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Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

First, thanks for your responses to my query.
Second, I downloaded NVDA (current version) and the third party
website was able to be utilized as before.
I suppose there are several of us who prefer using one browser, and or
one screen reader, that works well when necessary most or all the
time.

If MS Edge and other MS products receive less than stellar reviews by
tech or anti-virus sites, is not one putting their device at risk by
relying on only adequate computer ware?

NVDA went up significantly in my likeability as a result of this
experience between it, Narrator and the third party website.
I don't want nor need a bunch of extra 'stuff' on my computer..
Thanks again!

--
David C. Russell, Author


Be prepared for some bumps in the NVDA road - Major Change is coming . . . #adminnotice

 

Hello All,

That major change is at the level of the NVDA code itself, and while that is not something that should concern you directly, the possible side effects, particularly in reference to add-ons, is likely to.

The add-on application program interface (API) is to be updated to version 2021.1. This means add-ons not declaring support for NVDA 2021.1 in their manifests will be marked as incompatible. It doesn't matter if they're really incompatible or not, because this is the mechanism that is used to check compatibility, and invariably, due to a combination of factors, the add-on manifests sometimes don't get updated in perfect synchrony with the NVDA code.  Plenty of add-ons that are now and will be perfectly compatible will end up being flagged as incompatible, and that will stop once the necessary tweak is made to their manifests.

All of that detail shouldn't concern you, either, but I wanted folks to be aware of why this is likely to happen.  And it's most likely to occur when the beta versions of the next version of NVDA begin to show up.

If it occurs, please do not panic, it is most likely to get worked out once the incompatibility is flagged. If one of your favorite add-ons continues to be flagged as incompatible for a couple of days after you first see that, then do your add-on developer a favor and let them know.  Many will be fixed before even a couple of days passes, which is why I don't suggest that everyone flood the developer's inbox immediately.

The purpose of this message is to make clear that the sky is well and truly not falling, though the possibility of it seeming like it is exists. There is almost certain to be a bump or two, at a minimum.  Stay calm and carry on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Try reflector. It works actually quite good for mirroring devices. I think I posted this already but not sure it made it onto the list.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Android devices  do this . 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi, I really don’t think so. If you want to have that kind of thing. I think you’d be better off if you can find the right phone that will support NVDA. The I phone is apple.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mohammad suliman
Sent: May 20, 2021 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi all,

hope all of you are doing well,

 

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?

Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

 

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,

Mohammad

 


Re: NVDA and Edge Chromium

Chris Shook
 

Hi,
I just wanted to thank you all for your help with Edge Chromium.
It doesn't work near as well as I'd hoped it would, but I can use it if I want to.
I appreciate all your help.
Chris


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Hope Williamson
 

I use Chrome, Firefox, and Brave, which is Chromium. I figure one of them will work.

    I used to run Waterfox, but current is unstable and classic is outdated.

On 5/20/2021 9:11 AM, Gene wrote:
I don’t see any reason why Windows version should make a difference.  Most sites work well in both Chrome and Firefox.  But if a site doesn’t, those who want the best chance of getting better or good access should have both on their machine. 
 
It doesn’t matter what the default browser is.  All that having a browser be the default means is that it opens when you do something like follow a link from an e-mail.  It doesn’t affect a browsers performance in any way aside from that. 
 
Gene
 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 11:02 AM
Subject: [nvda] Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)
 
Hello NVDA Group,

If a particular website and NVDA were compatible on a Windows Seven
computer, is it highly likely the same will be the case if used on a
Windows 10 computer with Chrome rather than FireFox as the default
browser?

Thank you for your input in advance.

--
David C. Russell





Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Luke Davis
 

Arlene wrote:

Can I cloud be used with windows? I use gmail. Just curious.
Absolutely. I'm not sure how "I use gmail" relates to the question, but you can download and install iCloud for Windows. It will not interfere with Gmail.
In fact, it doesn't really include anything related to the mail component except maybe contacts.

Then you can use iCloud Drive (cloud file storage synched with your iDevices), and various other iCloud features through a more or less accessible interface.
I use that to move files to and from my iPhone all the time.
I only use the iCloud Drive feature, so can only speak directly to that.

Works fine with NVDA.

You can use iCloud mail via IMAP as Brian pointed out. I used to have my @me.com address accessed from Linux that way, but haven't done it in a while.

no different than using a Gmail account in the iOS mail app.
Luke


Re: How to use NVDA to navigate and use text boxes inserted in MS Word

Rowen Cary
 

I have a new view. In the MS help file, I learned that you can use ctrl+alt+5, which seems pretty good.
Thank you everyone


Re: How to use NVDA to navigate and use text boxes inserted in MS Word

Rowen Cary
 


Thanks to Quentin and others who provided useful information.
Can NVDA or other add-ons provide a way to read and fill in such text boxes? It's good to use forms, but I often receive this kind of documents that use text boxes, which is beyond my control.

Thanks.


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

Android devices  do this . 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi, I really don’t think so. If you want to have that kind of thing. I think you’d be better off if you can find the right phone that will support NVDA. The I phone is apple.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mohammad suliman
Sent: May 20, 2021 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi all,

hope all of you are doing well,

 

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?

Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

 

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,

Mohammad

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Arlene
 

H, okay. I’m okay with gmail. I was just curious.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: May 20, 2021 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

Arlene,

Presuming iCloud has standard IMAP access protocol, it can be used in an email client under any operating system, including Android and Linux, in addition to Windows.  You just have to add the account to your email client.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

Arlene,

Presuming iCloud has standard IMAP access protocol, it can be used in an email client under any operating system, including Android and Linux, in addition to Windows.  You just have to add the account to your email client.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Arlene
 

Yes, I cloud is apple mail. I have an I phone. It was given to me as a gift. I don’t have my gmail on it. I know it can be done that’s why I asked if I cloud can be used in a windows email client. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: May 20, 2021 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

Virtually any I software you can name that's not iOS has a Windows port.

But I'm not clear how iCloud would come in to the picture relative to Gmail.  I may be remembering wrong, since I don't use Apple, but I thought iCloud was Apple's equivalent of OneDrive, Google Drive, DropBox, etc.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

Virtually any I software you can name that's not iOS has a Windows port.

But I'm not clear how iCloud would come in to the picture relative to Gmail.  I may be remembering wrong, since I don't use Apple, but I thought iCloud was Apple's equivalent of OneDrive, Google Drive, DropBox, etc.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Arlene
 

Can I cloud be used with windows? I use gmail. Just curious.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: May 20, 2021 9:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

Brian Vogel wrote:

 

> Simple answer:  Yes.There will be the rare exception, but even those rare exceptions should not go from wonderfully accessible to "I can't get at anything

> anymore."

 

You've clearly never tried to use iCloud.com in Chrome vurses Firefox. :)

 

After that experience you might be less general in that statement.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hi, I really don’t think so. If you want to have that kind of thing. I think you’d be better off if you can find the right phone that will support NVDA. The I phone is apple.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mohammad suliman
Sent: May 20, 2021 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi all,

hope all of you are doing well,

 

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?

Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

 

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,

Mohammad

 


Re: weird issue with windows 21h1

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi Again:  As an insider I reported the error for you.  You might want to report it as well to Feedback hub.

Dave

On 5/18/2021 12:08 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well today I decided to install the latest windows feature update.

I checked for updates.

It loaded everything fine.

I then went to install the feature update.

I got error 0x08000fff immediately which was strange.

The update however did install without a problem.

On restart though I get a please wait from windows update sfc and dizm havn't done much but its not like its all dead, the system works.

I tried uninstalling, restoring and trying again.

Same thing, I tried on my asus desktop which had the update, it didn't happen and everything worked as expected.

In the short to medium term even long term its not bad, I have latest drivers for my display and chipset, as well as audio according to hp which is realtech.

The update and restart and update and shutdown boxes exist, but its not like the system aint going to run.

As long as I can install updates manually I guess it will be ok.

One thing's for sure though I will hold off on updating my media backups, those are 20h2 or 2004 and probably I don't need to bother updating them I guess.

Not ssure what I will do.

One thing I will not do is ring microsoft tech support.

To many bad memmories.

The system works, it boots and its not broken.






Re: weird issue with windows 21h1

Dave Grossoehme
 

Hi There:  I'd wait a short time and see what happens.  Some users were getting an error message when updating in an for the insiders a couple of weeks ago.  It's being worked on.  It's possible that where your problem is.

Dave

On 5/18/2021 12:08 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

Well today I decided to install the latest windows feature update.

I checked for updates.

It loaded everything fine.

I then went to install the feature update.

I got error 0x08000fff immediately which was strange.

The update however did install without a problem.

On restart though I get a please wait from windows update sfc and dizm havn't done much but its not like its all dead, the system works.

I tried uninstalling, restoring and trying again.

Same thing, I tried on my asus desktop which had the update, it didn't happen and everything worked as expected.

In the short to medium term even long term its not bad, I have latest drivers for my display and chipset, as well as audio according to hp which is realtech.

The update and restart and update and shutdown boxes exist, but its not like the system aint going to run.

As long as I can install updates manually I guess it will be ok.

One thing's for sure though I will hold off on updating my media backups, those are 20h2 or 2004 and probably I don't need to bother updating them I guess.

Not ssure what I will do.

One thing I will not do is ring microsoft tech support.

To many bad memmories.

The system works, it boots and its not broken.






Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thereis reflector, and even zoom, however I will warn you, the delay is such that if you are trying to demo something time sensetive, it might or might not work depending on what it is.

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On 20 May 2021, at 11:25, mohammad suliman wrote:

Hi all,
hope all of you are doing well,

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?
Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,
Mohammad


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

tim
 

No, because its apple.

You can use xcode with a mac or iPad to emulate a iPhone. Now how far that accessibility goes not sure.

On 5/20/2021 2:25 PM, mohammad suliman wrote:
Hi all,
hope all of you are doing well,

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?
Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,
Mohammad


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

Richard Kuzma
 

Good afternoon,

I don’t know of anything here, but would be definitely interested also if there is.

Thanks,

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mohammad suliman
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 2:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi all,

hope all of you are doing well,

 

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?

Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

 

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,

Mohammad

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