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Re: Reading Characters/words/sentences

Quentin Christensen
 

You're most welcome!  BTW, I meant to ask - how did you come across the old link you were using?


On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 4:28 PM Rob Larmour via groups.io <rob.larmour=northyorks.gov.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Fantasic, thank you for your promt response

 

 

Regards

 

Rob Larmour

Resource and Technical Support Officer,

Inclusive Educational Service

Sensory, Physical & Medical Team,

North Yorkshire County Council

County Hall

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DL7 8AD

 

Telephone: 07966319927

Email: rob.larmour@...

www.northyorks.gov.uk

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 28 April 2021 16:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Characters/words/sentences

 

Hi,

Eh? That’s a command reference based on really old NVDA version (the fac that there is no laptop command for status bar announcement command (NVDA+Shift+End) is the evidence of this). I’m sure others will advise you of this, but I recommend reading the quick reference guide for 2020.4 (NVDA menu/Help/Commands quick reference).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Larmour via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading Characters/words/sentences

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I’m using NVDA version 2020.4 and have been using the following GUIDE.

 

In LAPTOP LAYOUT I cannot get all the following keyboard shortcuts to work in WORD, should it?

 

Can anybody help please.

 

 

Move review cursor to previous character

NVDA+m – Says ‘Mouse tracking off’

Move review cursor to start of line

NVDA+Shift+u – Capital U

Say current character at review cursor

NVDA+, - inserts a ,

move review cursor to next character

NVDA+. - WORKS

Move review cursor to end of line

NVDA+Shift+o – Reads current Line

Move review cursor to previous word

NVDA+j – inserts a J

Say current word at review cursor

NVDA+k – inserts a K

Move review cursor to next word

NVDA+l – input help on/off

Move review cursor to previous line

NVDA+u – says no progress bar updates

Move review cursor to first line

NVDA+7 – Focus moves navigator object on/off

Say current line at review cursor

NVDA+ i – Inserts an i

Move review cursor to next line

NVDA+o – Inserts an o

Move review cursor to last line

NVDA+9 –Inserts a 9

 

Regards

 

Rob Larmour

 

 

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Re: Strange problem with NVDA and LibreOffice

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Michael,

Is this the issue you are facing: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4119  There's a lot of discussion on that issue, but basically, you press NVDA+down arrow / NVDA+a to say all, and NVDA only reads the first line or two of the document and stops?

If so, the workaround I found seems to be effective, is to load your document, press CONTROL+END to jump to the end of the document, then control+home back to the start, and then try say all.

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:48 AM Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...> wrote:
Hi everyone. I have a strange problem. It appears when using the ?Say all" command in NVDA with LibreOffice, the command does not work as expected. I use Caps lock as my NVDA modifier key and when I press it, normally it would start reading from the current cursor positon to the end of the document. It is not doing that in this instance. If I use the same command in Word, it works as expected.
I've been able to reproduce the issue multiple times and was wondering what was going on here. I'm using Version: 7.1.2.2 (x64 of LibreOffice. I have a friend who was also able to reproduce the issue, we have both now switched back to word because of it.
My question then is this, is it an NVDA problem or is it a problem for LibreOffice to fix?
I'm also using the latest version of NVDA as well.
Thanks for your help.
From Michael.



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Re: Reading Characters/words/sentences

Rob Larmour
 

Fantasic, thank you for your promt response

 

 

Regards

 

Rob Larmour

Resource and Technical Support Officer,

Inclusive Educational Service

Sensory, Physical & Medical Team,

North Yorkshire County Council

County Hall

Northallerton

DL7 8AD

 

Telephone: 07966319927

Email: rob.larmour@...

www.northyorks.gov.uk

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 28 April 2021 16:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Characters/words/sentences

 

Hi,

Eh? That’s a command reference based on really old NVDA version (the fac that there is no laptop command for status bar announcement command (NVDA+Shift+End) is the evidence of this). I’m sure others will advise you of this, but I recommend reading the quick reference guide for 2020.4 (NVDA menu/Help/Commands quick reference).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Larmour via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading Characters/words/sentences

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I’m using NVDA version 2020.4 and have been using the following GUIDE.

 

In LAPTOP LAYOUT I cannot get all the following keyboard shortcuts to work in WORD, should it?

 

Can anybody help please.

 

 

Move review cursor to previous character

NVDA+m – Says ‘Mouse tracking off’

Move review cursor to start of line

NVDA+Shift+u – Capital U

Say current character at review cursor

NVDA+, - inserts a ,

move review cursor to next character

NVDA+. - WORKS

Move review cursor to end of line

NVDA+Shift+o – Reads current Line

Move review cursor to previous word

NVDA+j – inserts a J

Say current word at review cursor

NVDA+k – inserts a K

Move review cursor to next word

NVDA+l – input help on/off

Move review cursor to previous line

NVDA+u – says no progress bar updates

Move review cursor to first line

NVDA+7 – Focus moves navigator object on/off

Say current line at review cursor

NVDA+ i – Inserts an i

Move review cursor to next line

NVDA+o – Inserts an o

Move review cursor to last line

NVDA+9 –Inserts a 9

 

Regards

 

Rob Larmour

 

 

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Re: Reading Characters/words/sentences

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Rob,

You can find the user guide online: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html  We don't keep a current copy of the commands quick reference online, however you can find it in NVDA's help menu - it is essentially just the keystrokes pulled from the User Guide.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:18 AM Rob Larmour via groups.io <rob.larmour=northyorks.gov.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

 

I’m using NVDA version 2020.4 and have been using the following GUIDE.

 

In LAPTOP LAYOUT I cannot get all the following keyboard shortcuts to work in WORD, should it?

 

Can anybody help please.

 

 

Move review cursor to previous character

NVDA+m – Says ‘Mouse tracking off’

Move review cursor to start of line

NVDA+Shift+u – Capital U

Say current character at review cursor

NVDA+, - inserts a ,

move review cursor to next character

NVDA+. - WORKS

Move review cursor to end of line

NVDA+Shift+o – Reads current Line

Move review cursor to previous word

NVDA+j – inserts a J

Say current word at review cursor

NVDA+k – inserts a K

Move review cursor to next word

NVDA+l – input help on/off

Move review cursor to previous line

NVDA+u – says no progress bar updates

Move review cursor to first line

NVDA+7 – Focus moves navigator object on/off

Say current line at review cursor

NVDA+ i – Inserts an i

Move review cursor to next line

NVDA+o – Inserts an o

Move review cursor to last line

NVDA+9 –Inserts a 9

 

Regards

 

Rob Larmour

 


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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

I've used the Wire web interface with NVDA, but that was just for text
chatting, and it was a while ago.

On 4/28/2021 3:39 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Hope Williamson wrote:

Yeah, I'm also amazed Skype is still around.
Since I think Teams does something similar, it's probably only a
matter of time.

The creators of Skype went on to create Wire, which is supposed to be
a secure alternative to Skype, since MS doesn't encrypt Skype calls
and such.

Last time I tested Wire with NVDA, it was minimally accessible, but I
believe I was able to make and receive calls after some fiddling. But
that was a couple years ago.

Luke





Re: MS Word focus issues

 

Greg,

          Have you looked in Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update, View Update History to see what Windows Quality Updates (in particular) and/or Other Updates may have been applied to Windows over the last few days to a week?

           Since 21H1 is not yet a general release, but in beta (AKA Insiders) state, this could be Windows related, too.

            It is pretty much impossible for those who aren't using what I'll call "bleeding edge" versions of Windows to replicate issues such that they necessarily apply under the ecosystem you're using. If you are not already a member of the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group, and specifically their Insiders subgroup, I'd encourage you to join both and ask on the Insiders subgroup, where someone may be able to attempt replication under the same environmental constraints that you have.
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MS Word focus issues

Greg Williams
 

Hi,

A couple of days ago I started having issues in Word. If I switched to browse mode and moved by heading through a document, when I switched back to focus mode, the cursor is not where I navigated to although it is not where it was before I switched to browse either. I was not aware of having changed any of my focus tracking settings in NVDA, but I tried toggling various combinations of them but to no effect. I also tried restarting NVDA with Add-ons disabled, also with no success. I noticed that Microsoft 365 updated a couple of days ago, so I re-installed the previous version, but it also made no difference. Does anyone have any suggestions because I use this navigation all of the time, and not being able to do it is greatly hampering my productivity.

I am running NVDA 2020.4. Word is version 16.0.13901.20366 (this is the rolled-back version), and my Windows information is

Windows 10 Home Version    21H1
Installed on    ‎4/‎30/‎2020
OS build    19043.962
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3740.0
Thanks.

Greg


Strange problem with NVDA and LibreOffice

Michael Chopra
 

Hi everyone. I have a strange problem. It appears when using the ?Say all" command in NVDA with LibreOffice, the command does not work as expected. I use Caps lock as my NVDA modifier key and when I press it, normally it would start reading from the current cursor positon to the end of the document. It is not doing that in this instance. If I use the same command in Word, it works as expected.
I've been able to reproduce the issue multiple times and was wondering what was going on here. I'm using Version: 7.1.2.2 (x64 of LibreOffice. I have a friend who was also able to reproduce the issue, we have both now switched back to word because of it.
My question then is this, is it an NVDA problem or is it a problem for LibreOffice to fix?
I'm also using the latest version of NVDA as well.
Thanks for your help.
From Michael.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Luke Davis
 

Hope Williamson wrote:

Yeah, I'm also amazed Skype is still around.
Since I think Teams does something similar, it's probably only a matter of time.

The creators of Skype went on to create Wire, which is supposed to be a secure alternative to Skype, since MS doesn't encrypt Skype calls and such.

Last time I tested Wire with NVDA, it was minimally accessible, but I believe I was able to make and receive calls after some fiddling. But that was a couple years ago.

Luke


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Nimer,I think your correct on that one. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

 

Hello,

 

So far as I know, Microsoft did buy out Nuance, but the voices did not go to Microsoft, they were spun off to Cerence I believe. I do hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong.

 


 

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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

The strange thing about the Twitter Periscope thing was that it was a prelaunch acquisition. I mean, we could go all the way back to the Facebook FriendFeed thing, if necessary.

On 4/28/2021 2:06 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Don't forget twitter baught periscope then shut it down march 31 of this year. Apple baught beats, then shut it down, this was I think 2011 to about 2013 or so.

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On 28 Apr 2021, at 13:58, Hope Williamson wrote:

Here are some good examples of acquisitions that resulted in shutdowns. Twitter acquired a blogging platform in 2012.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/12/2865638/twitter-acquires-posterous-blogging-platform

They shut it down a year later.

https://www.techradar.com/news/internet/twitter-to-shut-down-posterous-blogging-service-on-april-30-1131657

Twitter did the same with Vine, which was a video sharing app. They acquired it in 2013.

https://marketingland.com/twitter-acquires-vine-launches-ios-app-for-sharing-6-second-videos-31630

It took about 3 years, but what was left of  Vine still got killed.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/twitter-is-shutting-down-vine/

On 4/28/2021 6:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

 

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 05:10 PM, Gene wrote:
You need to know something about the companies and why the acquiring company wants it.
-
Yep.  Mergers and acquisitions are done for a wide variety of reasons.  It's certainly not accurate to say that they are all based in the desire to "consolidate power" and knock-off the competition.
 
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Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

mk360
 

Yeah, but we have good examples of companies that was acquired by others too and continue working. Facebook acquired instagram and whatsapp and these two apps are still existing. Microsoft (the one about we are speaking) acquired github and it is working fine, same about skype. Oracle acquired sum microsystems and Java still exist.


El 28/04/2021 a las 16:58, Hope Williamson escribió:

Here are some good examples of acquisitions that resulted in shutdowns. Twitter acquired a blogging platform in 2012.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/12/2865638/twitter-acquires-posterous-blogging-platform

They shut it down a year later.

https://www.techradar.com/news/internet/twitter-to-shut-down-posterous-blogging-service-on-april-30-1131657

Twitter did the same with Vine, which was a video sharing app. They acquired it in 2013.

https://marketingland.com/twitter-acquires-vine-launches-ios-app-for-sharing-6-second-videos-31630

It took about 3 years, but what was left of  Vine still got killed.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/twitter-is-shutting-down-vine/

On 4/28/2021 6:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Gene
 

I didn’t say that companies don’t aquire other companies to shut them down but they aquire companies for all sorts of reasons.  They may want specific products or technology the company owns.  They may want to use technology from the company in their own products.  I’m saying that you can’t assume what a company will do because it aquires something.  You need to know something about the companies and why the aquiring company wants it. 
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Here are some good examples of acquisitions that resulted in shutdowns. Twitter acquired a blogging platform in 2012.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/12/2865638/twitter-acquires-posterous-blogging-platform

They shut it down a year later.

https://www.techradar.com/news/internet/twitter-to-shut-down-posterous-blogging-service-on-april-30-1131657

Twitter did the same with Vine, which was a video sharing app. They acquired it in 2013.

https://marketingland.com/twitter-acquires-vine-launches-ios-app-for-sharing-6-second-videos-31630

It took about 3 years, but what was left of  Vine still got killed.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/twitter-is-shutting-down-vine/

On 4/28/2021 6:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Sarah k Alawami
 

Don't forget twitter baught periscope then shut it down march 31 of this year. Apple baught beats, then shut it down, this was I think 2011 to about 2013 or so.

Take care

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Finally, you can support my work on happs, the network of now.

On 28 Apr 2021, at 13:58, Hope Williamson wrote:

Here are some good examples of acquisitions that resulted in shutdowns. Twitter acquired a blogging platform in 2012.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/12/2865638/twitter-acquires-posterous-blogging-platform

They shut it down a year later.

https://www.techradar.com/news/internet/twitter-to-shut-down-posterous-blogging-service-on-april-30-1131657

Twitter did the same with Vine, which was a video sharing app. They acquired it in 2013.

https://marketingland.com/twitter-acquires-vine-launches-ios-app-for-sharing-6-second-videos-31630

It took about 3 years, but what was left of  Vine still got killed.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/twitter-is-shutting-down-vine/

On 4/28/2021 6:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

Yeah, I'm also amazed Skype is still around.

On 4/28/2021 7:23 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I amazed Skype still exists.



On 2021-04-28 9:48 a.m., Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

Here are some good examples of acquisitions that resulted in shutdowns. Twitter acquired a blogging platform in 2012.

https://www.theverge.com/2012/3/12/2865638/twitter-acquires-posterous-blogging-platform

They shut it down a year later.

https://www.techradar.com/news/internet/twitter-to-shut-down-posterous-blogging-service-on-april-30-1131657

Twitter did the same with Vine, which was a video sharing app. They acquired it in 2013.

https://marketingland.com/twitter-acquires-vine-launches-ios-app-for-sharing-6-second-videos-31630

It took about 3 years, but what was left of  Vine still got killed.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/27/twitter-is-shutting-down-vine/

On 4/28/2021 6:48 AM, Gene wrote:
Your assumption is unsupported.  As was said here by another member,, Microsoft bought the company for its speech recognition software.  Microsoft has ;purchased companies before to aquire software they want to further develop and integrate into Windows. 
 
You seem to assume that most acquisitions are for suppression.  While I would think some are to eliminate competition, that can hardly be assumed. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence
 

Probably doesn't do any development at all. Most likely will be just a patent troll.

On 4/28/2021 1:43 AM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:

Yep, Microsoft bought Nuance, and cerence is a new company, which develops all old good nuance products, including text to speech synthesizers like vocalizer and eloquence.


Re: Petition · open source ETI-Eloquence

Hope Williamson
 

It isn't really a matter of what the purpose is. the result is usually
consolidation, which most often ends with something or another getting
done away with. That's usually part of whatever got acquired, or all of
it in most cases.


Re: question about automatic language switching in tony's enhancements addon

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi Tony!

I’ve downloaded the latest git committed version of the addon.

I’ve found the bug with the language switching, that is, it doesn’t work with sapi5 synth, although all options were set.

Best,

Zvonimir

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about automatic language switching in tony's enhancements addon

 

Hi!

1. You're right; this is language code followed by regular expression for all letters of that language.
2. Assuming "el" is the right code for Greek, your line looks correct to me.
3.You can also google "regexp for greek" and compare yours to what other people are using.
4. Yes, you can delete Russian and Chinese - but it shouldn't affect anything.
HTH

Tony

 

On 4/28/2021 5:57 AM, Nikos Demetriou via groups.io wrote:

Hello.

Sorry if my question was asked before.

I am interested about language switching in tony's enhancements addon but I got a bit confused.

 

I enabled the automatic switching checkbox and I had a look at the edit language map section.

 

I asume the first line is the English one.

It says:

en:[a-zA-Z]

If I Understand right the first part is the language code for English.

 

Then in the brackets we have got a-z in lower cace and then A-Z in capitals.

 

Do we need the first and the last letter for each alphabet or we could put B-X for example?

How does it know the letters in between?

 

The language I am interested is Greek.

If I understand right I should write:

el:[α-ωΑ-ω]

 

Most synths won't be able to read this right I guess.

In the brackets I put the letters alpha and omega the first and the last letter of the Greek alphabet in lower and capital kace.

 

Assuming what I typed here is correct, can I delete the languages I don't need from the map such as the Russian, Chinese etc?

 

Thanks a lot.

Nikos


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 21.04 released #addonrelease

Pauline Smith
 

Thank you very much for your response.  Also, thank you for the reminder that the info can be found in the NVDA User manual and under which section.

Pauline

On 4/27/2021 5:50 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Pauline Smith wrote:

I'm sure this query has been answered more than once.  My apologies for asking again.  Where do you get this and other add-ons?
As explained in section 13.5 of the NVDA user manual:

From within the add-ons manager (NVDA+n, t, a), you can press the "get add-ons"
button, which will take you to the official add-ons website.
There you can download stable or development add-ons, and see what is available.

That is the same site for which you were given a link earlier.

Luke



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