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Re: OCR with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA will work on scanned PDFs, although with the caveat noted earlier about the amount visible on screen.

I believe, Jaws has a commercial OCR engine, and just like Eloquence, the cost of that is part of what you pay for Jaws.  If you would like the same for NVDA, purchasing something like Abbyy FineReader will give you more OCR functionality using NVDA.

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 3:39 AM David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I was trying to recognize a scanned PDF. JAWS Convenient OCR does this very nicely, but after first saying “empty document.” Sounds like the NVDA OCR will not work on scanned PDFs if they start out as empty documents. Is this correct?

David



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Re: NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

Luke Davis
 

No idea in particular, but you might try the windows native ssh client. It may work better for some reason.
Or open a bash shell under WSL, and use SSH from there.

As for NVDA: try starting it with add-ons disabled. It may be that there was an add-on update, and it had a negative effect.

I don't know if the COM Registration Fixing Tool can help you here, but it won't hurt to try it (NVDA tools menu).

Also, normal Windows trouble shooting steps of
SFC /ScanNow
and:
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

Might help, depending on what's actually wrong.

Luke
May the fourth be with you all.

Gary wrote:

I am using the latest release of NVDA (2020.4) on Windows 10. My job
requires that I work on Linux systems ll day, which I do via Putty.
This afternoon, out of nowhere, NVDA stopped automatically reading the
output of the Putty windows, making my job impossible. I'm dead in
the water, basically.


Re: NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

Chris Smart
 

Whoops someone beat me to it. :)



On 2021-05-04 4:15 p.m., Gary wrote:
That was it.  Thank you so much!


On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 04:07 PM, <benmoxey@...> wrote:
Hi Gary

I'm guessing the reporting of dynamic content changes has been accidently turned off.

Toggle this feature with NVDA + 5 (on the number row).

You can find this option in the Object Presentation Settings screen with Control + NVDA + O.

Cheers

Ben



Re: NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

Chris Smart
 

What happens if you toggle NVDA+5, reporting of dynamic content changes?


 Accidentally turned this off and it broke some things here.

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On 2021-05-04 3:34 p.m., Gary wrote:
I am using the latest release of NVDA (2020.4) on Windows 10.  My job
requires that I work on Linux systems ll day, which I do via Putty.
This afternoon, out of nowhere, NVDA stopped automatically reading the
output of the Putty windows, making my job impossible.  I'm dead in
the water, basically.

Does anybody have any ideas what would cause this?  I don't see any
settings that control this.  I'm out of ideas and frazzled.

Gary






Re: NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

Gary
 

That was it.  Thank you so much!


On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 04:07 PM, <benmoxey@...> wrote:
Hi Gary

I'm guessing the reporting of dynamic content changes has been accidently turned off.

Toggle this feature with NVDA + 5 (on the number row).

You can find this option in the Object Presentation Settings screen with Control + NVDA + O.

Cheers

Ben



Re: NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

benmoxey@...
 

Hi Gary

I'm guessing the reporting of dynamic content changes has been accidently turned off.

Toggle this feature with NVDA + 5 (on the number row).

You can find this option in the Object Presentation Settings screen with Control + NVDA + O.

Cheers

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2021 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

I am using the latest release of NVDA (2020.4) on Windows 10. My job requires that I work on Linux systems ll day, which I do via Putty.
This afternoon, out of nowhere, NVDA stopped automatically reading the output of the Putty windows, making my job impossible. I'm dead in the water, basically.

Does anybody have any ideas what would cause this? I don't see any settings that control this. I'm out of ideas and frazzled.

Gary


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use beeps mode when I need to read stuff on the screen that I don't need speech for. One ATC program takes about an hour to install, and all that shows up is a mess of cmd like prompts so I turn off speech and set it to beeps and just listen to the screen and eat lunch or what ever I'm doing. The high pitched beep tells me that something is happening but I don't need to deal with it right now.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 12:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Not sure why you would use beeps as such either.

Onecore is the new way windows does its voices, I think its the same stuff as cortana.


With the right voices and a few extras you can get extra access to some
of those though sapi is the prefered platform.

Maybe there are slight quality improvements but its slight.



On 4/05/2021 12:35 pm, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Two questions, both having been sparked by recent topics:
1. What's the difference between Windows One Core voices and Sapi5
voices? It seems I have the same voices with both systems, with the
addition to One Core of Mark.
2. I'm not sure I understand the speech and beeps setting that NVDA+S
toggles to? What's the difference between that and the beeps you get
with a progress bar?
Thanks,
Bob





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NVDA Stopped Reading Putty

Gary
 

I am using the latest release of NVDA (2020.4) on Windows 10. My job
requires that I work on Linux systems ll day, which I do via Putty.
This afternoon, out of nowhere, NVDA stopped automatically reading the
output of the Putty windows, making my job impossible. I'm dead in
the water, basically.

Does anybody have any ideas what would cause this? I don't see any
settings that control this. I'm out of ideas and frazzled.

Gary


Re: OCR with NVDA

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

I was trying to recognize a scanned PDF. JAWS Convenient OCR does this very nicely, but after first saying “empty document.” Sounds like the NVDA OCR will not work on scanned PDFs if they start out as empty documents. Is this correct?

David


Re: Find On Page

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Should be NVDA Key Plus F3, not just F3 to repeat the find.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 16 April 2021 21:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Find On Page

 

I have always tried both control + F and then when I remember/rediscover that it doesn't work, I try insert + control + F and that never works right either.

It should take me to the word, and F3 should repeat it, but it does something, but the word is nowhere around my cursor.

Glenn


Re: Focus 14 Braille display and NVDA

dennis huckle
 

I sent a message just after joining this group.

I’ll re-phrase this.

Is there a way with the braille extender add on to configurwe a focus 14 freedom scientific braille display to replicate key strokes such as alt+n ctrl+n or in goldwave ctrl+f8 or ctrl+f9.

Any suggestions welcome.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: 04 May 2021 15:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [node] OCR with NVDA

 

Apologies and my note was a clear affirmation of the concept of the direct  connection between haste and waste!

 

Best,

Rick,

Former WGBH AD development team in another age ,.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR with NVDA

 

Yes, a good number of older films should be revisited to receive AD.

 

When few options were there, started looking for those that might address relationships and there again some outstanding examples but no AD.

 

What thoughts have you about R rated films?

Me&G

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR with NVDA

 

Yes being able to only OCR what is visible on screen is definitely a limitation.  I normally recommend setting documents to 100% zoom or page width etc.  If you have the document zoomed out so you can see 100 pages on screen, NVDA won't be able to recognise any text on such small pages.  If you have it zoomed in so you can only see one character, that's all it will be able to recognise.  Knowing the limitations, the OCR feature is useful, but doesn't replace a fully functional OCR program.

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:27 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 05:23 PM, Sascha Cowley wrote:

The Windows 10 OCR built in to NVDA only recognises text that is visible on screen.

-
Thanks.  This is what I thought I had recalled about the scope of what gets OCRed.  Not that this can't be handy, that's for sure, but if I want an entire file OCRed I pre-process with the OCR software of my choosing before ever opening it in the PDF reader of my choosing.
 
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Re: [node] OCR with NVDA

ely.r@...
 

Apologies and my note was a clear affirmation of the concept of the direct  connection between haste and waste!

 

Best,

Rick,

Former WGBH AD development team in another age ,.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR with NVDA

 

Yes, a good number of older films should be revisited to receive AD.

 

When few options were there, started looking for those that might address relationships and there again some outstanding examples but no AD.

 

What thoughts have you about R rated films?

Me&G

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR with NVDA

 

Yes being able to only OCR what is visible on screen is definitely a limitation.  I normally recommend setting documents to 100% zoom or page width etc.  If you have the document zoomed out so you can see 100 pages on screen, NVDA won't be able to recognise any text on such small pages.  If you have it zoomed in so you can only see one character, that's all it will be able to recognise.  Knowing the limitations, the OCR feature is useful, but doesn't replace a fully functional OCR program.

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:27 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 05:23 PM, Sascha Cowley wrote:

The Windows 10 OCR built in to NVDA only recognises text that is visible on screen.

-
Thanks.  This is what I thought I had recalled about the scope of what gets OCRed.  Not that this can't be handy, that's for sure, but if I want an entire file OCRed I pre-process with the OCR software of my choosing before ever opening it in the PDF reader of my choosing.
 
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nvda I'm looking for 3 add-ons

marinos.poulimas
 

Hello everyone my name is Marinos I am from Greece I have tried to look for a website that has nvda add-ons other than the nvda homepage but I find a few On various pages which are not upgraded or have not been set to play on any nvda version is some very useful not only for me but also for others who need to have nvda in this version anyway I want to ask if there are any add-ons for the following nvda features 1. I want to read AnyDesk program can not to read the nvda when I run AnyDesk 2. add-on to read the nvda settings from programs that are antivirus and 3. if there is an add-on to be able to read the nvda with braille display here I have the question that I have found to buy some braille display bar but i am not sure the add-ons nvda itself will be accessible to work braille display bar anyone who knows some complete I will be happy to send you an answer I apologize for any mistakes in English but I do it via Google Translate


Re: NVDA and Ardour

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Sarah,

Thanks very much for the help ,
it is very useful .

Regards,
Vinod Benjamin

On 5/2/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a groups.io list you can look for. They are very helpful there.
Also google for the reaper accessibility wiki. Lots of info there.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vinod Benjamin
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 9:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Ardour

Dear team,

Is there any tutorial for Reaper , with NVDA.

it would be great if some one could help me with.

Regards,

Vinod Benjamin

On 5/2/21, Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com> wrote:
Shaun Everiss wrote:

Of course you can build this yourself but they simply don't tell you
how to build this for windows.
Though there is this (pay special attention to the comments):
https://discourse.ardour.org/t/building-ardour-on-windows-with-msys2/8
8079

But that said, Shaun is right. Unless Ardour really does something
that just nothing else on the planet can do--and I find that very
unlikely--almost any other solution is going to be preferable to going
down this path.

Try Audacity.
If it's not enough, pay for Reaper. It's worth it in time if not in
features, and it is worth it in features.

Luke
















Re: Is there a more complete Emoji dictionary anywhere for Espeak?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Luke,

I have that thanks, and have now implemented it.

But I wonder how to get the same effect for Android? I really need a better Emoji dictionary for it.

Thanks again.

All the best

Steve

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: 12 April 2021 04:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a more complete Emoji dictionary anywhere for Espeak?

On Tue, 30 Mar 2021, Steve Nutt wrote:

I am using NVDA more and more now in my daily work, but I do find it
frustrating that Espeak doesn’t pronounce many Emojis correctly. For
example, the Colon followed by Right Bracket, should be “Smiling Face with Smiling Eyes”.
But it is oddly pronounced by Espeak as Twelve.
Hi Steve

I know this was a couple weeks ago, but during this thread, I don't think anyone mentioned the Emoticons add-on, which might be of some help to you.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/./addons/emoticons.en.html

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Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

 

Not sure why you would use beeps as such either.

Onecore is the new way windows does its voices, I think its the same stuff as cortana.


With the right voices and a few extras you can get extra access to some of those though sapi is the prefered platform.

Maybe there are slight quality improvements but its slight.

On 4/05/2021 12:35 pm, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Hi all,
Two questions, both having been sparked by recent topics:
1. What's the difference between Windows One Core voices and Sapi5
voices? It seems I have the same voices with both systems, with the
addition to One Core of Mark.
2. I'm not sure I understand the speech and beeps setting that NVDA+S
toggles to? What's the difference between that and the beeps you get
with a progress bar?
Thanks,
Bob




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Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Gene
 

I’m not sure if this is more than you are asking.  My understanding is that One Core voices aren’t SAPI.  MSAPI, I believe that stands for Microsoft Speech Application program interface, is a standard that anyone can use to make compatible synthesizers for Windows.  I don’t know what MSAPI voices Microsoft may have but there are a lot of companies and developers who have developed MSAPI voices.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 7:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] a couple questions sparked by recent topics
 
Hi all,
Two questions, both having been sparked by recent topics:
1. What's the difference between Windows One Core voices and Sapi5
voices? It seems I have the same voices with both systems, with the
addition to One Core of Mark.
2. I'm not sure I understand the speech and beeps setting that NVDA+S
toggles to? What's the difference between that and the beeps you get
with a progress bar?
Thanks,
Bob





Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Luke Davis
 

Hi Bob

To your second question: the NVDA+s "beeps speech mode" option, replaces all speech with quiet, high-frequency beeps.

So any time your computer talks, or you try to read the screen, etc., you will get a short burst of beeps.

It is potentially useful when you want to know things are still happening on your computer, without hearing the details.
For example, if you are running an encoding process that prints unhelpful verbose messages to the screen. You want to know when it's finished, but you don't want to be distracted by the messages. Set to beeps speech mode, and you will get mostly unintrusive beeps instead.
When they stop, you know it's time to switch back to speech mode talk.

The progress bar beeps mode is just that: when a true progress bar is in a window, you can have the progress of that progress bar spoken in percentage, or emitted as beeps that get higher in pitch as the progress bar progresses.

And now, after typing that sentence, I feel the need to say: how much progress could a progress bar make, if a progress bar could make progress?

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Announcing Graphics in Browse mode when using Email program

Sam Taylor
 

Hello all,

When reading mail line by line using NVDA, I want to be notified of a graphic such as an in-line picture, or a signature. The only way I know that this is on-screen is by using object navigation. Thunderbird is my email program of choice.
Is there a way to accomplish what I'm requesting via an add-on or a setting which I may not have found?
Thanks
Sam


Re: a couple questions sparked by recent topics

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Bob,

1) Windows OneCore Voices are higher quality and more responsive than SAPI5, and are the ones actively being worked on by Microsoft.  SAPI5 is an older standard which is still widely used so you may find some third party software (such as Balabolka for instance) which can use SAPI 5 voices, but not OneCore voices.

2) Speech and beeps is mostly used by people leaving the computer to perform a long task, who want to hear when it is finished, but don't want to hear it talking all the time.  If you don't have a need for this mode, there is a NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on which disables it: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/noBeepsSpeechMode.en.html

Quentin.

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:36 AM Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Two questions, both having been sparked by recent topics:
1. What's the difference between Windows One Core voices and Sapi5
voices? It seems I have the same voices with both systems, with the
addition to One Core of Mark.
2. I'm not sure I understand the speech and beeps setting that NVDA+S
toggles to? What's the difference between that and the beeps you get
with a progress bar?
Thanks,
Bob







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