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Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

 

Hmmm where do you get these mods.
I will have to limit those to my workstation only.

On 11/09/2016 10:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes. Also there is a mod to make explorer have normal non ribbon menus
but beware its non reversable except by taking the computer back.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start


Hi there: sorry this is old. Can a sighted person use classic shell on
her ten machine?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-21-16 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



http://www.classicshell.net/



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 7:21 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, Where do you get classic shell? I’m asking this shell I end up
getting windows ten.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo Vorster
Sent: August-21-16 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hi



There is method in the madness of teaching Windows+M and Windows+d.



Windows+D maximize the desktop while Windows+M minimize it.



I have found that installing Classic Shell is a great help. This make
Win10 look like win7.



By the way, Classic Shell is free.



Regards



Christo Vorster (Worcester South Africa)



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

I think I figured it out.

The top row is folders and under that is a grid of everything in those
folders. The problem is that grid is really strangely shaped and if you
press an arrow key you may jump to another folder. Nice thing is it will
announce the new folder, but that is also what makes it so confusing.



*Note* windows + d also takes you to the desktop like windows + m does,
you only need to use one hand though. I've never understood why they
teach windows + m when windows + d is easier to do and remember.

Thanks,




Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@gmail.com> wrote:

Haha, a fun one! First, and apologies to those who may disagree, but it
seems to me that currently, the Start menu on 10 with NVDA is slightly
less than pleasant to use. :)
I've changed mine up now, I got tired of how crappy it was working for
me so I took all the stuff out of the pinned apps area so it no longer
shows up, but this is what I was able to figure out.

When you first press the start button and it lands you in the search
box, you can press tab, either once or twice and it should take you to a
vertical list containing a fairly large number of apps and some of their
associated folders. As you arrow up and down here, NVDA will first read
the section you come to, so A, B, etc and then under those, read you
apps that fall under those sections. As you probably already know, it's
here that you can press the applications key and pin said apps to the
start menu.

As for the area where Apps actually get pinned, it looks like shift tab
is what you want, so doing it from the search box should land you there.
It's here that you should be able to use the arrow keys to move up,
down, left and right in the grid, but unfortunately, NVDA seems to read
things here all weird. As something that looks similar to how IOS likes
to create named directories based on the names of the stuff you put in
them, as you're moving around here, you'll come to these named sections
and can press enter to rename them. As you're moving around here, you'll
land on these sections, lets say, Audio and Music just as an example and
can sometimes press down or wright and it will start reading you the
pinned apps under that section. If you happen to only have one or two
things here though, It's sometimes hard to get it to land where you want
on the icon or whatever.

I've wondered if it's possible to turn off the structuring of the apps
you pin here and just have them in a huge grid, but if so, I've not
figured it out.
I'm also not sure if this is something that NVDA just hasn't caught up
with and if there are things in the pipe down the road that will make it
more friendly, but so far, it is kind of a pain to use. haha

If you play with it though and figure out anything else, I'd certainly
be interested.
Take care.

On 8/20/2016 10:17 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

The reason why one uses the start menu is so you don't need to open apps
to do things like your calendar, whether, news and stocks. you just
arrow over those items and you hear what they are.

Thanks,



Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@swbell.net> wrote:

Hello Brandon,



I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop. This is
a two-step process. Hit the windows key, type in the application name,
hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the
context menu and go to the send-to menu. Hit the desktop option. Hit
windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the
application, and you will land on it. Note that on the desktop, once
you find a and select application, you can hit f2 and change the
shortcut’s name.







Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things
clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in
order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all
the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>















Re: ducking and how to stop it

 

well go to sounds and communications and turn that off.
I would also uncheck in skype general options the checkboxes for mic and speaker automatic control.
This is still why I really don't care for ducking or any audio enhancements.
Manufacturers use those for making little speakers sound cool
They end up sucking as far as sspeech goes though.
As for ducking I can see where it would rock, but I can see where it just sucks and most people have ducking all over the place in every place but the right one.

On 12/09/2016 8:20 a.m., ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:
Hi NVDA list a question for anyone who is using windows 10 was trying to help a player in games galore with a voicechat game. he was having problems with his TC web conference plugin. was using skype so he could give instructions or hear the game in play, but the web conference plugin audio dropped low as the computer gave skype’s volume priority. we are going to probably end it early since that player lost his connection to me and one other player isn’t here. does anyone know how to tell windows 10 not to duck audio? microsoft answer desk didn’t know. any help for future use will be appreciated.


Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

 

Well I managed once to get imap set on my dads via the control panel which touchwood has been the same since office 95.
However after I did all the crazy stuff that was setting up and making sure things were subscribed via imap, the only thing I can't seem to get used to are the message tree view and navigating from folder to folder I do not know how to do this.
If you are happy with ribbons then you can use it.
However to be frank there are still programs like thunderbird which has a lot less clutter.

On 11/09/2016 5:15 p.m., Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:
Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am
planning on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how
accessible Microsoft outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Arlene
 

Hmmm, perhaps whatever he does works.  Like I said with my xp Compaq it crawled on IE just before I donated it to a sighted user.  Firefox it was beautiful.  It was still slow.  It didn’t even have a dvd player.  The person who used it only used it for schooling.  If I had kept it. It would have died perhaps 2011.  Or sooner.  It couldn’t hold jaws 11. I had to go back to ten.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-11-16 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

 

I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

 

I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>







Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Lino Morales
 

Speech crashes alltogether. I restart NVDA while iTunes still running. Alt tab back to the iTunes window and it's gone again. I have to restart both using the task manager or doing a full restart altogether.


On 9/11/2016 7:38 PM, Gene wrote:
What do you mean by silent speech.  Are you saying that if you move away from or close ITunes, speech resumes or are you saying that speech crashes? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Well as I already stated month ago I use MS David. I did however once use crappy ESpeak with the same result.


On 9/11/2016 7:15 PM, Gene wrote:
The message describing the problem said more like silent speech.  That implies that speech is crashing.  And that raises the question of what synthesizers people are using, which may account for the different results.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Strange because i use nvda all the time and i can browse and the like
picking what i want no crashs of nvda this i can prove if people so wish
me to.


On 9/11/2016 11:58 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
> That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will
> crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V
> 2015.3 into the current version.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I
>> agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that's Apple.  Now they are starting to do it with
>>> their hardware too.  :-(
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
>>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they
>>>> cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do
>>>> not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something
>>>> normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing
>>>> that only runs with their software.
>>>> I feel better now!
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"
>>>> <linomorales001@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its
>>>>> annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage
>>>>> your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus
>>>>> iTunes isn't what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of
>>>>>> nvda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've
>>>>>> wrote, nvda doesn't speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and
>>>>>> you need to restart it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda
>>>>>> goes away there's no speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

yes, it sure can be used, i have been using it this way since the 31 of aug.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
 
I was able to log in using your procedure.  It appears that I can use Drop Box though I haven't done any testing to be sure that it works properly after I log in.  It treated my login as though Drop Box were on a new machine and took awhile to index the files I already had in the Drop Box folder on my machine.  But after awhile, it changed its system tray message to up to date.  So it appears that even though Drop box sent messages saying it can't be used with XP any longer, it may be able to be.
 
GGene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
 
And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when you do the same thing by rebooting? 
 
Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use the program in this way but it is not what is intended.  I received two messages before the termination date telling me that the program can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself.  If you can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know.  But I doubt it is just a one time procedure.  I suspect you have to do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you do the equivalent by rebooting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to
the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u
in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly.  You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser.  You are not
using the Drop Box desktop program.  All you are doing is using control g to
have the program run your default browser and open the login page.  If you
look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it
never progresses.  You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space
other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can
do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing.  You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know.  You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>

















Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I was able to log in using your procedure.  It appears that I can use Drop Box though I haven't done any testing to be sure that it works properly after I log in.  It treated my login as though Drop Box were on a new machine and took awhile to index the files I already had in the Drop Box folder on my machine.  But after awhile, it changed its system tray message to up to date.  So it appears that even though Drop box sent messages saying it can't be used with XP any longer, it may be able to be.
 
GGene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when you do the same thing by rebooting? 
 
Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use the program in this way but it is not what is intended.  I received two messages before the termination date telling me that the program can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself.  If you can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know.  But I doubt it is just a one time procedure.  I suspect you have to do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you do the equivalent by rebooting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to
the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u
in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly.  You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser.  You are not
using the Drop Box desktop program.  All you are doing is using control g to
have the program run your default browser and open the login page.  If you
look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it
never progresses.  You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space
other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can
do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing.  You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know.  You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>

















Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

it works multiple times, and i did report it to them, and they said it still works on xp.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when you do the same thing by rebooting?

Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use the program in this way but it is not what is intended. I received two messages before the termination date telling me that the program can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself. If you can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know. But I doubt it is just a one time procedure. I suspect you have to do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you do the equivalent by rebooting.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to
the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u
in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly. You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser. You are not
using the Drop Box desktop program. All you are doing is using control g to
have the program run your default browser and open the login page. If you
look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it
never progresses. You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space
other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can
do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when you do the same thing by rebooting? 
 
Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use the program in this way but it is not what is intended.  I received two messages before the termination date telling me that the program can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself.  If you can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know.  But I doubt it is just a one time procedure.  I suspect you have to do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you do the equivalent by rebooting.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to
the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u
in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly.  You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser.  You are not
using the Drop Box desktop program.  All you are doing is using control g to
have the program run your default browser and open the login page.  If you
look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it
never progresses.  You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space
other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can
do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing.  You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know.  You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>

















Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u in.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there directly. You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser. You are not using the Drop Box desktop program. All you are doing is using control g to have the program run your default browser and open the login page. If you look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it never progresses. You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there directly.  You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser.  You are not using the Drop Box desktop program.  All you are doing is using control g to have the program run your default browser and open the login page.  If you look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it never progresses.  You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can do directly in your browser.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing.  You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know.  You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>














Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Matt Turner
 

Hi gene.

For me, it happens when I'm in the iTunes store.

For example, I could be using down arrow thru a page, then nvda goes away.

To get NVDA  back, I have to hit ctrl+alt+n.
After nvda restarts, I have to end the process of iTunes with task manager, because for some reason iTunes doesn't respond.

On 9/11/2016 7:38 PM, Gene wrote:
What do you mean by silent speech.  Are you saying that if you move away from or close ITunes, speech resumes or are you saying that speech crashes? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Well as I already stated month ago I use MS David. I did however once use crappy ESpeak with the same result.


On 9/11/2016 7:15 PM, Gene wrote:
The message describing the problem said more like silent speech.  That implies that speech is crashing.  And that raises the question of what synthesizers people are using, which may account for the different results.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Strange because i use nvda all the time and i can browse and the like
picking what i want no crashs of nvda this i can prove if people so wish
me to.


On 9/11/2016 11:58 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
> That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will
> crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V
> 2015.3 into the current version.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I
>> agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that's Apple.  Now they are starting to do it with
>>> their hardware too.  :-(
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
>>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they
>>>> cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do
>>>> not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something
>>>> normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing
>>>> that only runs with their software.
>>>> I feel better now!
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"
>>>> <linomorales001@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its
>>>>> annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage
>>>>> your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus
>>>>> iTunes isn't what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of
>>>>>> nvda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've
>>>>>> wrote, nvda doesn't speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and
>>>>>> you need to restart it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda
>>>>>> goes away there's no speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a web page to log in.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the Drop Box desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a browser and then use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are describing.  You have to log in using the Drop Box desktop program as far as I know.  You can't log in using a browser and then use the desk top program without logging in with that program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
>>
>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
>
>
>
>











Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Gene
 

What do you mean by silent speech.  Are you saying that if you move away from or close ITunes, speech resumes or are you saying that speech crashes? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Well as I already stated month ago I use MS David. I did however once use crappy ESpeak with the same result.


On 9/11/2016 7:15 PM, Gene wrote:
The message describing the problem said more like silent speech.  That implies that speech is crashing.  And that raises the question of what synthesizers people are using, which may account for the different results.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Strange because i use nvda all the time and i can browse and the like
picking what i want no crashs of nvda this i can prove if people so wish
me to.


On 9/11/2016 11:58 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
> That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will
> crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V
> 2015.3 into the current version.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I
>> agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that's Apple.  Now they are starting to do it with
>>> their hardware too.  :-(
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
>>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they
>>>> cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do
>>>> not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something
>>>> normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing
>>>> that only runs with their software.
>>>> I feel better now!
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"
>>>> <linomorales001@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its
>>>>> annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage
>>>>> your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus
>>>>> iTunes isn't what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of
>>>>>> nvda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've
>>>>>> wrote, nvda doesn't speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and
>>>>>> you need to restart it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda
>>>>>> goes away there's no speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Navigation Pane

Gene
 

Even if this works, and I never tried it, enter should still be used as originally described.  Not using enter and just pressing escape introduces needless possible confusion.  It is important for people to clearly understand the difference between the initial search command and the find next and previous occurrences commands.  The logical way to use search is to press enter after typing the search string and moving to the first occurrence.  In many programs, this must be done.  Things should be kept consistent and uniform if possible.  I wouldn't want to have to explain to people that you don't have to press enter in Word but you do in your browser or in Notepad or in wordpad, etc.  This is one unnecessary and needless inconsistency.  It doesn't even save a keystroke.  Instead of pressing enter, you press page down one more time so the number of keystrokes remains the same.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

Bingo, Chris!

 

My colleague Ronan McGuirk’ and I have just discovered this same routine and I am about to post it to the list. I have just one stroke different from you: I would suggest that the user not press enter after typing in the search word in the Navigation window but press escape after completing the typing, just as you advised. That will leave the user at the point in the document where they started. The first time they press CTRL-PageDown they will hear the full line of text where the key word is located. I found that after I press enter  I only hear the keyword itself.  Would you do me a favour and let me know what you think of the procedure which I describe in my next email, please? I would rather have it complete and agreed by experienced users as I am passing it on to some children who are learning the technique.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

I used Word a lot when I was working and have never used a list of occurrence of my search criteria.  This is how I used it.

 

I don't know if this is true of later versions of Word but works in Word 2007 and prior.  Use Ctrl+f to invoke search dialog, type in search criteria and press enter.  This will find first instance forward of current document position.  Press escape to dismiss search dialog, then use Ctrl+pagedown to search  forwards, ctrl+PageUp to search backwards through the document.  Search will ask if you want to wrap around when top/bottom is reached.   .   

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 11 September 2016 13:28
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to log in, and had no issues.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Lino Morales
 

Well as I already stated month ago I use MS David. I did however once use crappy ESpeak with the same result.


On 9/11/2016 7:15 PM, Gene wrote:
The message describing the problem said more like silent speech.  That implies that speech is crashing.  And that raises the question of what synthesizers people are using, which may account for the different results.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Strange because i use nvda all the time and i can browse and the like
picking what i want no crashs of nvda this i can prove if people so wish
me to.


On 9/11/2016 11:58 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
> That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will
> crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V
> 2015.3 into the current version.
>
>
> On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I
>> agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that's Apple.  Now they are starting to do it with
>>> their hardware too.  :-(
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
>>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they
>>>> cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do
>>>> not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something
>>>> normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing
>>>> that only runs with their software.
>>>> I feel better now!
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"
>>>> <linomorales001@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its
>>>>> annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage
>>>>> your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus
>>>>> iTunes isn't what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of
>>>>>> nvda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've
>>>>>> wrote, nvda doesn't speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and
>>>>>> you need to restart it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda
>>>>>> goes away there's no speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I don't know why it is working forMike.  It doesn't work here with XP and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general.  Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago!  My very first xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11.  It couldn’t handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box.  I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have.  I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


> Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use  them POS machines? No.
> I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.
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> On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
>> Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
>> wrong.
>>
>> It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
>> Point
>> of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.
>>
>> You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
>> be so
>> abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
>> doing
>> to keep it going.
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>> Antony.
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>> On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:
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>>> Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
>>> Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
>>> 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
>>> indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
>>> content.
>>>
>>> On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>>>> Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
>>>> running on xp.
>>>> It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
>>>> messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
>>>> did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
>>>> security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
>>>> however many of us do have xp  updates till 2019, and really should
>>>> not be all  shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
>>>> users are seen these days.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
>>>> <arno.schuh@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
>>>>> tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
>>>>> itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
>>>>> didn't let you in with an old version of the client.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Arno
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Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Gene
 

The message describing the problem said more like silent speech.  That implies that speech is crashing.  And that raises the question of what synthesizers people are using, which may account for the different results.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

Strange because i use nvda all the time and i can browse and the like
picking what i want no crashs of nvda this i can prove if people so wish
me to.


On 9/11/2016 11:58 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
> That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will
> crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V
> 2015.3 into the current version.
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> On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I
>> agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
>>> Unfortunately that's Apple.  Now they are starting to do it with
>>> their hardware too.  :-(
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
>>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they
>>>> cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do
>>>> not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something
>>>> normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing
>>>> that only runs with their software.
>>>> I feel better now!
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> bglists@...
>>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>>> Please address personal email to:-
>>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>>> in the display name field.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales"
>>>> <linomorales001@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its
>>>>> annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage
>>>>> your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus
>>>>> iTunes isn't what it used to be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of
>>>>>> nvda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've
>>>>>> wrote, nvda doesn't speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and
>>>>>> you need to restart it again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda
>>>>>> goes away there's no speech.
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