes introduced in this NVDA release that add-ons will take advantage of (clipboard announcement in Resource Monitor, fixes required to support track column announcements in StationPlaylist).
  • Add-on Updater offers older releases of some add-ons: don’t worry about this, as it is not the fault of Add-on Updater. I expect this issue will be resolved once updates to affected add-ons are released.
  • No May 2021 release for Windows 10 App Essentials: usually I release updates to this add-on on a monthly basis. But I’m skipping May release (21.05) in order to assist with NVDA 2021.1 testing.
  • StationPlaylist add-on maintenance is slowly coming to a close: version 21.04 of this add-on (coming as early as next week) will be one of the last releases of SPL add-on from me. After this release, only localization and critical bug fixes will be released until early fall. I will maintain SPL add-on until December 31, 2021, and I hope the community can maintain it after that point.
  • ObjPad 21.04 emergency update: although I stopped maintaining this add-on for a while, upon request from community members, I’ll release an emergency version of ObjPad add-on to make it compatible with upcoming NVDA 2021.1.
  • NVDA 2021.1 will be required at least 60 days after its release: due to massive changes introduced in upcoming NVDA 2021.1, most of my add-ons will require this NVDA release. This won’t take effect until at least 60 days after NVDA 2021.1 is released in order to give you time to check other add-ons and upgrade to NVDA 2021.1.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA alpha-22160,656ecb5f issue when switching between FF profiles

john doe
 

This has been fixed in the alpha release following the one mentioned below.

At the time of this writing, alpha-22222,2e37433e is the current alpha
release and free of this bug.

Thank you for addressing this issue.

On 3/27/2021 10:12 AM, john doe wrote:
Correction, I'm seeing this issue with alpha-22160,656ecb5f

I don't have a Github account, so hopefully this regression can be
picked up from here.

On 3/27/2021 9:15 AM, john doe wrote:
Hello all,

With the latest next release of NVDA, when using firefox with multiple
profiles NVDA does not detect when I switch from one profile to an other.

In other words, I have two profiles (p1 and p2), I first start p1 then
start p2, NVDA will still "read" the content of p1 even though I'm in p2.


This looks to be a regression from the previous next release.


Please CC me as I'm not subscribed to the list.

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Re: fields don't read when creating a distribution list in winword

Luke Davis
 

Did you try with and without UIA enabled?
(NVDA+n, p, s, a, tab, space, tab several times until you reach it, space, enter.)


Re: fields don't read when creating a distribution list in winword

Lukasz Golonka
 

There is no way these labels can be accessed - they don't work with any
screen reader. You best bed would be to create a distribution list in MS
Excel. I can't give you specific instructions as last time I needed to
do this was ages ago but the process was relatively easy.

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fields don't read when creating a distribution list in winword

Sarah k Alawami
 

Steps:

 

  1. Launch NVDA.
  2. Launch winword
  3. Go to mailing, and  chose start merge, then choose meial
  4. Go back into mailings, and choose recipient list.
  5. Choose new list
  6. Try and read the field names. All you hear is “edit blank,” no labels for what this is.

I’m using nvda 2020.3 and Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.867. I tried object nav, screen review and clicking into the fields, but so far I can’t get these things to read when tabbing.

 

Thanks.


Re: Outlook Microsoft 365 Quitting and then Restarting Spontaneously with Some Messages

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Quentin,

 

So far, it hasn’t crashed with or without add-ons.  When it does, I’ll try to capture it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 01 April 2021 11:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook Microsoft 365 Quitting and then Restarting Spontaneously with Some Messages

 

Did you try without add-ons and did that make a difference?

 

Could you get me a copy of your NVDA log to have a look at please, ideally at debug level?
Please send it attached to an email to info@....  Include a description of what you have done and what isn't working as it should (so I know what it's about in case I don't get to investigate today).

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:55 PM Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Yes, I can reproduce this, but it is very random.

 

When it happens for me, NVDA is silent when I open a message, and then I hear Outlook reopen.

 

No crashes that I can detect, occur in JAWS or Narrator.

 

What I haven’t tried yet, is to disable the Outlook Extended add-on which could, of course, be another cause.

 

That’s my next trick when it starts crashing again.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: 28 March 2021 06:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook Microsoft 365 Quitting and then Restarting Spontaneously with Some Messages

 

Hello.

When opening some lengthy messages with lots of links using most recent NVDA, , Outlook will just quit and then restart itself, this never happens with Windows 10 Mail, so just wondering if anyone has experienced this phenomenon?

Thanks.

 

 


 

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Re: Outlook Microsoft 365 Quitting and then Restarting Spontaneously with Some Messages

Quentin Christensen
 

Did you try without add-ons and did that make a difference?

Could you get me a copy of your NVDA log to have a look at please, ideally at debug level?
Please send it attached to an email to info@....  Include a description of what you have done and what isn't working as it should (so I know what it's about in case I don't get to investigate today).

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.


On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:55 PM Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Yes, I can reproduce this, but it is very random.

 

When it happens for me, NVDA is silent when I open a message, and then I hear Outlook reopen.

 

No crashes that I can detect, occur in JAWS or Narrator.

 

What I haven’t tried yet, is to disable the Outlook Extended add-on which could, of course, be another cause.

 

That’s my next trick when it starts crashing again.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: 28 March 2021 06:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook Microsoft 365 Quitting and then Restarting Spontaneously with Some Messages

 

Hello.

When opening some lengthy messages with lots of links using most recent NVDA, , Outlook will just quit and then restart itself, this never happens with Windows 10 Mail, so just wondering if anyone has experienced this phenomenon?

Thanks.

 

 



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Re: Excel: Stop Saying "Formula Bar"

Pele West
 

Hi Pranav

Thanks. So far editing works well, just as it should.

Pele


Re: NVDA on Windows mobile

 

Hi,
No for two reasons:
1. Windows 10 Mobile is no longer supported by Microsoft, and OEM's
discontinued phones running Windows 10 Mobile.
2. Windows 10 Mobile runs mostly on ARM processors, and NVDA is not really
designed for phones at this time.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yeti
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA on Windows mobile

Hello list,

I'm thinking of buying a Windows phone.

Can NVDA work with the unlocked version of Windows?

Ad Astra

Yeti


NVDA on Windows mobile

Yeti
 

Hello list,

I'm thinking of buying a Windows phone.

Can NVDA work with the unlocked version of Windows?

Ad Astra

Yeti


Add-on Updater 21.03 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Add-on Updater 21.03 is now available. I expect this will be first of a series of add-on updates this week. In addition to requiring NVDA 2020.4, Add-on Updater 21.03 now presents an error message if it cannot check for add-on updates due to loss of Internet connection. As always, you can check for Add-on Updater updates through Add-on Updater itself.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Excel: Stop Saying "Formula Bar"

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 05:59 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
So, to disable the annoying "Formula Bar editing Equals”, the setting for Allowing editing in cells" needs to be enabled and it does not matter whether "Show formula bar" is enabled or disabled.
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Thanks very, very much for the full explanation of how you got to the "there" quoted above and for the succinct summation.
 
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Re: Excel: Stop Saying "Formula Bar"

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Pele,

I am happy to have helped. Are you still able to edit formulas and values character by character with the revised setting
?

Pranav


Re: Word problem

 

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 03:05 PM, Vinod Benjamin wrote:
Wow! i am Able to find the addon doing the issue. Need to write to the developer .
-
Wonderful.   Thank you very much for taking the time to read the tutorial and then following through with all the steps.

I'm not trying to insult add-on developers in any way, but it's generally been the case that add-ons break something rather than the NVDA core.  Part of that is the way the development cycles of the NVDA core and NVDA add-ons diverge.  Many NVDA Add-On developers do this entirely on their own time and as time is available and sometimes changes in NVDA core requires add-on changes, and sometimes not.

Debugging software and determining root causes is a slow process that requires attention to detail.

Again, thanks very much for actually carrying out the necessary process to isolate your issue to its source.
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Re: Braille Formatting

Quentin Christensen
 

Firstly, 

Here is the NVDA User Guide section on Baum, Humanware, APH and Orbit Braille Displays:


Re the idea of being able to compress onto one line in NVDA itself, I must admit, I haven't looked into it.  My best suggestion is to raise an issue on GitHub requesting it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new/choose

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 1:41 AM Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

Thanks all.  You’re correct, Quentin.  Cearbhall, unfortunately the Brailliant doesn’t actually have this setting.  Perhaps the Orbit has it because it has a built-in editor, but the Brailliant is just a display and has no editing functionality.  Is this setting for compressing space a feature that could be added to NVDA in the future?

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille Formatting

 

Gentlemen,

The setting for this is sometimes called “Compress blank spaces” as it is called in the Orbit Reader. I would expect the Braille display to manage this rather than NVDA. Does the Brailliant offer such a choice?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 10:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille Formatting

 

Not that I can think of.  There is a Braille setting to "Read by paragraph" but I think it uses the Word model of hard line break (eg when you've pressed enter while typing) = new paragraph.

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:41 PM Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

Thanks, Quentin.  I didn’t, but you are correct in that the panning works well for long sentences.  However, I’m assuming there isn’t a way to set the display to bring the next sentence up to fill the rest of the display where the previous sentence ended?

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille Formatting

 

Did you get an answer to this?  The only thing I can think of is could it simply be the document?  EG this first line of my reply is quite long and although visually it likely wraps to a second line, it is one "line" and should pan correctly on a Braille display.

This line is short.

This too.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:17 AM Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

While reading a document with my Brailliant BI 40, the text fills the entire display for the first several pans, but then I may see one or two words and a mostly blank line until I advance the display again.  I am seeing this in Google Docs, Word and even Notepad.  Which setting do I need to change within NVDA to ensure that each advance of the display fills the entire display with text?


Thanks,
Jonathan

 


 

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One Core

Andrea Sherry
 

Thanks for the assistance.

Andrea


Re: finding things with NVDA and Firefox

Louise Pfau
 

SHIFT+NVDA+F3 is the command for “Find Previous” to locate the prior occurrence of a word, in case you skipped past the information you wanted.
 
Louise


strange behaviour in booking.com's navigation

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

To explain the problem, I will give an example.

I did a reservation and now I am going to ask help about it.

I did the login and press the button that identifies the reservation.

In the new page opened, if I change to focus mode and press some tabs, I can find a checkbox, an editbox and some links.

But if I turn focus mode off and try to use the virtual cursor, I can't find the same objects that were identified with focus mode on.


Re: Word problem

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Brayan,

Wow! i am Able to find the addon doing the issue.
need to write to the developer .

its been a while, i have been facing this issue.
it was your elaborate explanation helped me in finding a resolution.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin

On 4/1/21, Vinod Benjamin <vinbenji.group@gmail.com> wrote:
dear Brian,

Thanks so very much ,
I will do the same and.
get back to you.

Regards.
Vinod Benjamin

On 3/31/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 02:18 PM, Vinod Benjamin wrote:


how to create a debug log.
-
Here's a pasted copy of the file I gave the link to.  I understand, since
it's a Word document, and that's where your reading problem currently
lies,
that you wouldn't be able to read it.

--------

*Collecting NVDA Debugging Information to Report to NVAccess.*

Whether you are someone who has a GitHub account for NVDA or not, when it
comes to reporting detailed information to the developers of NVDA when
it’s
needed you will be called upon to turn on debug level logging so that
they
can get a handle on exactly what’s happening.  You will often need to
include this (or at least a chunk of the log) along with a description of
what you have done (in exact steps, when possible) and what isn't working
as
it should.

Very often, issues are triggered by an Add-On rather than NVDA itself, so
the first thing you should try is restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled,
and
see if you can recreate your problem, or if it goes away.  If it goes
away,
then you know that an add-on is triggering it.  You then have to go
through
add-ons manager, first disabling all add-ons except one, and restarting
NVDA
as usual, until turning one of them on causes your problem to reappear.
Once you know which add-on is causing the issue, this needs to be
reported
to the developer of that add-on rather than the NVDA developers.

Your NVDA key is either INSERT (desktop keyboard layout) or CAPS LOCK
(laptop keyboard layout), depending on how you have NVDA set up.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, try recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.  If the
problem(s) still occur, even with all add-ons disabled, then you’ll want
to
proceed to changing the NVDA logging level so you have detailed
information
for reporting purposes.  If the problem(s) are gone, then go through the
steps to figure out what add-on is causing them, noted above.

To set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+Control+G to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+Control+C to save settings.

When you restart NVDA, *please do so with add-ons disabled* , which will
give the cleanest log, using the previously noted steps.

Once NVDA is running with add-ons disabled, recreate the issue - do
whatever
causes problems.  Once the problem(s) have occurred, there will be log
information that needs to be sent to the developers.

There are several ways to access the NVDA log  file afterwards:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log where you need to paste it.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to
restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letters T E M
P
and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary
folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log
file
for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.log (the log from
the
previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information
created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on whether you’re filing a GitHub issue or using an email
program to send information to info@nvaccess.org ( info@nvaccess.org ) ,
exactly what you do will be different in regard to attaching files.  That
being said, attach as many of those three files to an email to as would
contain useful information.  This is generally the nvda.log file where
debug
level logging was active and the nvda-crash.dmp file if NVDA crashed.  As
always, give a detailed description (including steps to reproduce) of has
happened as well as a description of what you expected to happen.

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