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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Chris Smart
 

I amazed Skype still exists.



On 2021-04-28 9:48 a.m., Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

 

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 09:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
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The antecedent to the "patent troll" comment would have been, "cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence."
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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Gene
 

Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


question about automatic language switching in tony's enhancements addon

 

Hello.
Sorry if my question was asked before.
I am interested about language switching in tony's enhancements addon but I got a bit confused.

I enabled the automatic switching checkbox and I had a look at the edit language map section.

I asume the first line is the English one.
It says:
en:[a-zA-Z]
If I Understand right the first part is the language code for English.

Then in the brackets we have got a-z in lower cace and then A-Z in capitals.

Do we need the first and the last letter for each alphabet or we could put B-X for example?
How does it know the letters in between?

The language I am interested is Greek.
If I understand right I should write:
el:[α-ωΑ-ω]

Most synths won't be able to read this right I guess.
In the brackets I put the letters alpha and omega the first and the last letter of the Greek alphabet in lower and capital kace.

Assuming what I typed here is correct, can I delete the languages I don't need from the map such as the Russian, Chinese etc?

Thanks a lot.
Nikos


Re: Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Console Toolkit #nvdaaddonsfeed

John J. Boyer
 

Hello,

How well does the toolkit work with a Braille display? I have a Focus 40 from Freedom Scientific. I use only Braille, because I am deaf-blind.

Thanks,
John

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 04:05:45AM -0700, nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration wrote:


* Author: Tony Malykh
* Download stable version ( https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=consoletoolkit )
* NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 to 2020.3

Console Toolkit is NVDA add-on, that provides accessibility improvements for Windows console, also known as Command prompt. It also works well in Windows PowerShell. Some of the features may work in alternative terminals, such as Cygwin, PuTTY and Windows Terminal, however, the add-on has only been carefully tested with the default Windows Console. SSH users might find this add-on especially handy.

Some of the features were previously part of Tony's enhancements add-on ( https://github.com/mltony/nvda-tonys'enhancements/ ).

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Downloads
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Console toolkit ( https://github.com/mltony/nvda-console-toolkit/releases/latest/download/consoleToolkit.nvda-addon )

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Real-time console speech
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This option makes NVDA to speak new lines immediately as they appear in console output, instead of queueing new speech utterances. For example, if NVDA is busy speaking a line that appeared on the screen 1 minute ago, and now a new line appears, this option will cancel speaking the old line and start speaking the new line right away, thus providing a more real-time feedback on what's happening in console window.

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Beep on console updates
-----------------------

Beep a low pitch impulse every time console text is updated.

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Enforce Control+V in consoles
-----------------------------

This option makes Control+V shortcut to work inside ssh sessions.

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Experimental: command prompt editing
------------------------------------

Note: this feature is experimental. Please read this section carefully and make sure you understand how it works before reporting issues.

Press NVDA+E to identify current prompt in console window and edit it in an accessible "Edit prompt" window. After editing you can either press Escape to update current command line, or Enter to update and immediately execute command. Alternatively you can press Alt+F4 to close edit prompt window without updating command line.

This feature has been tested in Windows command prompt cmd.exe as well as in bash shell over ssh connections, as well as in WSL and cygwin. It might also work in alternative Unix shells, however it hasn't been tested.

Here is how add-on extracts current command. 1. It presses End key and then sends a control character, that is a rare Unicodecharacter not likely to be used anywhere. 2. Then it presses home key and sends another control character. 3. Then it waits for control characters to appear on the screen, which might take some time on slow SSH connections. 4. Command is what appears between two control characters. 5. When "Use UI Automation to access the Windows Console when available" option is enabled in NVDA settings, it sends one more control character in the beginning of the string. This is needed to parse multiline commands correctly: UIA implementation trims whitespaces in the end of each line, so in order to deduce whether there is a space between two lines, we need to shift them by one character. Please note, however, that this way we don't preserve the number of spaces between words, we only guarantee to preserve the presence of spaces. 6. Before editing add-on makes sure to remove control characters by placing cursor in the beginning and end and simulating Delete and Backspace key presses. 7. It presents command in "Edit prompt" window for user to view or edit. 8. After user presses Enter or Escape ,it first erases current line in the console. This is achieved via one of four methods, the choice of the method is configurable. Currently four methods are supported: - Control+C : works in both cmd.exe and bash , but leaves previous prompt visible on the screen; doesn't work in emacs; sometimes unreliable on slow SSH connections - Escape : works only in cmd.exe "), - Control+A Control+K : works in bash and emacs ; doesn't work in cmd.exe - Backspace (recommended): works in all environments; however slower and may cause corruption if the length of the line has changed 9. Then add-on simulates keystrokes to type the updated command and optionally simulates Enter key press.

Troubleshooting: - Verify that 'Home', 'End', 'Delete' and 'Backspace' keys work as expected in your console. - Verify that your console supports Unicode characters. Some ssh connections don't support Unicode. - Verify that selected deleting method works in your console.

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Experimental: capturing command output
--------------------------------------

Note: this feature is experimental. Please read this section carefully and make sure you understand how it works before reporting issues.

While in command line or in "Edit prompt" window, press Control+Enter to capture command output. This add-on is capable of capturing large output that spans multiple screens, although when output is larger than 10 screens capturing process takes significant time to complete. Add-on will play a long chime sound, and it will last as long as the add-on is capturing the output of currently running command, or until timeout has been reached. Alternatively, press NVDA+E to interrupt capturing.

When "Use UI Automation to access the Windows Console when available" feature is enabled in NVDA settings, you can switch to other windows while capturing is going on. However, if this option is disabled, then NVDA is using a legacy console code, that only works when consoel is focused, and therefore switching to any other window will pause capturing.

Command capturing works by redirecting command output to less command. Default suffix that is appended to commands is: |less -c 2>&1 Please only change it if you know what you're doing. This add-on knows how to interact with the output of less command to retrieve output page by page.

On Windows less.exe tool needs to be installed separately. You can install it via cygwin, or download a windows binary elsewhere.

If you are using tmux or screen in Linux, please make sure that no status line is displayed in the bottom. In tmux run tmux set status off to get rid of status line, or modify your tmux.conf file.

Troubleshooting: - After a failed output capturing attempt, press UpArrow in the console to check what command has actually been executed. - Revert back to default capturing suffix, mentioned above. - Try troubleshooting steps from "command prompt editing" section.

Link: http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/consoleToolkit.en.html




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Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Win Wizard #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Win Wizard

  • Author: Oriol Gómez, current maintenance by Łukasz Golonka
  • Download stable version
  • NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and beyond

This add-on allows you to perform some operations on the focused window or the process associated with it.

Keyboard commands:

All these commands can be remapped from the Input gestures dialog in the Win Wizard category.

Hiding and showing hidden windows:

  • NVDA+Windows+numbers from 1 to 0 - hides currently focused window in the slot corresponding to the pressed number
  • NVDA+Windows+left arrow - moves to the previous stack of hidden windows.
  • NVDA+Windows+right arrow - moves to the next stack of hidden windows.
  • Windows+Shift+h - hides the currently focused window in the first available slot
  • NVDA+Windows+h - shows the last hidden window
  • Windows+Shift+l - shows the list of all hidden windows grouped by the stacks (please note that by default last hidden window is selected)

Managing processes:

  • Windows+F4 - kills the process associated with the currently focused window
  • NVDA+Windows+p - opens dialog allowing you to set priority of the process associated with the currently focused window

Miscellaneous commands:

  • NVDA+Windows+TAB - switches between top level windows of the current program (useful in foobar2000, Back4Sure etc.) Since this command moves the system focus it can be found in the System focus category of the Input gestures dialog.
  • CTRL+ALT+T - allows you to change title of the currently focused program

Changes:

Changes for 5.0.2:

  • First release available from the add-ons website


Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Console Toolkit #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Console Toolkit

  • Author: Tony Malykh
  • Download stable version
  • NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 to 2020.3

Console Toolkit is NVDA add-on, that provides accessibility improvements for Windows console, also known as Command prompt. It also works well in Windows PowerShell. Some of the features may work in alternative terminals, such as Cygwin, PuTTY and Windows Terminal, however, the add-on has only been carefully tested with the default Windows Console. SSH users might find this add-on especially handy.

Some of the features were previously part of Tony's enhancements add-on.

Downloads

Console toolkit

Real-time console speech

This option makes NVDA to speak new lines immediately as they appear in console output, instead of queueing new speech utterances. For example, if NVDA is busy speaking a line that appeared on the screen 1 minute ago, and now a new line appears, this option will cancel speaking the old line and start speaking the new line right away, thus providing a more real-time feedback on what's happening in console window.

Beep on console updates

Beep a low pitch impulse every time console text is updated.

Enforce Control+V in consoles

This option makes Control+V shortcut to work inside ssh sessions.

Experimental: command prompt editing

Note: this feature is experimental. Please read this section carefully and make sure you understand how it works before reporting issues.

Press NVDA+E to identify current prompt in console window and edit it in an accessible "Edit prompt" window. After editing you can either press Escape to update current command line, or Enter to update and immediately execute command. Alternatively you can press Alt+F4 to close edit prompt window without updating command line.

This feature has been tested in Windows command prompt cmd.exe as well as in bash shell over ssh connections, as well as in WSL and cygwin. It might also work in alternative Unix shells, however it hasn't been tested.

Here is how add-on extracts current command. 1. It presses End key and then sends a control character, that is a rare Unicodecharacter not likely to be used anywhere. 2. Then it presses home key and sends another control character. 3. Then it waits for control characters to appear on the screen, which might take some time on slow SSH connections. 4. Command is what appears between two control characters. 5. When "Use UI Automation to access the Windows Console when available" option is enabled in NVDA settings, it sends one more control character in the beginning of the string. This is needed to parse multiline commands correctly: UIA implementation trims whitespaces in the end of each line, so in order to deduce whether there is a space between two lines, we need to shift them by one character. Please note, however, that this way we don't preserve the number of spaces between words, we only guarantee to preserve the presence of spaces. 6. Before editing add-on makes sure to remove control characters by placing cursor in the beginning and end and simulating Delete and Backspace key presses. 7. It presents command in "Edit prompt" window for user to view or edit. 8. After user presses Enter or Escape,it first erases current line in the console. This is achieved via one of four methods, the choice of the method is configurable. Currently four methods are supported: - Control+C: works in both cmd.exe and bash, but leaves previous prompt visible on the screen; doesn't work in emacs; sometimes unreliable on slow SSH connections - Escape: works only in cmd.exe"), - Control+A Control+K: works in bash and emacs; doesn't work in cmd.exe - Backspace (recommended): works in all environments; however slower and may cause corruption if the length of the line has changed 9. Then add-on simulates keystrokes to type the updated command and optionally simulates Enter key press.

Troubleshooting: - Verify that 'Home', 'End', 'Delete' and 'Backspace' keys work as expected in your console. - Verify that your console supports Unicode characters. Some ssh connections don't support Unicode. - Verify that selected deleting method works in your console.

Experimental: capturing command output

Note: this feature is experimental. Please read this section carefully and make sure you understand how it works before reporting issues.

While in command line or in "Edit prompt" window, press Control+Enter to capture command output. This add-on is capable of capturing large output that spans multiple screens, although when output is larger than 10 screens capturing process takes significant time to complete. Add-on will play a long chime sound, and it will last as long as the add-on is capturing the output of currently running command, or until timeout has been reached. Alternatively, press NVDA+E to interrupt capturing.

When "Use UI Automation to access the Windows Console when available" feature is enabled in NVDA settings, you can switch to other windows while capturing is going on. However, if this option is disabled, then NVDA is using a legacy console code, that only works when consoel is focused, and therefore switching to any other window will pause capturing.

Command capturing works by redirecting command output to less command. Default suffix that is appended to commands is: |less -c 2>&1 Please only change it if you know what you're doing. This add-on knows how to interact with the output of less command to retrieve output page by page.

On Windows less.exe tool needs to be installed separately. You can install it via cygwin, or download a windows binary elsewhere.

If you are using tmux or screen in Linux, please make sure that no status line is displayed in the bottom. In tmux run tmux set status off to get rid of status line, or modify your tmux.conf file.

Troubleshooting: - After a failed output capturing attempt, press UpArrow in the console to check what command has actually been executed. - Revert back to default capturing suffix, mentioned above. - Try troubleshooting steps from "command prompt editing" section.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Monte Single
 

Hi Luke,

You wrote;
" they only wanted the recognition technology, so they could kick Cortana
out of the apartment".

I do not use Kortana, and do not plan to; however, what's the Kortana
apartment thing.
Will it move to a condo, townhouse?

Please note, I refer to Kortana as "it".
I feel the need to have Kortana, Siri, Alexa, Google assistant and all such
machines
Legally declared as its.
I use these things frequently, but it really disturbs me when I hear a
device say;
"I don't understand."

This is totally wrong. I think the genie is already out of the bottle.

I know, I'm way off topic?

Cheers,

Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: April 28, 2021 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition . open source ETI-Eloquence

Nimer Jaber wrote:

So far as I know, Microsoft did buy out Nuance, but the voices did not
go to Microsoft, they were spun off to Cerence I believe. I do hope
someone corrects me if I'm wrong.

That is also how I heard it--they only wanted the recognition technology, so
they could kick Cortana out of the apartment.

Luke

"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not
got it." - George Bernard Shaw


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

 

Hello,

 

So far as I know, Microsoft did buy out Nuance, but the voices did not go to Microsoft, they were spun off to Cerence I believe. I do hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong.

 


 

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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Luke Davis
 

Nimer Jaber wrote:

So far as I know, Microsoft did buy out Nuance, but the voices did not go to Microsoft, they were spun off to Cerence I believe. I do hope someone corrects
me if I'm wrong.
That is also how I heard it--they only wanted the recognition technology, so they could kick Cortana out of the apartment.

Luke

"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

So far as I know, Microsoft did buy out Nuance, but the voices did not go to Microsoft, they were spun off to Cerence I believe. I do hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong.

--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
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Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Chris Smart
 


Re: Bounce Messages from Groups.io #adminnotice

 

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 08:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
The last time I bounced, a message was not sent to verify this
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Because it will only be if automated attempts to unbounce (which are undertaken) do not resolve the issue.

But I will repeat, if you are a member that receives a bounce message from Groups.io, please simply activate the unbounce link.  That is all that is necessary.
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locked Re: test

 

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 08:28 PM, Don H wrote:
With all the scams and such going on I don't often click on links in unknown Emails since I did not know that groups.io sent such Emails.
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Well, you do now.  This topic is locked.  Please do not restart it (anyone) and please do NOT send test messages - they are unnecessary clutter.
 
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locked Re: test

Gene
 

But you can look at the underlying link and see that it is a groups.io link.  Skepticism is important but so is knowing how to determine whether something is what it seems to be.  I haven’t gotten such a message and I don’t know if the link is written out or if it is a link like a click here or unbounce link but it is important to know how to see the underlying link if it isn’t shown.
 
Most things are spam and scams but consider the .unlikeliness of a spammer .knowing you are a member of groups.io.  Its possible, but ..unlikely.  it would take an inordinate amount of work.  Your e-mail account would have to be hacked and your messages monitored so as to determine how to get you to do something. 
 
Someone should be able to tell you how to see the underlying link in cases where it matters like this.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] test
 
With all the scams and such going on I don't often click on links in
unknown Emails since I did not know that groups.io sent such Emails.

On 4/27/2021 7:24 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
>
> On 2021-04-27 6:33 p.m., Don H wrote:
>> I got a Email from Groups.io saying emails sent to me were being bounced.
>>
> There should have been a link to follow in that email to unbounce your
> account.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Bounce Messages from Groups.io #adminnotice

Sarah k Alawami
 

The last time I bounced, a message was not sent to verify this, I think though if you look on the web  you will see if you were  unbounced. So that is another way.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 3:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bounce Messages from Groups.io #adminnotice

 

What follows is not aimed at Don, specifically, but needs to be restated every once in a while.

When Groups.io sends a message to you saying your messages are being bounced, it should contain what is often called an "unbounce link" that you are asked to activate to fix the situation.

That is all you need to do.  Test messages are not necessary.

I could have sworn that Groups.io also sent you a confirmation that you're no longer bouncing after activating the unbounce link, but I could be wrong about that.
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locked Re: test

Don H
 

With all the scams and such going on I don't often click on links in unknown Emails since I did not know that groups.io sent such Emails.

On 4/27/2021 7:24 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
On 2021-04-27 6:33 p.m., Don H wrote:
I got a Email from Groups.io saying emails sent to me were being bounced.
There should have been a link to follow in that email to unbounce your account.


locked Re: test

Chris Smart
 

On 2021-04-27 6:33 p.m., Don H wrote:
I got a Email from Groups.io saying emails sent to me were being bounced.
There should have been a link to follow in that email to unbounce your account.


Re: PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Sandra,

 

Many thanks, luckily for me, my employer does give me jaws though I would really like for NVDA to have this functionality.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Pilz
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view

 

Hi Pranav,

 

You can play media in slide show mode if you use Narrator. I agree, NVDA should really support this, too.

 

JAWS can also recognise headings, tables and so on in slide show mode.

 

Regards

 

Sandra

Am 22.04.2021 um 05:14 schrieb Pranav Lal:

Hi all,

 

I second third and whatever number that request for better powwerpoint support. I need to use the program all the time and NVDA’s support is significantly lacking. I have not tried jaws and narrator.

 

One problem is tables as has already been highlighted in this thread. The next issue is the reporting of object and slide alignment. I need to know if all elements on a slide are visible. Yes, we do get that announcement but suppose I have a table obscured by a picture, where should I move the picture to make sure that both the table and picture are visible?

 

The last issue is playing media in slide show mode. I cannot activate any media in slide show mode.

 

There is training material on Powerpoint from nvaccess but it does not cover the above points.

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Pilz
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view

 

Thank you, Ben and Eilana.

 

I agree, I think it would be good if we had better PowerPoint support. When I went to uni 10-15 years ago, I hardly ever had to use PowerPoint. Now I started another course and have to work through several presentations a week. And may be in business contexts, PowerPoint has been more widely used for a longer time.

 

Regards

 

Sandra

Am 21.04.2021 um 06:19 schrieb Eilana Benish:

I also use JAWS as secondary screen reader

but JAWS does not read headings on my presentation. and I have title place Holder shape in each slide.

Also it seems that JAWS reads bulleted text as  graphics

Both NVDA and JAWS should recognize when the object is a shape with text in that shape, and when it is a picture…

And sometimes when I am moving with down arrow between slides in edit mode JAWS announces with each slide  the slide number and then the words know selection.

Come to think of it there are more issues regarding PowerPoint and I hope that JAWS and NVDA will improve the user experience in Microsoft PowerPoint.

 

 

 

בתאריך יום ג׳, 20 באפר׳ 2021 ב-23:02 מאת <‪benmoxey@...‏>:

Hi Sandra

 

I’m pretty sure this is a current limitation. Happy to be corrected. *smile*

 

Cheers

 

Ben

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Pilz
Sent: Saturday, 17 April 2021 2:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PowerPoint: reading tables in presentation view

 

Hi,

 

I use Office 365. When I open a presentation and activate presentation mode pressing F5, NVDA will not recognise tables, headings and so on where JAWS does. It would be helpful if I could read tables with NVDA in Presentation Mode, is this possible at all?

 

Regards

 

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