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Hi, Where do you get classic shell? I’m asking this shell I end up getting windows ten.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo Vorster
Sent: August-21-16 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hi

 

There is method in the madness of teaching Windows+M and Windows+d.

 

Windows+D maximize the desktop while Windows+M minimize it.

 

I have found that installing Classic Shell is a great help. This make Win10 look like win7.

 

By the way, Classic Shell is free.

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

I think I figured it out.

The top row is folders and under that is a grid of everything in those folders. The problem is that grid is really strangely shaped and if you press an arrow key you may jump to another folder. Nice thing is it will announce the new folder, but that is also what makes it so confusing.

 

*Note* windows + d also takes you to the desktop like windows + m does, you only need to use one hand though. I've never understood why they teach windows + m when windows + d is easier to do and remember.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

 

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:

Haha, a fun one! First, and apologies to those who may disagree, but it seems to me that currently, the Start menu on 10 with NVDA is slightly less than pleasant to use. :)
I've changed mine up now, I got tired of how crappy it was working for me so I took all the stuff out of the pinned apps area so it no longer shows up, but this is what I was able to figure out.

When you first press the start button and it lands you in the search box, you can press tab, either once or twice and it should take you to a vertical list containing a fairly large number of apps and some of their associated folders. As you arrow up and down here, NVDA will first read the section you come to, so A, B, etc and then under those, read you apps that fall under those sections. As you probably already know, it's here that you can press the applications key and pin said apps to the start menu.

As for the area where Apps actually get pinned, it looks like shift tab is what you want, so doing it from the search box should land you there. It's here that you should be able to use the arrow keys to move up, down, left and right in the grid, but unfortunately, NVDA seems to read things here all weird. As something that looks similar to how IOS likes to create named directories based on the names of the stuff you put in them, as you're moving around here, you'll come to these named sections and can press enter to rename them. As you're moving around here, you'll land on these sections, lets say, Audio and Music just as an example and can sometimes press down or wright and it will start reading you the pinned apps under that section. If you happen to only have one or two things here though, It's sometimes hard to get it to land where you want on the icon or whatever.

I've wondered if it's possible to turn off the structuring of the apps you pin here and just have them in a huge grid, but if so, I've not figured it out.
I'm also not sure if this is something that NVDA just hasn't caught up with and if there are things in the pipe down the road that will make it more friendly, but so far, it is kind of a pain to use. haha

If you play with it though and figure out anything else, I'd certainly be interested.
Take care.

On 8/20/2016 10:17 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

The reason why one uses the start menu is so you don't need to open apps to do things like your calendar, whether, news and stocks. you just arrow over those items and you hear what they are.

Thanks,

 

Brandon Keith Biggs

 

On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:

Hello Brandon,

 

I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop.  This is a two-step process.  Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu.  Hit the desktop option.  Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it.  Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select  application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

 

 

 

Unfortunately that's Apple. Now they are starting to do it with their

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On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account

It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they cannot

I feel better now!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its annoying as

On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of nvda.

When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've wrote,

Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and you

I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda goes

Unfortunately that's Apple. Now they are starting to do it with their hardware too. :-(

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On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing that only runs with their software.
I feel better now!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus iTunes isn't what it used to be.

On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of nvda.

When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've wrote, nvda doesn't speak.

Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and you need to restart it again.

I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda goes away there's no speech.

I tried to get that as late as yesterday and it was giving me issues with installing from the web site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webvisum

hi.
the last version of webvisum is now 0.95 and it signed and its valid between all adons of firefox!
you can use it without any worried!
i use it in firefox version 39 without any problem.
God bless you and thanks for asking.

On 9/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

WebVisum is working just fine here and I'm running the latest version 
of Firefox--48.02.  Hope this helps. If you're running something odd 
like betas or nightly try builds, maybe it won't work but if you use 
the current stable version, all should be good to go.

Roger








On 9/9/2016 5:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:

Does it still work, and if so, what version of Firefox does it work 
with? I doesn't appear to work with the NIghtly versions.


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I tried to get that as late as yesterday and it was giving me issues with installing from the web site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webvisum

hi.
the last version of webvisum is now 0.95 and it signed and its valid between all adons of firefox!
you can use it without any worried!
i use it in firefox version 39 without any problem.
God bless you and thanks for asking.

On 9/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@gmail.com> wrote:

WebVisum is working just fine here and I'm running the latest version
of Firefox--48.02. Hope this helps. If you're running something odd
like betas or nightly try builds, maybe it won't work but if you use
the current stable version, all should be good to go.

Roger








On 9/9/2016 5:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:

Does it still work, and if so, what version of Firefox does it work
with? I doesn't appear to work with the NIghtly versions.


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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org

I am having difficultyu dealing with a health site here in Wisconsin. It
is very confusing and there is a lot of repetition. My sighted assistant
says most of the information is conveyed in pictures. I want to push
them to make their site more accessible.

Thanks,

Ciao Ollie and helloall!

The technical problem is the change in pronunciation of some words, modified
by the presence, before or after, of other words...
At least in portuguese is a serious problem...

We will surely release the new version...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mallard
Data: 10 de setembro de 2016 13:32
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

Rui dear,

You have all my solidarity and understanding...

Hang in there!

Ciao, stai bene,

Ollie





Il 09/09/2016 21:00, Rui Fontes ha scritto:

We can not gave any date since we are waiting a technical answer from
Nuance, and we do not want to release the new version without solving the
problem...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Life My Way via Groups.io
Data: 9 de setembro de 2016 16:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

when will the new driver for vocalizer 4.0 be out?

We can not gave any date since we are waiting a technical answer from
Nuance, and we do not want to release the new version without solving the
problem...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Life My Way via Groups.io
Data: 9 de setembro de 2016 16:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

when will the new driver for vocalizer 4.0 be out?

Hi,
no, the Dropbox client version that still runs with Win XP is blocked from the Dropbox side. So it didn't help to try to prevent the client from updating.
The Dropbox client for XP no longer have access to the server and no longer can't connect into the server.

You still can upload files with CarotDAV on XP to your Dropbox account. But until now CarotDAV can't create a public link to the uploaded files.

Yours sincerely

Arno

We can not gave any date since we are waiting a technical answer from
Nuance, and we do not want to release the new version without solving the
problem...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Life My Way via Groups.io
Data: 9 de setembro de 2016 16:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

when will the new driver for vocalizer 4.0 be out?

He actually said June. I believe that there is no update coming, and will be surprised if we do get one. There are new voices that we do not have, and errors with certain content not being read out, and numerous other bugs that have existed ever since this last version. Promises have been made, and yet there is still no update... yet it is still being sold. you won't get an answer about the technical fix because there it is proprietary or something... they can't even release a beta... makes me think that there is no update coming. Who knows though. It would be nice if I was wrong.

Thanks.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:07 PM Life My Way via Groups.io <lifemyway=yahoo.com@groups.io <mailto:yahoo.com@groups.io>> wrote:

then how come you said that they would be out in july? what technol
issue is happening just wondering.


On 9/9/2016 2:00 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
> We can not gave any date since we are waiting a technical answer
from
> Nuance, and we do not want to release the new version without
solving the
> problem...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Life My Way via Groups.io
> Data: 9 de setembro de 2016 16:20
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0
>
> when will the new driver for vocalizer 4.0 be out?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

WebVisum is working just fine here and I'm running the latest version
of Firefox--48.02. Hope this helps. If you're running something odd
like betas or nightly try builds, maybe it won't work but if you use
the current stable version, all should be good to go.

Roger








On 9/9/2016 5:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:

Does it still work, and if so, what version of Firefox does it work
with? I doesn't appear to work with the NIghtly versions.


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