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Re: ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Apologies for CC mishap in an earlier post.

Important note on ObjPad add-on: version 21.04.1 is an emergency release – I (the add-on author) am no longer maintaining this add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:43 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Hello Rowen

Thanks your help! You're right.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Rowen Cary wrote:

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 01:11:17 -0700
From: Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@outlook.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu
In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Rowen Cary
 

In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Chris
 

It may be a good idea to install a stable version rather than using alphas, until the issue has been resolved

 

 

 

 

 

From: 高生旺
Sent: 13 April 2021 05:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

 

I've done every thing you said.

I'm sure it's missing a dll.

I need to know which it is.

 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Luke Davis wrote:

 

> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT)

> From: Luke Davis <luke@...>

> Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

>

>> I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.

>> I still cannot read context menu.

> Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and

> more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second

> time.

> --

> Luke

> "In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can

> be either one or the other.

> If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."

> - Joel Shepherd

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

I've done every thing you said.
I'm sure it's missing a dll.
I need to know which it is.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Luke Davis wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 23:26:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.
Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second time.

--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd





Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Luke Davis
 

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.
Did you run SFC and DISM as Brian explained? Because it is sounding more and more like a Windows problem. But still run the COM Reg Fix Tool a second time.

--
Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

 

I would suggest not using the alpha.  Try installing 2020.4 and see if the issue persists.  Report back on if it does/does not.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Gene
 

Did you run the registration tool again, as was suggested? If that doesn't work, do you have system restore points? Runnning a restore point from before you uninstalled Office will likely correct whatever problem the uninstallation caused. Then, regardless of wheteher Office programs work or not, leave them installed.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: 高生旺
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:47:10 -0700
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 09:35 PM, =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?= wrote:
Do you know which one?

-
No. But you show no indication of having uninstalled/reinstalled NVDA. Have you?

You are not going to get additional help from me until and unless you start reporting on each and every step you've taken, and stopping after each to report the result.

This grasping at straws, which is what you're doing, and zig-zagging is not helpful, to anyone, least of all you.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon






Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

I've remove nvda and re-install the newest alpha-22295,49a85788.
I still cannot read context menu.

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:47:10 -0700
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 09:35 PM, =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?= wrote:
Do you know which one?
-
No.  But you show no indication of having uninstalled/reinstalled NVDA.  Have you?
You are not going to get additional help from me until and unless you start reporting on each and every step you've taken, and stopping after each to report the result. 
This grasping at straws, which is what you're doing, and zig-zagging is not helpful, to anyone, least of all you.
 
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  
Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.
       ~ Richard M. Nixon
 


Re: Layers and NVDA

Desert Moon
 

Hello All,

I use ZoomText 2020 at work. ZT offers a bunch of layered hotkeys. Here is the definition:

Tip: A layered keystroke reduces the number of keys that you need to hold down at once to perform an action. To type a layered keystroke, press and release CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR, followed by the appropriate keystroke to perform the action.
https://www.freedomscientific.com/training/zoomtext/zoomtext-hotkeys/





--
Desert


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 09:35 PM, =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?= wrote:
Do you know which one?
-
No.  But you show no indication of having uninstalled/reinstalled NVDA.  Have you?

You are not going to get additional help from me until and unless you start reporting on each and every step you've taken, and stopping after each to report the result. 

This grasping at straws, which is what you're doing, and zig-zagging is not helpful, to anyone, least of all you.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Again, no effect with all you said.
The log message had said it is missing some dll.
Do you know which one?

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Brian Vogel wrote:

Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 08:25:19 -0700
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 06:59 AM, =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?= wrote:
While checking log I got the messages:
-
You know, several people now, including myself, have asked you to try several things, including starting with add-ons disabled, and reporting back.
Diagnosing issues is not a scattershot process, but a methodical one.
Have you done, IN ORDER, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues?
What is the result after trying each, IN ORDER?  And for restarting the computer definitely use Restart, not Shutdown, because if Fast Startup is enabled a shutdown is not really a complete shutdown.
If those don't work, then an uninstall and reinstall of NVDA would be what I'd try next.
 
--
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  
Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.
       ~ Richard M. Nixon
 


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, makes sense. It doned on me then. Lol!

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On 12 Apr 2021, at 16:06, Luke Davis wrote:

The gesture is only there, if the add-on is there to create it. When you have the add-on disabled, it isn't there to create the gesture.

Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I deleted the one I wanted, added the one  I wanted and it should work. A note to self though, if you disable the add on, the input gesture for that
add on will not show up. It took me about 15 minutes to figure that one out.


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Luke Davis
 

The gesture is only there, if the add-on is there to create it. When you have the add-on disabled, it isn't there to create the gesture.

Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Yep. I deleted the one I wanted, added the one  I wanted and it should work. A note to self though, if you disable the add on, the input gesture for that
add on will not show up. It took me about 15 minutes to figure that one out.


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep. I deleted the one I wanted, added the one  I wanted and it should work. A note to self though, if you disable the add on, the input gesture for that add on will not show up. It took me about 15 minutes to figure that one out.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Oh, the nvda modifier has to be included when reassigning the gestures?

-
No.  That's just what Mr. Spivey chose.

I just went in and added CTRL+F9 and then promptly deleted it.  It's the first time I've ever tweaked an input gesture (keyboard shortcut to the rest of the world) within NVDA itself.  I had not realized you can't edit the existing one.  You must add a new one, then the original and the new one will both work if you keep both, but after you add the new one you remove the existing one if you don't want it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Oh, the nvda modifier has to be included when reassigning the gestures?
-
No.  That's just what Mr. Spivey chose.

I just went in and added CTRL+F9 and then promptly deleted it.  It's the first time I've ever tweaked an input gesture (keyboard shortcut to the rest of the world) within NVDA itself.  I had not realized you can't edit the existing one.  You must add a new one, then the original and the new one will both work if you keep both, but after you add the new one you remove the existing one if you don't want it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, the nvda modifier has to be included when reassigning the gestures? I have not had a need to go in there, until today. I'll play with it maybe after work or so as that is coming up in a few hours and I kind of need to be ready.

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On 12 Apr 2021, at 11:00, Tyler Spivey wrote:

You can go into the Input Gestures dialog and reassign any key you want.
Simply go in and redefine the speech history keys to use the NVDA modifier and some other keys.

On 4/12/2021 10:56 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I don’t see how not having this feature makes sense, but ok? I’ll write up the report on my phone later today and see where it goes.

Happy Monday all.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *g melconian
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 10:30 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Ok, this makes sense.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 10:28 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

I can’t do that because of the game I play, and the stuff I use. Is there a feature request on github about this. Right now I’m a bit lazy. I can look later when I get on my phone. Besides are not alt shift arrows used to read  stuff in windows if I recall? When I do that I hear “move below and move above” I’ll look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config profile.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Andre Fisher
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 8:50 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Hi.

This is currently not possible, and it's not a bug. Your best solution is to reassign the gestures for the add-on until such functionality is possible. I don't even know why the add-on author didn't use shortcuts with the NVDA modifier key as opposed to Shift+F11, Shift+F12 and F12. Doing it this way will ensure that the shortcuts won't conflict with those used by application.

I assigned mine to Alt+NVDA+Up and Down Arrow for the  speech history, and NVDA+Alt+Period to copy the last spoken phrase.


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Tyler Spivey
 

You can go into the Input Gestures dialog and reassign any key you want.
Simply go in and redefine the speech history keys to use the NVDA modifier and some other keys.

On 4/12/2021 10:56 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don’t see how not having this feature makes sense, but ok? I’ll write up the report on my phone later today and see where it goes.
Happy Monday all.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *g melconian
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 10:30 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?
Ok, this makes sense.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 10:28 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?
I can’t do that because of the game I play, and the stuff I use. Is there a feature request on github about this. Right now I’m a bit lazy. I can look later when I get on my phone. Besides are not alt shift arrows used to read  stuff in windows if I recall? When I do that I hear “move below and move above” I’ll look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config profile.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Andre Fisher
*Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2021 8:50 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?
Hi.
This is currently not possible, and it's not a bug. Your best solution is to reassign the gestures for the add-on until such functionality is possible. I don't even know why the add-on author didn't use shortcuts with the NVDA modifier key as opposed to Shift+F11, Shift+F12 and F12. Doing it this way will ensure that the shortcuts won't conflict with those used by application.
I assigned mine to Alt+NVDA+Up and Down Arrow for the  speech history, and NVDA+Alt+Period to copy the last spoken phrase.


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don’t see how not having this feature makes sense, but ok? I’ll write up the report on my phone later today and see where it goes.

 

Happy Monday all.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

Ok, this makes sense. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 10:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

I can’t do that because of the game I play, and the stuff I use. Is there a feature request on github about this. Right now I’m a bit lazy. I can look later when I get on my phone. Besides are not alt shift arrows used to read  stuff in windows if I recall? When I do that I hear “move below and move above” I’ll look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config profile.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 8:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

Hi.

This is currently not possible, and it's not a bug. Your best solution is to reassign the gestures for the add-on until such functionality is possible. I don't even know why the add-on author didn't use shortcuts with the NVDA modifier key as opposed to Shift+F11, Shift+F12 and F12. Doing it this way will ensure that the shortcuts won't conflict with those used by application.

I assigned mine to Alt+NVDA+Up and Down Arrow for the  speech history, and NVDA+Alt+Period to copy the last spoken phrase.

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