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Re: Chess programs
That was Anthony Borg, two days ago, and he asked about Lichess:
You are correct that discussions of how to play with Lichess do belong on the Chat Subgroup. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. ~ Richard M. Nixon
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Re: suddenly object review quit working like it should
what does NVDA+6 do for you?
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suddenly object review quit working like it should
I can’t really describe this, but my pc curser used to follow the object review curser and I could just from anywhere check my objects in any window I was in by default. This quit working about a few days after I installed About NVDA Nonvisual Desktop Access (NVDA) Version: 2020.4. I tried running the com reg tool twice. That worked but then it would not. I tried restarting nvda, that didn’t work. I mean the restart worked, but the object curser would not move. I would hear “no next object” and “no containing object even in object review. I can’t really restart with add ons disabled as I can’t tab tot eh ok button. It’s also liked my keys are stuck or something. I’ve been having that issue for ever now.
I’m running Windows 10 20H2 (64-bit) build 19042.928
The restart of nvda takes care of the not able to press tab but it add ons disabled does not take care of the no containing object. I’m on outlook typing this right now and I try to just for grins navigate with object view and I cannot. I need to try and go up, find the outlook window, navigate by object into it and, it’s a mess. Sometimes that does not even work. I tried changing my display to something smaller and that worked for a bit, but now even that is failing.
I thought that this was browser only but now this object thing is happening in every app. Anything else I should try and do before I pull my hair out? Half of the stuff I use I rely on screen and object view, and I can’t even get screen review to work. The cursers no longer follow each other. Is there a setting I unchecked in NVDA somewhere that I forgot about as well?
Take care all.
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Chess programs
Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone, I know there was at least one conversation recently around Chess programs. Someone wrote to me today about one which seems to be accessible: https://lichess.org/ They wrote because they were having an issue with it in Firefox, however they advised it works well in Chrome. From a quick look, it seems you can play against another player, or against the computer. And that's all I know about it, but for anyone interested, do feel free to check it out and let us know how you find it (maybe continue the conversation in the chat group?) Kind regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Luke Davis
Chris Mullins wrote:
What happens if a new minute starts between when you fetch minutes then seconds? All elements of the time should be captured at the same point. ThereObviously, it depends on what the user in this case is doing with it. If seconds are most important, it may even be better to put them on their own shortcut key. It all depends on what this particular user needs. You may need consistency of time. He may need accurate seconds and not care about minutes. Anyway, this horse is very very dead. Luke
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Chris Mullins
Hi What happens if a new minute starts between when you fetch minutes then seconds? All elements of the time should be captured at the same point. There will always be a lag between when you grab the time and hear the announcement of it but at least the time will be consistent.
Cheers Chris Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Luke Davis
Sent: 21 April 2021 07:20 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Rowen Cary wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who participated in the reply. I actually want to know what considerations are in the development level. My friends and I need such a > function.
If you do make something that announces time to the second, make sure that the seconds announcement is generated just before speaking.
In sudocode, I mean:
fetch hours, minutes speak hours speak colon speak minutes speak colon fetch seconds speak seconds
Luke
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Luke Davis
Rowen Cary wrote:
Thanks to everyone who participated in the reply. I actually want to know what considerations are in the development level. My friends and I need such aIf you do make something that announces time to the second, make sure that the seconds announcement is generated just before speaking. In sudocode, I mean: fetch hours, minutes speak hours speak colon speak minutes speak colon fetch seconds speak seconds Luke
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Rowen Cary
Thanks to everyone who participated in the reply. I actually want to know what considerations are in the development level. My friends and I need such a function. I also developed an add-on with a similar function.
Thanks.
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Alinement announcement, spelling error and shortcut for layout announcement.
farhan israk
I am using Microsoft powerpoint 2016 and latest nvda. Nbda does not announce left aline or right eline after pressing nvda + f. I don't get sound during typing misspelled word. If you add shortcut for layout announcement, it would be helpful for us.
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Re: PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view
Eilana Benish
I also use JAWS as secondary screen reader but JAWS does not read headings on my presentation. and I have title place Holder shape in each slide. Also it seems that JAWS reads bulleted text as graphics Both NVDA and JAWS should recognize when the object is a shape with text in that shape, and when it is a picture… And sometimes when I am moving with down arrow between slides in edit mode JAWS announces with each slide the slide number and then the words know selection. Come to think of it there are more issues regarding PowerPoint and I hope that JAWS and NVDA will improve the user experience in Microsoft PowerPoint. בתאריך יום ג׳, 20 באפר׳ 2021 ב-23:02 מאת <benmoxey@...>:
-- ובכבוד רב, אילנה בניש מורשה נגישות שירות 2200 ייעוץ, ליווי והערכת נגישות ושמישות אינטרנט וטכנולוגיות מידע טלפון ישיר 📱 +972-50-7100367 | דוא"ל 📧 benish.ilana@...
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Re: PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view
benmoxey@...
Hi Sandra
I’m pretty sure this is a current limitation. Happy to be corrected. *smile*
Cheers
Ben
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Pilz
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 2:25 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view
Hi,
I use Office 365. When I open a presentation and activate presentation mode pressing F5, NVDA will not recognise tables, headings and so on where JAWS does. It would be helpful if I could read tables with NVDA in Presentation Mode, is this possible at all?
Regards
Sandra
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Re: PDF: Alternate Text and Description of tables
benmoxey@...
Hi Sandra
I got in touch with a sighted friend who specialises in accessible PDFs. Interestingly, the table alt text is exporting from Word (she can see it in the PDF document), but none of the screen readers are picking it up. It does appear to be a current limitation.
If you end up calling Microsoft, would be interested to hear what they say. 😊
Cheers
Ben
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Pilz
Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2021 6:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF: Alternate Text and Description of tables
Hi Ben,
Thank you for checking this again. Until you said it worked for you, I also thought that the table alt text and the description might not be included in the PDF export. Now I know I can stop looking for what might be wrong on my side. :)
Still, it would be interesting to know if it is that he tags are not included in the PDF or if NVDA just doesn't support this in pdf...
Also thank you for your suggestions for a workaround.
By the way, I'm also dealing with PowerPoint documents where alt text for tables also either is not exported to PDF or doesn't work with NVDA. Maybe, just out of curiosity, I'll contact Microsoft about it just to see if they aware of this.
Thanks again.
Regards
Sandra
Am 18.04.2021 um 06:44 schrieb benmoxey@...:
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Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
bering.p
Hi,
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There is also the "NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin" add-on which has an option for this: v9.7 Best regards. Paul. Le 20/04/2021 16:45, Brian Vogel a
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I believe there is an add on for this feature--for what it's worth.- And I believe you're referring to Clock and Calendar Add-On for NVDA. There's also Time Zoner for those who need to deal with multiple time zones frequently. I hadn't looked at the NVDA Stable Add-Ons page as this is not a need I have, but it's always worth doing so to see if someone else did and created an add-on to fulfill that need. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. ~ Richard M. Nixon
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Ron Canazzi
Hi Brian and List,
I believe there is an add on for this feature--for what it's worth. On 4/20/2021 9:27 AM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Seconds are a moving target a number of which are consumed by the announcement of the hours and minutes, and that number will vary depending on the exact hour and minute combination being announced. So they'd always be inaccurate by the time they are announced. Though the same can be said for both hours and minutes depending on the exact moment time is fetched, having either one of those change as the verbalization is made is far less frequent. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Seconds are a moving target a number of which are consumed by the announcement of the hours and minutes, and that number will vary depending on the exact hour and minute combination being announced. So they'd always be inaccurate by the time they are announced. Though the same can be said for both hours and minutes depending on the exact moment time is fetched, having either one of those change as the verbalization is made is far less frequent.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. ~ Richard M. Nixon
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Re: Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Gene
I can't speak for the developers but I haven't seen any screen-reader that does that nor any talking clock. I believe there may be an NVDA add-on that allows the user to do this but I think most users would be really annoyed if that were the default behavior. I certainly wouldn't want to hear seconds announced as a general rule when I check the time.
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I just checked and there is an add-on that will let you do all sorts of things with features regarding time. https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clock.en.html Whenever you want to add functionality or be able to change something with more options, check to see if there is an add-on. Who knows what someone wanted and developed. Gene
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From: Rowen Cary Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second Hi friends, As the title says, when you press NVDA + F12, only hours and minutes are reported, and seconds are not included. By reading the source code of NVDA, I found that there may be a reason: text=winKernel.GetTimeFormatEx(winKernel.LOCALE_NAME_USER_DEFAULT, winKernel.TIME_NOSECONDS, None, None) Set the second parameter of this function to None to make NVDA's time report include seconds. This is very Easy, I want to know why NVAccess did not do this? Is there something I overlooked? Thanks every friend
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Why is the NVDA report time not accurate to the second
Rowen Cary
Hi friends,
As the title says, when you press NVDA + F12, only hours and minutes are reported, and seconds are not included.
By reading the source code of NVDA, I found that there may be a reason:
text=winKernel.GetTimeFormatEx(winKernel.LOCALE_NAME_USER_DEFAULT, winKernel.TIME_NOSECONDS, None, None)
Set the second parameter of this function to None to make NVDA's time report include seconds.
This is very Easy, I want to know why NVAccess did not do this? Is there something I overlooked?
Thanks every friend
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nvda snapshot alpha - 22409
Wagner Soares Da Silva
Hello, special thanks to the entire NVDA team for fixing the bug with Windows 8 from this Alpha version of NVDA.
Since the migration to Python 3.8, the Alphas versions of NVDA have started to present serious problems in Windows 8. Fortunately, starting with version 22409, apparently, the problem has been solved. Thanks to the developers of the best screen reader for Windows. Grande Abraço, Wagner. Telegram: https://t.me/wagnersilvass Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/wagner.soaresdasilva.167 ICQ New: https://icq.com/invite/wagnersilvass Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wagner.silvass/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/wagnersilvass Crie Uma Conta Gratuita No Dropbox E Ganhe 500 MB De Espaços Como Bônus. Basta Clicar No Link Abaixo: https://db.tt/BxliG5KI
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Re: On posting e-mail addresses in messages - Please don't
#adminnotice
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, Gene wrote:
I hope the discussion helps others with problems that might be resolved in this way.- As do I, and it's not limited to Windows, or Office, or NVDA, or any particular single thing or cluster of things. Turning something off and on again, uninstalling/removing and then promptly reinstalling, or similar is one of the fundamental troubleshooting and diagnostic steps for anything. We've seen plenty of instances over the years where toggling an NVDA setting that's misbehaving magically makes it behave again, even though what you're setting it to in the end is what it was set to in the beginning. The one thing I'll add is that it's never a bad idea to toggle the setting, exit whatever it is you toggled it for, restart, then toggle it back. That's not absolutely essential, but there are occasions where the straight toggle doesn't work, but where toggle-exit-restart-toggle does. And, no, don't anyone dare ask me why, as no technician in the world has the answer to that mystery! -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. ~ Richard M. Nixon
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