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Re: Error in Firefox

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I have not had to do this for a while as when you have troubles with the browser and this sounds like the same I had a few years back but resetting the browser fixed the problem in those cases. This was both in fire fox and recently in google browser it would speak stuff only if I tabbed but no browse mode etc and in the case of fire fox you could not interact with the browser apart from the menus.


the following page if you do go down this track can be fund at https://malwaretips.com/blogs/reset-firefox-settings/

try some of the other steps from other people and also try another copy of nvda if you have it on a portable to see if the same problem happens and if it does I am guessing the browser is the problem but if it works well with the portable on fire fox then have to look closer at nvda.


As suggested also use the comm tool in nvda and see if that fixes the problem. it is all ways after doing that shut down the pc completely not sleep mode then start up the pc.


if it was saying that in all the browsers and also down on the running application area there might be another way but it sounds like it is not this other problem.


Gene nz

 

On 14/04/2021 12:36 pm, Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews


Re: Error in Firefox

Gene
 

At first, I though the problem was that the setting to not work with accessibility had been turned on. But my recollection is that if that is done, you won't even see the menus.

If you have sighted help available, they can check the setting to be sure and allow accessibility if it isn't now. But I doubt that is the problem.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Casey Mathews
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Error in Firefox



Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.



displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))





Casey Mathews


Re: Error in Firefox

Luke Davis
 

Solution number one when things are reading as "unknown", is to try running the COM Registration Fixing Tool in the NVDA Tools menu.
NVDA+n, t, r, enter, enter, deal with the UAC, enter.

If that doesn't work, reboot your machine, and run it again.

Luke

Casey Mathews wrote:

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.
At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.
This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.


Error in Firefox

 

Whenever I open Firefox I hear NVDA say Unknown.

At this point I’m unable to tab or do anything in the browser other than get into menus.

This only happens in Firefox. Chrome and Edge work fine.

I’m running NVDA 2020.4 and Windows 10 21H1 (64-bit) build 19043.899

An NVDA error log is below, but not sure what to make of it as I’m not a developer.

 

displayText: exception: cannot unpack non-iterable NoneType object

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x73947c8 at a584cb0>

IAccessibleChildID: -16777238

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=919304, objectID=-4, childID=-16777238

IAccessible accName: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accRole: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accState: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: exception: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

 

 

Casey Mathews


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Sarah k Alawami
 

That's fine. I don't really mind. Take your time in doing what ever it is you need to do to fix the sapi4 issues, as crashing voices is higher priority in my mind.

Take care all.

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On 13 Apr 2021, at 16:06, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
It is possible to let add-ons detect profile switches and "disable"
themselves if a different app is in use (it requires add-ons to listen to
config profile switched action and respond by removing/assigning gestures on
the fly; it may not work for custom gestures). In reality, you are not
making add-ons disable themselves completely - you are effectively going to
let add-ons tell NVDA that they don't want to respond to hotkeys as long as
you are focused in a specific window. Python doesn't have a facility to
arbitrarily unload modules once imported.
Right now NV Access and several testers are trying to resolve a really
critical issue for SAPI4 synthesizer users. Specifically, NVDA crashes if
trying to use SAPI4 synthesizers. Hopefully it can be resolved before 2021.1
beta is released, but if not, one of the following could happen:
* NVDA may need to use older and thus quite insecure version of Python
(Python 3.7 has entered security fixes mode, so only source code releases
will be made), and this is based on a dump analysis from Mick Curran from NV
Access who noted that this issue is specific to Python 3.8 and later.
* It appears the issue might be something to do with a library Python uses,
and if yes, we need to talk to Python core developers so they can resolve it
by the time Python 3.10 comes out later this year.
* We may need to say goodbye to built-in support for SAPI4 speech
synthesizers.
I have several NVDA pull requests lined up and/or are undergoing planning
phase, but due to SAPI4 issue and a host of other problems, I have informed
NV Access that I'll target most of my pull requests for 2021.2 or later. Put
it simply, I won't expect Sarah's suggestion to be worked on anytime soon.
Sorry.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config

profile.

For the record (Joseph could speak much better about this), that seems very
unlikely to happen, and certainly not any time soon.
Some major portions of NVDA would have to be rewritten to facilitate it, and
there just isn't that kind of demand. Or, perhaps more accurately, there are
lots of things that are in much higher demand.

Now, I could see profile based gesture maps coming much sooner, which may
solve the kind of problem you are trying to address. Although I don't know
of any work currently being done in that area.

If you want that, comment about it here please:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8123

Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You
can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Luke Davis
 

Joseph Lee wrote:

It is possible to let add-ons detect profile switches and "disable"
themselves if a different app is in use (it requires add-ons to listen to
config profile switched action and respond by removing/assigning gestures on
the fly; it may not work for custom gestures).
That would require each add-on to implement some kind of solution to this. Very fragmentary at best.

After thinking more about this, a possible solution has occurred to me.

Someone could write a "Disable Add-ons in Config Profiles" add-on (perhaps with a better name).

That add-on could listen for profile changes as Joseph described, and if the profile matches something pre-configured, have it look up all of another add-on's gestures, snapshot them, and disable them.

That could be done with manager.userGestureMap.getScriptsForAllGestures (as I do in the Numpad Nav Mode add-on).
Which I think would work fine for custom gestures, unless I'm forgetting something.

Then, on reversion to default or any other profile, reverse the process.

Provide a settings panel which lists available profiles, and gives a selection of add-ons which can be enabled or disabled in it.
(Really, just enabling/disabling their keyboard shortcuts).

I doubt I'd want to see that in core though. It seems as if it might be fragile; but as an add-on I could see it working.

Luke


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

 

Hi,
It is possible to let add-ons detect profile switches and "disable"
themselves if a different app is in use (it requires add-ons to listen to
config profile switched action and respond by removing/assigning gestures on
the fly; it may not work for custom gestures). In reality, you are not
making add-ons disable themselves completely - you are effectively going to
let add-ons tell NVDA that they don't want to respond to hotkeys as long as
you are focused in a specific window. Python doesn't have a facility to
arbitrarily unload modules once imported.
Right now NV Access and several testers are trying to resolve a really
critical issue for SAPI4 synthesizer users. Specifically, NVDA crashes if
trying to use SAPI4 synthesizers. Hopefully it can be resolved before 2021.1
beta is released, but if not, one of the following could happen:
* NVDA may need to use older and thus quite insecure version of Python
(Python 3.7 has entered security fixes mode, so only source code releases
will be made), and this is based on a dump analysis from Mick Curran from NV
Access who noted that this issue is specific to Python 3.8 and later.
* It appears the issue might be something to do with a library Python uses,
and if yes, we need to talk to Python core developers so they can resolve it
by the time Python 3.10 comes out later this year.
* We may need to say goodbye to built-in support for SAPI4 speech
synthesizers.
I have several NVDA pull requests lined up and/or are undergoing planning
phase, but due to SAPI4 issue and a host of other problems, I have informed
NV Access that I'll target most of my pull requests for 2021.2 or later. Put
it simply, I won't expect Sarah's suggestion to be worked on anytime soon.
Sorry.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config
profile.

For the record (Joseph could speak much better about this), that seems very
unlikely to happen, and certainly not any time soon.
Some major portions of NVDA would have to be rewritten to facilitate it, and
there just isn't that kind of demand. Or, perhaps more accurately, there are
lots of things that are in much higher demand.

Now, I could see profile based gesture maps coming much sooner, which may
solve the kind of problem you are trying to address. Although I don't know
of any work currently being done in that area.

If you want that, comment about it here please:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8123

Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You
can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


Re: unable to disable add ons for a given config profile?

Luke Davis
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

look at maybe reassigning those until you can disable addons in a config profile.
For the record (Joseph could speak much better about this), that seems very unlikely to happen, and certainly not any time soon.
Some major portions of NVDA would have to be rewritten to facilitate it, and there just isn't that kind of demand. Or, perhaps more accurately, there are lots of things that are in much higher demand.

Now, I could see profile based gesture maps coming much sooner, which may solve the kind of problem you are trying to address. Although I don't know of any work currently being done in that area.

If you want that, comment about it here please: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8123

Luke

"In this life there are obstacles, and forces who overcome obstacles. You can be either one or the other.
If you refuse to even try to clear an obstacle, you become the obstacle."
- Joel Shepherd


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Chris Smart
 

There is another version of Eloquence that we're not supposed to talk about... 😉😯


On 2021-04-13 4:56 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:

Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Gerardo Corripio
 

And it's a very fair price for the bundle! It's about $70 or so. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 13 abr 2021, a la(s) 3:56 p.m., Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> escribió:



Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

 

Easiest way is to go to atguys.com and buy either the sapi or addons for eloquence and vocaliser.

I would personally buy the sapi  and then forget about it but yeah thats basically it.

Install the launchers, activate them, then download your voices and go nuts.



On 14/04/2021 6:17 am, Maria Reyes wrote:

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


locked Re: New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Gerardo Corripio
 

AT Guys offers a combo Eloquence/Vocalizer, which is where I got mine. It works great!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Maria Reyes
Enviado: martes, 13 de abril de 2021 03:27 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

 

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?

 


locked New NVDA user who's looking for Eloquence

Maria Reyes
 

Hi I got a new computer and just installed NVDA! How do I get Eloquence?


Re: Blackboard and NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

It's been a while since I've used Blackboard, but when I did I had
very few problems with it.

On 4/13/21, Maria Reyes <sassyblindgirl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I am starting school this fall and was wondering how accessible
Blackboard is with NVDA?







Blackboard and NVDA

Maria Reyes
 

Hi, I am starting school this fall and was wondering how accessible Blackboard is with NVDA?


Reminder to Members about using most recent versions where possible #adminnotice

 

Hello All,

This is a reminder about the group rule about NVDA software, in particular, but others in general:  Upgrade to the latest version of NVDA before posting questions.  For all other software, please do the same when possible, but where not be sure you are using a version currently in support.

At the moment there are pending messages asking about version 2019.3, which needs to be updated to 2020.4 to see if that fixes the issue, first.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Apologies for CC mishap in an earlier post.

Important note on ObjPad add-on: version 21.04.1 is an emergency release – I (the add-on author) am no longer maintaining this add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 4:43 AM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


ObjPad 21.04.1 and Resouce Monitor 21.04/21.04.1 released #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

ObjPad and Resource Monitor add-on updates are now available. These updates prepares the add-on to support newer NVDA releases. For folks using Resource Monitor, depending on update channel, you’ll get 21.04 (dev) or 21.04.1 (stable) – don’t worry, as these versions are identical.

 

Key highlights:

  • ObjPad 21.04.1: requires NVDA 2020.1 or later. Support for this add-on has ended officially in 2019 but an emergency release was made to support newer NVDA releases.
  • Resource Monitor 21.04/21.04.1: requires NvDA 2020.4 or later. This version changes the way NVDA announces resource summary when you copy it to clipboard by pressing resource commands twice (for example, NVDA will announce “copied” followed by average CPU usage information when you press NVDA+Shift+number row 1 twice).

 

As always, these updates can be fetched via Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

=?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B9b=4082=22=1B=28J?=
 

Hello Rowen

Thanks your help! You're right.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021, Rowen Cary wrote:

Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 01:11:17 -0700
From: Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@outlook.com>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't read context menu
In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243


Re: NVDA doesn't read context menu

Rowen Cary
 

In fact, this problem plagues many NVDA users, not only uninstalling Office, even if you uninstall Mathplayer, it will also cause this to happen.
I think the Com registration repair tool is not reliable. This requires improvement by NVAccess. The following may help you:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

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