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Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

JM Casey
 

No, but to root the phone you would use an exe file running on a pC. The exe file will be in some folder on the pC, not on the android device – not sure how or if you can access the Android via command prompt as unlike other usb devices, I don’t think they’re assigned a normal drive letter (at least my Samsung j120 isn’t when I connect it)

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: May 21, 2021 08:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

Brian,

This is what I tried to imply before.

However if our friend is using an android phone and wants to access throuth the cmd I don’t really know what he wants to achieve as the programs on an android aren’t exe files.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 May 2021 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

Gene is correct.  Most times, for things like rooting software, it's not installed and its location is not added to the system PATH variable.  You need to be sitting in the folder/directory where that software is located, or you must fully qualify the path to the exe file.

It's usually much, much easier to change directory (and the command is CD) to the location where the thing you're trying to run is resident.  If you don't and its folder is not part of system path, you will get precisely the error message mentioned at the outset.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Brian,

This is what I tried to imply before.

However if our friend is using an android phone and wants to access throuth the cmd I don’t really know what he wants to achieve as the programs on an android aren’t exe files.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 May 2021 01:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

Gene is correct.  Most times, for things like rooting software, it's not installed and its location is not added to the system PATH variable.  You need to be sitting in the folder/directory where that software is located, or you must fully qualify the path to the exe file.

It's usually much, much easier to change directory (and the command is CD) to the location where the thing you're trying to run is resident.  If you don't and its folder is not part of system path, you will get precisely the error message mentioned at the outset.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

JM Casey
 

Yeah…you can also navigate to the location (folder) using file exlorer and select “open command prompt at this location” in the context menu,if that makes it easier.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: May 21, 2021 08:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

Gene is correct.  Most times, for things like rooting software, it's not installed and its location is not added to the system PATH variable.  You need to be sitting in the folder/directory where that software is located, or you must fully qualify the path to the exe file.

It's usually much, much easier to change directory (and the command is CD) to the location where the thing you're trying to run is resident.  If you don't and its folder is not part of system path, you will get precisely the error message mentioned at the outset.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

Gene is correct.  Most times, for things like rooting software, it's not installed and its location is not added to the system PATH variable.  You need to be sitting in the folder/directory where that software is located, or you must fully qualify the path to the exe file.

It's usually much, much easier to change directory (and the command is CD) to the location where the thing you're trying to run is resident.  If you don't and its folder is not part of system path, you will get precisely the error message mentioned at the outset.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Gene
 

Where you are when you enter the commands may matter.  Do the instructions say anything about what directory, in Windows they are called folders you should be in? 


Gene

On 5/21/2021 6:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 07:07 PM, dennis huckle wrote:
The command prompt should put in to your user directory.
-
Only if you open command prompt without administrator privilege.  When you do that, you should be in your home folder, usually C:\Users\{your user identifier}

If you open command prompt with administrator privilege, you will be placed in C:\Windows\system32  (provided Windows was installed with typical settings).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 07:07 PM, dennis huckle wrote:
The command prompt should put in to your user directory.
-
Only if you open command prompt without administrator privilege.  When you do that, you should be in your home folder, usually C:\Users\{your user identifier}

If you open command prompt with administrator privilege, you will be placed in C:\Windows\system32  (provided Windows was installed with typical settings).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


signing in

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

I really have to say thanks to nvda.

In the past I have used jaws before my pc starts, but I notice that at sign in nvda is far more accessible.

JJaws for me is now beginning to go “out of the window.

Many thanks to nvda.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Again,
When connecting your android phone you might get something on your phone such as charging or power transfer.
This matters as you should insure your phone is set to file transfer.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: 22 May 2021 00:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Hi JM Casey:
Maybe you can help me better.
Actually, I am trying to root my Android phone, and I am expected to type in some commands in to the CMD window. I have to have my phone connected to my computer.
I do al these, and I type the appropriate commands, and I get the messages I spelt out in my earlier mail.
That is the issue. I've tried doing this several times.
Ibrahim.

On 5/22/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
And, as a diagnostic test, use a simple command dir as the thing you
either type or paste in, then hit enter.  DIR has been a valid Windows
command for as long as windows has existed.  And if you've opened
Command Prompt with admin privileges, and are sitting in
C:\Windows\system32 you will get a long stream of results from the DIR
command.

Command prompt is not case sensitive.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win
unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon






Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello again,
Your phone should be recognised as a drive.
However the progrmams on your phone aren't exe files.
So I don't know what you want to look at on your phone.
A better way might go in windows to this pc, cursor down to your phone drive and press enter.
You will notice several directories on your phone.
So, give us more of an idear of what you exactly want to achieve.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: 22 May 2021 00:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Hi JM Casey:
Maybe you can help me better.
Actually, I am trying to root my Android phone, and I am expected to type in some commands in to the CMD window. I have to have my phone connected to my computer.
I do al these, and I type the appropriate commands, and I get the messages I spelt out in my earlier mail.
That is the issue. I've tried doing this several times.
Ibrahim.

On 5/22/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
And, as a diagnostic test, use a simple command dir as the thing you
either type or paste in, then hit enter.  DIR has been a valid Windows
command for as long as windows has existed.  And if you've opened
Command Prompt with admin privileges, and are sitting in
C:\Windows\system32 you will get a long stream of results from the DIR
command.

Command prompt is not case sensitive.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win
unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon






Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi JM Casey:
Maybe you can help me better.
Actually, I am trying to root my Android phone, and I am expected to
type in some commands in to the CMD window. I have to have my phone
connected to my computer.
I do al these, and I type the appropriate commands, and I get the
messages I spelt out in my earlier mail.
That is the issue. I've tried doing this several times.
Ibrahim.

On 5/22/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
And, as a diagnostic test, use a simple command
dir
as the thing you either type or paste in, then hit enter.  DIR has been a
valid Windows command for as long as windows has existed.  And if you've
opened Command Prompt with admin privileges, and are sitting in
C:\Windows\system32 you will get a long stream of results from the DIR
command.

Command prompt is not case sensitive.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless
you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

~ Richard M. Nixon






Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

The command prompt should put in to your user directory.
However to go to your route directory press c:\
That should put you where you need to be.
Just from there type notepad.
That should put you to the notepad app.
Sometimes you may need to change options in cmd.
Press alt and space then tab to properties then tab to use tty console or something like that.
Check that box and exit cmd by typing exit and enter.
The next time you run cmd things should be ok.
But as mentioned by another person on list you can only get to exe files by typing the name of the program as mentioned above.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: 21 May 2021 23:47
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Hello:
I'm having problems with the command prompt on windows.
I get in to the command prompt window by typing CMD in to the run dialog box and press enter.
I then hear: Administrator: windows system 32CMD .x terminalB user Ibrahim Now, when I type anything in to the box and press enter, I always get the message saying: command is not recognized as an internal or external command.
Even when I paste something in to the box, I get the same message.
What exactly is going on here. What am I not doing properly. So, how can I use the command prompt.
I've never used it before now.
Hope my issue is very well understood.
Thanks for your help.
Ibrahim.


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

 

And, as a diagnostic test, use a simple command 
dir
as the thing you either type or paste in, then hit enter.  DIR has been a valid Windows command for as long as windows has existed.  And if you've opened Command Prompt with admin privileges, and are sitting in C:\Windows\system32 you will get a long stream of results from the DIR command.

Command prompt is not case sensitive.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

JM Casey
 

What exactly are you typing in, or pasting?
That is the message you get when the command is invalid or there is no executable in the set path with that name. So the error explains exactly what is going on. But you say it happens every time so I assume you are trying different things?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: May 21, 2021 06:47 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Hello:
I'm having problems with the command prompt on windows.
I get in to the command prompt window by typing CMD in to the run dialog box and press enter.
I then hear: Administrator: windows system 32CMD .x terminalB user Ibrahim Now, when I type anything in to the box and press enter, I always get the message saying: command is not recognized as an internal or external command.
Even when I paste something in to the box, I get the same message.
What exactly is going on here. What am I not doing properly. So, how can I use the command prompt.
I've never used it before now.
Hope my issue is very well understood.
Thanks for your help.
Ibrahim.


Help Wanted With The Command Prompt On Windows

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hello:
I'm having problems with the command prompt on windows.
I get in to the command prompt window by typing CMD in to the run
dialog box and press enter.
I then hear: Administrator: windows system 32CMD .x terminalB
user Ibrahim
Now, when I type anything in to the box and press enter, I always get
the message saying: command is not recognized as an internal or
external command.
Even when I paste something in to the box, I get the same message.
What exactly is going on here. What am I not doing properly. So, how
can I use the command prompt.
I've never used it before now.
Hope my issue is very well understood.
Thanks for your help.
Ibrahim.


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Gene
 

What less than stellar reviews?  Edge is considered by many computer observers as a better browser than Google and what I’ve read about it is persuasive. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 1:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] RE Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Websites
 
Hello NVDA Group,

First, thanks for your responses to my query.
Second, I downloaded NVDA (current version) and the third party
website was able to be utilized as before.
I suppose there are several of us who prefer using one browser, and or
one screen reader, that works well when necessary most or all the
time.

If MS Edge and other MS products receive less than stellar reviews by
tech or anti-virus sites, is not one putting their device at risk by
relying on only adequate computer ware?

NVDA went up significantly in my likeability as a result of this
experience between it, Narrator and the third party website.
I don't want nor need a bunch of extra 'stuff' on my computer..
Thanks again!

--
David C. Russell, Author





Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

Hope Williamson
 

As an example, I currently run NVDA, JAWS, and have used narrator in crash situations. As for browsers, I have Chrome, Firefox, and Brave. Of course Edge is here, but I don't use it.

On 5/21/2021 11:51 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
David,

           I don't know of a single person who doesn't have a preferred screen reader and a preferred browser, and who uses each of these things, separately and together, almost all the time.

           At the same time, I don't know of a single person who has not experienced either a website that doesn't "play nice" with their preffered screen reader (no matter the browser) or have an occasion where a web site just works much better under one browser or another regardless of the screen reader.  Thus, if you want to save yourself a lot of grief, you have a minimum of two screen readers and two browsers, so that on the odd occasion where one or the other is "being cranky" you can mix and match to get over the bump and to know which of the two is "the cranky party."

            In any version of Windows, you can pretty much count on whatever Microsoft ships with it being supported by any major screen reader maker for the PC platform.  Edge is just another of many Chromium-based browsers, all of which have good reputations and have proven themselves robust and as safe as can reasonably be expected.

             Your own description of what went down with regard to Narrator versus NVDA and a specific website is the textbook example of why knowledge of at least two screen readers, even if proficiency with one of those two falls into the "I can just get by for very typical stuff" level, and two browsers is necessary.  If you stick with any two of the Chromium-based browsers the things you already know from one will transfer directly over to the other.  (There are a few exceptions with regard to Edge, as Microsoft decided to keep certain terminology they've always liked, e.g., Favorites rather than the otherwise ubiquitous Bookmarks, and the commands sometimes differ a bit as a result.  But those are few compared to what is shared between any two Chromium-based browsers.)
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

 

David,

           I don't know of a single person who doesn't have a preferred screen reader and a preferred browser, and who uses each of these things, separately and together, almost all the time.

           At the same time, I don't know of a single person who has not experienced either a website that doesn't "play nice" with their preffered screen reader (no matter the browser) or have an occasion where a web site just works much better under one browser or another regardless of the screen reader.  Thus, if you want to save yourself a lot of grief, you have a minimum of two screen readers and two browsers, so that on the odd occasion where one or the other is "being cranky" you can mix and match to get over the bump and to know which of the two is "the cranky party."

            In any version of Windows, you can pretty much count on whatever Microsoft ships with it being supported by any major screen reader maker for the PC platform.  Edge is just another of many Chromium-based browsers, all of which have good reputations and have proven themselves robust and as safe as can reasonably be expected.

             Your own description of what went down with regard to Narrator versus NVDA and a specific website is the textbook example of why knowledge of at least two screen readers, even if proficiency with one of those two falls into the "I can just get by for very typical stuff" level, and two browsers is necessary.  If you stick with any two of the Chromium-based browsers the things you already know from one will transfer directly over to the other.  (There are a few exceptions with regard to Edge, as Microsoft decided to keep certain terminology they've always liked, e.g., Favorites rather than the otherwise ubiquitous Bookmarks, and the commands sometimes differ a bit as a result.  But those are few compared to what is shared between any two Chromium-based browsers.)
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Screen Reader Compatibility with Third Party Website(s)

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

First, thanks for your responses to my query.
Second, I downloaded NVDA (current version) and the third party
website was able to be utilized as before.
I suppose there are several of us who prefer using one browser, and or
one screen reader, that works well when necessary most or all the
time.

If MS Edge and other MS products receive less than stellar reviews by
tech or anti-virus sites, is not one putting their device at risk by
relying on only adequate computer ware?

NVDA went up significantly in my likeability as a result of this
experience between it, Narrator and the third party website.
I don't want nor need a bunch of extra 'stuff' on my computer..
Thanks again!

--
David C. Russell, Author


Be prepared for some bumps in the NVDA road - Major Change is coming . . . #adminnotice

 

Hello All,

That major change is at the level of the NVDA code itself, and while that is not something that should concern you directly, the possible side effects, particularly in reference to add-ons, is likely to.

The add-on application program interface (API) is to be updated to version 2021.1. This means add-ons not declaring support for NVDA 2021.1 in their manifests will be marked as incompatible. It doesn't matter if they're really incompatible or not, because this is the mechanism that is used to check compatibility, and invariably, due to a combination of factors, the add-on manifests sometimes don't get updated in perfect synchrony with the NVDA code.  Plenty of add-ons that are now and will be perfectly compatible will end up being flagged as incompatible, and that will stop once the necessary tweak is made to their manifests.

All of that detail shouldn't concern you, either, but I wanted folks to be aware of why this is likely to happen.  And it's most likely to occur when the beta versions of the next version of NVDA begin to show up.

If it occurs, please do not panic, it is most likely to get worked out once the incompatibility is flagged. If one of your favorite add-ons continues to be flagged as incompatible for a couple of days after you first see that, then do your add-on developer a favor and let them know.  Many will be fixed before even a couple of days passes, which is why I don't suggest that everyone flood the developer's inbox immediately.

The purpose of this message is to make clear that the sky is well and truly not falling, though the possibility of it seeming like it is exists. There is almost certain to be a bump or two, at a minimum.  Stay calm and carry on.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them.  And then you destroy yourself.

       ~ Richard M. Nixon

 


Re: Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Try reflector. It works actually quite good for mirroring devices. I think I posted this already but not sure it made it onto the list.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 6:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Android devices  do this . 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2021 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi, I really don’t think so. If you want to have that kind of thing. I think you’d be better off if you can find the right phone that will support NVDA. The I phone is apple.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mohammad suliman
Sent: May 20, 2021 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible iPhone screen mirroring software with NVDA

 

Hi all,

hope all of you are doing well,

 

I think the subject line pretty says it all. Is someone aware of an accessible screen mirroring software with NVDA to mirror the screen of the iPhone?

Does the software (if it exists) supports having voiceover sound come from the PC speakers?

 

Thanks for any kind of help you may have,

Mohammad

 

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