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Re: Option to copy portable configuration missing when installing, can anyone help?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

That's great, Many thanks for letting me know.

Very best wishes,

Mo.

On 31/05/2021 13:10, zahra wrote:
hello.
as i read what's new of nvda 2021.1, this issue is resolved in this version.

On 5/31/21, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone.

Ever since I upgraded my portable copy of NVDA on my pen drive to
2020.4, the option to copy portable configuration is missing when I
install it on subsequent machines. Is this a bug? Or by design? Is there
any way I can copy the portable configuration on the first attempt? If I
first install NVDA then run the portable copy again, the option to copy
the portable configuration becomes available when I click install.

Very best wishes,

Mo.








Re: Option to copy portable configuration missing when installing, can anyone help?

 

hello.
as i read what's new of nvda 2021.1, this issue is resolved in this version.

On 5/31/21, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone.

Ever since I upgraded my portable copy of NVDA on my pen drive to
2020.4, the option to copy portable configuration is missing when I
install it on subsequent machines. Is this a bug? Or by design? Is there
any way I can copy the portable configuration on the first attempt? If I
first install NVDA then run the portable copy again, the option to copy
the portable configuration becomes available when I click install.

Very best wishes,

Mo.







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Option to copy portable configuration missing when installing, can anyone help?

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hello Everyone.

Ever since I upgraded my portable copy of NVDA on my pen drive to 2020.4, the option to copy portable configuration is missing when I install it on subsequent machines. Is this a bug? Or by design? Is there any way I can copy the portable configuration on the first attempt? If I first install NVDA then run the portable copy again, the option to copy the portable configuration becomes available when I click install.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


Re: Missing Addon

Rui Fontes
 

Hi Andrea!


I suppose it is Enhanced Phonetic Reading. Here is a version compatible with new Alphas and Beta version of 2021.1, adapted by me:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q75mnyttr34zjpm/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:21 de 31/05/2021, Andrea Sherry escreveu:

The Addon I am missing is one which causes the pronunciation of letters in the phonetic sound when moving the cursor i.e. a alpha, b bravo etc.

Can't seem to locate this on the community addons site.

Andrea





Missing Addon

Andrea Sherry
 

The Addon I am missing is one which causes the pronunciation of letters in the phonetic sound when moving the cursor i.e. a alpha, b bravo etc.

Can't seem to locate this on the community addons site.

Andrea


Re: in NVDA how to use different voices for keyboard, reading and menues like in JAWS

 

And for those who feel as Sarah does, and after an NVDA GitHub Issue Link has been provided (Issue 4433), please take the time to comment on that issue.  The value in that is it can help to serve in priority setting in addressing issues.

If what's already in the issue conversation doesn't cover exactly what it is you're looking for, then be sure to describe exactly what it is you'd like in your comment.

This one's been out there and open since 2014 and never got much attention other than for a short period after being opened.
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Re: NVDA SHUTDOWN PROBLEM BUG

Chris
 

Nope , exit doesnt work either from the nvda menu

Fortunately nVDA + Q does

 

 

From: tim
Sent: 30 May 2021 16:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SHUTDOWN PROBLEM BUG

 

Need more confirmation of this bug.

 

using latest beta  and tried to shut NVDA 2021.1BETA1 down by menu command.

 

It gave a error and restarted sounds. I actually had to shut it down by

task manager.

 

Did a restart and got same action. You can't turn NVDA off.

 

So see what you get and if same will do bug report.

 

 

 

 

 

 


NVDA SHUTDOWN PROBLEM BUG

tim
 

Need more confirmation of this bug.

using latest beta  and tried to shut NVDA 2021.1BETA1 down by menu command.

It gave a error and restarted sounds. I actually had to shut it down by task manager.

Did a restart and got same action. You can't turn NVDA off.

So see what you get and if same will do bug report.


Re: in NVDA how to use different voices for keyboard, reading and menues like in JAWS

Andre Fisher
 

Yes.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4433


Re: in NVDA how to use different voices for keyboard, reading and menues like in JAWS

Sarah k Alawami
 

Is there an issue for this on github? I'm not on there at the moment. I do like the idea, and if you do to, why not submit the issue and see where it goes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] in NVDA how to use different voices for keyboard, reading and menues like in JAWS

hi.
its not possible in nvda until current versions at least.
i dont know whether any addon is available or not.

On 5/29/21, ganesh reddy <ganigk8@gmail.com> wrote:
Hai all!
I Am Ganesh from Hyderabad, India.
in JAWS
we can set different voices for reading, menues, dialogue boxes and
keyboard.
Can we achieve the same functionality in NVDA

Like, my text has to read: Reed,
keyboard has to read: Shelly
and dialogue box has to read bobby.
or
is there any Add-ON or any method to get the same functionality
through NVDA?

i am using windows-10 PRO 64 BIT with NVDA 20.4
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Re: Add-ons for Adobe addition 3.zero

 

I using Audition cc 2021 
Audition is best

On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:30 AM Socheat <socheat.mt.lc@...> wrote:
There are none I believe. Even for 1.5. Your best bet is to use Reaper
with Osara and sws extensions.

On 5/24/2021 4:19 PM, Charlie Dyasi wrote:
> I just want to know is there  ad on for Nvda that you can use Adobe audition 3.0?
>
>
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Re: in NVDA how to use different voices for keyboard, reading and menues like in JAWS

 

hi.
its not possible in nvda until current versions at least.
i dont know whether any addon is available or not.

On 5/29/21, ganesh reddy <ganigk8@gmail.com> wrote:
Hai all!
I Am Ganesh from Hyderabad, India.
in JAWS
we can set different voices for reading, menues, dialogue boxes and
keyboard.
Can we achieve the same functionality in NVDA

Like, my text has to read: Reed,
keyboard has to read: Shelly
 and dialogue box has to read bobby.
or
is there any Add-ON or any method to get the same functionality through
NVDA?

i am using windows-10 PRO 64 BIT with NVDA 20.4
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Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

NVDA's various sounds can be found (if you installed in the default directory) in C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\waves

The one being discussed here is focusMode.wav.  It is a combination of a high pitched pure tone with what sounds like a teletype character being struck going on beneath it at the same time, but running slightly longer, as the pure tone is clearly gone when you hear the end of the strike.
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Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

Sarah k Alawami
 

I think teletype, and I didn’t say printing, I said telegraph, like from the 18 hundreds, at least, I think I said that? I like it though.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

It wasn’t a typing sound.  it was either a printing press ssound or a teletype  sound, I’m not sure..

 

Gene

Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 1:48 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

I know. I’m dating myself just a little bit lol! I remember that sound well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Years ago there was a typing sound whenever you heard news reporters.

 

 

On 5/28/2021 10:08 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually it is a typing sound. In the 1800s the telegraph used that sound, or at least somethingn close to it. So I know what that means.

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On 28 May 2021, at 8:27, Gene wrote:

If it were a typing sound, it might make more sense.  But it is something like a high pitched camera sound you might heare on a phone.  It doesn’t have any association with a mode and I find the sound to be grating and annoying. 

 

Also, for those learning NVDA, I don’t think sound should be used.  Repetition is important in learning and hearing actual words would help those learning both become more aware of the terms and perhaps be more aware of when they are in which mode. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

The typing sound means focused mode, the bop noise means browse mode, it makes sense actually.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 7:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

NVDA space toggles browse mode off and on.  But if you are using sound for the notification, I don’t know which sound means what and I don’t like using sounds instead of speech in such ways.  I have NVDA set to say browse mode when it is on and focus mode when it is off.  If you want to change from sound to speech, I’ll explain how to do it. 

 

Also, by default, NVDA automatically changes from Browse Mode to focus mode and back again depending on what structures you move to in a web page and how you move.

 

I am very much against this being default behavior.  I think it is confusing to new students of NVDA and causes them to concentrate on learning when the automatic changes occur when what they should be concentrating on is when to use which mode.  Manually changing from mode to mode, in my opinion, helps create understanding and helps concentration be on what it should be on, not a secondary consideration.

 

You can change this behavior as well, if you want.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi gene

I am referring to the internet and brouser mode. Sorry if I wasn’t very clear with what I was asking.

Regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 May 2021 14:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

It isn’t clear what you are asking about.  Are you asking about navigating using what in JAWS would be called the PC cursor?  You may be asking about the Internet and browse mode but that should be clarified. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 3:18 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi can someone explain to me what is the commands to toggle on or off the NVDA’s normal navigation mode please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: NVDA 2021.1 and Joseph Lee's add-ons: seven add-ons updated, important notices on some add-ons #addonrelease

 

Hi,

The only important thing you must do now is use latest Add-on Updater (21.05.1) so you can get add-on updates automatically once NVDA 2021.1 is released. Expect announcements like the one I sent last night in coming days as add-on authors update their add-ons to make them compatible with upcoming NVDA release.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 5:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1 and Joseph Lee's add-ons: seven add-ons updated, important notices on some add-ons #AddonRelease

 

I am slightly confused.  

I am not a beta tester.

Is there anything in the below  that I need to action now in respect of my current addons  or can I just wait until a more stable setup rolls out with the next official release of NVDA?

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 29 May 2021 08:41
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1 and Joseph Lee's add-ons: seven add-ons updated, important notices on some add-ons #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of stable channel updates to the following add-ons (compatible with NVDA 2021.1; beta 1 is out so far, manual installation required until further notice):

  • Control Usage Assistant:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/controlUsageAssistant/releases/download/21.06/controlUsageAssistant-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates (it’s been many months since a localization update took place).

 

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/download/21.06/enhancedTouchGestures-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

 

  • GoldWave:

Version: 21.06 (EOL: end of life from current maintainer)

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/goldWave/releases/download/21.06/goldwave-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

Note: GoldWave add-on 21.06 is the last version of the add-on from me.

 

  • ObjPad (out of band emergency update):

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/objPad/releases/download/21.06/objPad-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates (more than a year’s worth of updates, including new translations)

Note: I stopped maintaining ObjPad in January 2020; in consideration for compatibility changes, version 21.06 is an out of band emergency update. Future versions are not guaranteed.

 

  • Resource Monitor:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/resourceMonitor/releases/download/21.06/resourceMonitor-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes: localization updates.

 

  • StationPlaylist:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/releases/download/21.06/stationPlaylist-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes:

• NVDA will no longer do nothing or play error tones when trying to open various add-on dialogs such as encoder settings dialog. This is a critical fix required to support NVDA 2021.1.

• NVDA will no longer appear to do nothing or play error tones when trying to announce complete time (hours, minutes, seconds) from Studio (command unassigned). This affects NVDA 2021.1 or later.

 

  • Windows 10 app Essentials:

Version: 21.06

Download link: https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/download/21.06/wintenApps-21.06.nvda-addon

Changes:

• NVDA 2020.4 or later is required.

• The following UIA events were renamed to make them consistent with actual UI Automation event names: drag target enter to drop target enter, drag target leave to drop target leave, drag target dropped to drop target dropped.

• Modern keyboard: in build 21300 and later, with focus mode active from places such as web browsers, NVDA will no longer announce blank when using the arrow keys to navigate among emojis.

• Modern keyboard: when pressing Escape key to close emoji panel or clipboard history in build 21300 and later, focus will move back to the control you were working on before modern keyboard interface was opened. In some cases, Escape key should be pressed twice.

Note: WinTenApps 21.06 is the last version compatible with Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update/build 19041).

 

IMPORTANT NOTES (PLEASE READ):

  1. If you haven’t, install Add-on Updater 21.05.1 BEFORE applying these add-on updates.
  2. Until further notice, these add-on updates must be applied manually. I’ll send a follow-up notice when community add-ons website is updated to host new add-on updates.
  3. After installing these updates, if Add-on Updater prompts you to install what may appear to be older add-on releases, ignore it. If you are using NVDA 2021.1 beta 1 or recent alpha snapshots, add-on updates through Add-on Updater will fail because older add-on releases are not compatible.
  4. GoldWave: version 21.06 is the last version of this add-on under my maintenance.
  5. ObjPad: version 21.06 is an out of band update specifically designed for compatibility. Future releases are not guaranteed as it is no longer maintained by me.
  6. Control Usage Assistant, Enhanced Touch Gestures, StationPlaylist: version 21.06 is the second to last version of these add-ons under my maintenance. A localization focused release will be made toward end of summer, at which point I will end maintenance of these add-ons.
  7. Resource Monitor: version 21.06 is one of the last releases of these add-ons, with the last release under my maintenance scheduled for end of this year. I’m waiting for Windows Server 2022 to be finalized before recording the final build in this add-on.
  8. Windows 10 App Essentials: version 21.06 (codenamed “iron”) is the last version compatible with Windows 10 Version 2004 (May 2020 Update). The next major release (codenamed “cobalt”) will require Version 20H2 (October 2020 Update) or later. Also, for support policy, WinTenApps 21.06 requires NVDA 2020.4, 2021.1 prerelease (beta included), and alpha snapshots (Windows 10 App Essentials supports current/2021.1 (starting from beta), immediate past/2020.4, and development versions of NVDA). Those running WinTenApps add-on development snapshots are already running parts of “cobalt” and what could become early “nickel 1” releases (more on “nickel 1” codename later).

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA

 

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 01:58 PM, Louise Pfau wrote:
[Being forced to use Tab rather than the elements list.] That’s irritating when there are lots of links to navigate through.
-
Just remember you also have the option to use the browsing shortcut, K, to go from link to link to link when you do not care whether the link has been previously visited (V) or unvisited (U).

There's more than one way to limit oneself to specific elements.
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Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

Gene
 

It wasn’t a typing sound.  it was either a printing press ssound or a teletype  sound, I’m not sure..
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode
 

I know. I’m dating myself just a little bit lol! I remember that sound well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Years ago there was a typing sound whenever you heard news reporters.

 

 

On 5/28/2021 10:08 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually it is a typing sound. In the 1800s the telegraph used that sound, or at least somethingn close to it. So I know what that means.

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On 28 May 2021, at 8:27, Gene wrote:

If it were a typing sound, it might make more sense.  But it is something like a high pitched camera sound you might heare on a phone.  It doesn’t have any association with a mode and I find the sound to be grating and annoying. 

 

Also, for those learning NVDA, I don’t think sound should be used.  Repetition is important in learning and hearing actual words would help those learning both become more aware of the terms and perhaps be more aware of when they are in which mode. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

The typing sound means focused mode, the bop noise means browse mode, it makes sense actually.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 7:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

NVDA space toggles browse mode off and on.  But if you are using sound for the notification, I don’t know which sound means what and I don’t like using sounds instead of speech in such ways.  I have NVDA set to say browse mode when it is on and focus mode when it is off.  If you want to change from sound to speech, I’ll explain how to do it. 

 

Also, by default, NVDA automatically changes from Browse Mode to focus mode and back again depending on what structures you move to in a web page and how you move.

 

I am very much against this being default behavior.  I think it is confusing to new students of NVDA and causes them to concentrate on learning when the automatic changes occur when what they should be concentrating on is when to use which mode.  Manually changing from mode to mode, in my opinion, helps create understanding and helps concentration be on what it should be on, not a secondary consideration.

 

You can change this behavior as well, if you want.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi gene

I am referring to the internet and brouser mode. Sorry if I wasn’t very clear with what I was asking.

Regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 May 2021 14:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

It isn’t clear what you are asking about.  Are you asking about navigating using what in JAWS would be called the PC cursor?  You may be asking about the Internet and browse mode but that should be clarified. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: anthony borg

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 3:18 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi can someone explain to me what is the commands to toggle on or off the NVDA’s normal navigation mode please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 06:41 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
I am generally in favor of earcons, as long as they are optional.
-
Same here.  I also don't expect them to be "intuitive sounds," per se, just something that occurs when a specific state is transitioned into, item is landed on, or similar.
 
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Re: Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA

Gene
 

Are you saying you know the link you are looking for?  If so, you can use the same find command you use when browsing since you are using browse mode when reading e-mail.  or I should say, whhen I think its very likely you are using browse mode to read e-mail. 
 
After you get to the link, try shift tabbing once or twice then tabbing once or twice to the link.  let us know if that method works well.  there are some instances when browse mode doesn’t line up properly with where you are on the underlying page and when you tab, you are nowhere near the link even if browse mode is on it.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Difficulty accessing links in confidential E-mails with NVDA
 
I also get the error message when I use the “Elements list” dialog, but the error doesn’t happen when I use TAB to navigate to the link.  That’s irritating when there are lots of links to navigate through.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: NVDA's normal navigation mode

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know. I’m dating myself just a little bit lol! I remember that sound well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Years ago there was a typing sound whenever you heard news reporters.

 

 

On 5/28/2021 10:08 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually it is a typing sound. In the 1800s the telegraph used that sound, or at least somethingn close to it. So I know what that means.

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On 28 May 2021, at 8:27, Gene wrote:

If it were a typing sound, it might make more sense.  But it is something like a high pitched camera sound you might heare on a phone.  It doesn’t have any association with a mode and I find the sound to be grating and annoying. 

 

Also, for those learning NVDA, I don’t think sound should be used.  Repetition is important in learning and hearing actual words would help those learning both become more aware of the terms and perhaps be more aware of when they are in which mode. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

The typing sound means focused mode, the bop noise means browse mode, it makes sense actually.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 7:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

NVDA space toggles browse mode off and on.  But if you are using sound for the notification, I don’t know which sound means what and I don’t like using sounds instead of speech in such ways.  I have NVDA set to say browse mode when it is on and focus mode when it is off.  If you want to change from sound to speech, I’ll explain how to do it. 

 

Also, by default, NVDA automatically changes from Browse Mode to focus mode and back again depending on what structures you move to in a web page and how you move.

 

I am very much against this being default behavior.  I think it is confusing to new students of NVDA and causes them to concentrate on learning when the automatic changes occur when what they should be concentrating on is when to use which mode.  Manually changing from mode to mode, in my opinion, helps create understanding and helps concentration be on what it should be on, not a secondary consideration.

 

You can change this behavior as well, if you want.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 9:29 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi gene

I am referring to the internet and brouser mode. Sorry if I wasn’t very clear with what I was asking.

Regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 May 2021 14:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

It isn’t clear what you are asking about.  Are you asking about navigating using what in JAWS would be called the PC cursor?  You may be asking about the Internet and browse mode but that should be clarified. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 3:18 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA's normal navigation mode

 

Hi can someone explain to me what is the commands to toggle on or off the NVDA’s normal navigation mode please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

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