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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  If you go to settings in tools and tab through you will find a button to have Firefox automatically update or you can tab once more and you have a second option to set firefox let you manually check for updates.  When you said you could not update I went into Firefox and was able to go right there.  It has been moved out of options and placed in settings.  In going through settings, it's just like options and settings was put in it's place.  I have never let firefox update automatically for me. 

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:20 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I updated to firefox 89.0 for the 64 bit version of the program.  I'm running NVDA 2020.4 and haven't had any problems.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 11:31 AM, Gene wrote:
Set the browser to notify you when updates are available but not to automatically update.  Perhaps updates aren’t sent to all users simultaneously but since you may be updated at any time, you may want to disconnect from the Internet before you run Firefox and make this change.  Also, as I’ve said, to keep safe with current security updates, you can use the ESR version.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
 
So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

Absolutely will do Mark. Expect an email shortly. However, I'm still interested in what the NVDA team has to say on this regarding their use of eSpeak. No disrespect to your project, but eSpeak is still good, and I don't mind robotic voices, as many blind people will tell you. If a response from them is not forthcoming I may contact them directly.

Best,
Daniel


Re: Firefox suddenly stopped reading pages.

Jackie
 

Please reference bug #1714212 on bugzilla.org & report your
configuration, etc. We're working w/James Teh right now to try to
resolve this, but the problem is that it doesn't happen on all
systems. I reported this yesterday.

On 6/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
Hi all.


I was reading an article on CNN I think, then I closed Firefox. I opened
it again to search for something, and now Firefox won't read any pages,
everything says "unknown", e.g. tabbing, and the arrows are silent. I've
restarted my machine, restarted NVDA with addons disabled, and neither
helped. Edge reads just fine.


I'm running the latest Windows update, installed over a week ago so it's
not that, latest stable NVDA, 2020.4, and latest Firefox, but though it
reads most other things that are part of the browser, e.g. menus and the
like, it doesn't want to read the "about Firefox" dialogue, so I don't
know what version of that I'm running. I did try checking for updates
though and there were none. Did a full scan with Windows Defender and
turned up nothing.


If anybody has any ideas, I'd really appreciate them. I have no idea why
this would happen all of a sudden with nothing having been updated or
something obvious like that.






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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

This was done in error; disregard.


locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just had fire fox update to version 89 no problems and is a 64 bit version.


The only thing was at first it gave me options  of which I said not now. I can not remember if I had a home page set  which put me up near some shortcuts on the browser but then went in and set the home page and all is good.

Even without setting the home page if I typed in a web address in the location bar it loaded up the page.

It is not my default browser I usually use google or edge etc.


Gene nz

On 4/06/2021 9:23 am, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Good Afternoon:  About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version.  They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine.  This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:19 PM, Louder Pages wrote:
Daniel,

Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with several languages.  RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.

https://github.com/RHVoice

It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than e-speak.

We here at https://louderpages.org  are just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.  

Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think we could use your help in future projects.  We use a mix of U.K. and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from those Aussie punctuation marks. :)

I hope you will get in touch -  inq@...

Kind regards, Mark


locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Arlene
 

No kidding! Apple is solid and there are no other operating systems like there are with windows. I don’t use it but I do know hey manage to work out their bugs.  Windows is windows. They run the same but each computer is different and so is the softwhere. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: June 3, 2021 10:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software &

hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to

explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage

to blow stuff up nonetheless.

 

On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> Which means nothing.  the problem may not affect most or the majority of

> users.  That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

> Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers

> because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the

> purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some

> systems.

> Gene

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Smart

> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

> that's three of us now with no problems.

> On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:

>> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so

>> ever.

>> 

>> 

>> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:

>>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll

>>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,

>>> that does not appear to be the problem.

>>> 

>>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I

>>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,

>>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

>>> 

>>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

>>>> Hi Group,

>>>> 

>>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box

>>>> concerning

>>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,

>>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration

>>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.

>>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just

>>>> how this is done.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:

>>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

>>>>> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

>>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

>>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

>>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

>>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

>>>>> it.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

>>>>> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

>>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

>>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

>>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

>>>>> report that & be believable?

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>>>>>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>>>>>> way I

>>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>>>>>    Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I

>>>>>>> uninstalled and

>>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new

>>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>>>>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the

>>>>>>> email.

>>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>>>>>> cbsnews.com,

>>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab

>>>>>>> around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it

>>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown

>>>>>>> but am

>>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help

>>>>>>> section,

>>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot

>>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on

>>>>>>> here?

>>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>>>>>> Cox.com

>>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>>>>>> windows10

>>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have

>>>>>>> everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the

>>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>>>>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In

>>>>>>> fact I

>>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on

>>>>>>> here? Thank you.

>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version.  They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine.  This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.

Dave

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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Firefox suddenly stopped reading pages.

John Isige
 

Hi all.


I was reading an article on CNN I think, then I closed Firefox. I opened it again to search for something, and now Firefox won't read any pages, everything says "unknown", e.g. tabbing, and the arrows are silent. I've restarted my machine, restarted NVDA with addons disabled, and neither helped. Edge reads just fine.


I'm running the latest Windows update, installed over a week ago so it's not that, latest stable NVDA, 2020.4, and latest Firefox, but though it reads most other things that are part of the browser, e.g. menus and the like, it doesn't want to read the "about Firefox" dialogue, so I don't know what version of that I'm running. I did try checking for updates though and there were none. Did a full scan with Windows Defender and turned up nothing.


If anybody has any ideas, I'd really appreciate them. I have no idea why this would happen all of a sudden with nothing having been updated or something obvious like that.


locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

Thats true.

In fact I'd go so far as to say, the older your box the easier it may be.

Older boxes don't rely on manufacturer drivers because they are to old.

If old enough they may not even rely on generic drivers.

They may rely on windows update drivers which while old and crappy still work.

Or they may not have any need for extras and work as is.

Where it can become an issues is with the newer systems that rely on as many avenues as they can to update.

This is good, you get the latest and greatest but you can also have issues.

Being the local admin here, I like to update before someone else does and see.

If it really screws up, I'll just reformat and move on.

I have backups and all data is on another drive so if it falls over, I won't lose much.

I have had 2 other systems here, both constantly used by their users.

And I will not be popular if  documents and stuff my dad uses can't be used because of a broken install.


Saying that, the modern systems actually don't give much of an issue generally unless you are unlucky  or microsoft gives you a semi cooked fruitcake which sadly happens a lot more often than is healthy but still we muddle through.

In this reguard amd because they do gaming do update their display constantly as well as other stuff so if you need the power and certainty and stability I'd go with those.

You can get instability but you know that those will be fixed within the next month.

On 4/06/2021 5:39 am, Jackie wrote:
This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software &
hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to
explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage
to blow stuff up nonetheless.

On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Which means nothing. the problem may not affect most or the majority of
users. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers
because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the
purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some
systems.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
ever.


On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.

Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.


On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.

Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?

On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
way I
can say no to the update. thanks.

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

tim
 

you got part of it right. In beta testing you look for constant issues that come up. That means a bug. If it is only a problem on a few machines. Then it is a problem with the configurations of those machines and not the software.

Just like when NVDA was new. it had problems with amd chips and not intell. The problem was with the chips configurations on how they handled software not with NVDA.



On 6/3/2021 1:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Which means nothing.  the problem may not affect most or the majority of users.  That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. 
 
Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some systems.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
 
that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
> ever.
>
>
> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
>> that does not appear to be the problem.
>>
>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
>>
>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
>>> concerning
>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,
>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
>>> how this is done.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
>>>> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
>>>> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
>>>> report that & be believable?
>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
>>>>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
>>>>> way I
>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>>>>    Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
>>>>>> uninstalled and
>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
>>>>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
>>>>>> cbsnews.com,
>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
>>>>>> around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
>>>>>> but am
>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
>>>>>> section,
>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
>>>>>> here?
>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
>>>>>> Cox.com
>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
>>>>>> windows10
>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
>>>>>> everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>>>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
>>>>>> fact I
>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
>>>>>> here? Thank you.
>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>





locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Chris Smart
 

I did notice something strange with JFW, and I only mention it here in case it has some bearing on the NVDA situation.


When I run Firefox 89, I have to ALT+Tab away and then back to it, or else Jaws doesn't read anything at all.

On 2021-06-03 4:17 p.m., tim wrote:
Just did the update with no problems. I did see a lot of new settings in setting that could cause issues with screen readers but no big ones.

Everything seems to work fine even the site given for problem.

Used NVDA, JFW, and narrator with no problems.

On 6/3/2021 12:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so ever.


On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.

Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.


On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.

Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?

On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a way I
can say no to the update. thanks.

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
   Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

tim
 

Just did the update with no problems. I did see a lot of new settings in setting that could cause issues with screen readers but no big ones.

Everything seems to work fine even the site given for problem.

Used NVDA, JFW, and narrator with no problems.

On 6/3/2021 12:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so ever.


On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.

Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.


On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.

Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?

On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a way I
can say no to the update. thanks.

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
   Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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Re: CCBE 更新

Mallard
 

Hello Doupi,


Our humans are just crazy!


You and I should set up a conversation via Dogsapp one of these days, to see what can be done about them...


Woof!

Ozzie

On 02/06/2021 16:44, Rui Fontes wrote:
Ciao!


Not yet, but with the Translate add-on, I have got the message...


Rui and Doupi


Às 15:15 de 02/06/2021, Mallard escreveu:
Wy, rui, don't you know Chinese? You disappoint me!!!!!! ROFL... Joking, of course!


Stay safe, my friend!

Ciao,

Ollie




On 02/06/2021 16:03, Rui Fontes wrote:
Please, can you write in english?


Rui Fontes


Às 14:44 de 02/06/2021, 高生旺 escreveu:
朋友問我記事本有沒有尋找空白行的功能?
我說沒有,至少目前還沒有。

我想到之前寫的 CCBE NVDA附加元件就是用來加強記事本的功能,
於是我寫出這個功能:
只要按 NVDA+空白鍵就能往下尋找空白行,
按 SHIFT+NVDA+空白鍵就是往上尋找。

還有需要什麼功能可以再提出來,我來想辦法順便練功。
http://nvda.gaga.tw













Re: What's the situation with Seika Braille drivers?

Mallard
 

Thanks for this news, Joseph!

Stay well,

Ollie

On 03/06/2021 10:04, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

In fact, NV Access folks have committed many changes to Seika support pull request within the last few hours, so I expect it will be (finally) part of NVDA soon (once and for all).

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. This is Susan. Well turns out I can use it on my windows10 home addition. On my end I backed up my bookmarks, and created a new profile, thinking it might work, so I loaded up Firefox and it did not work, so I did a google search to find fire fox 88.0.1, so I did download from majorgeeks.com and I did install that. After that I went to a few websites just to test it out and it worked. Then later on that day I tested it again by going to more sites, closed it out, then started up again, and it worked. Then my thought was, okay since I got that working how about if I just upgrade from there to the new version and I did it and it worked. I did the same thing just to see if everything was working and yes, it did. So now I can use the new fire fox with no problems on my windows10 home machine. In fact I just read this digest to check for accessibility settings in the about:config dialog the one where it mentions it is set to zero and it is on my end. I got out of there and all is well. So just thought I would report back and let everyone know what I did on my windows10 home machine. Thank you.
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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Jackie
 

This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software &
hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to
explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage
to blow stuff up nonetheless.

On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Which means nothing. the problem may not affect most or the majority of
users. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers
because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the
purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some
systems.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
ever.


On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.

Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.


On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.

Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?

On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
way I
can say no to the update. thanks.

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Gene
 

Which means nothing.  the problem may not affect most or the majority of users.  That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. 
 
Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some systems.
 
Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
 
that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
> ever.
>
>
> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
>> that does not appear to be the problem.
>>
>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
>>
>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
>>> concerning
>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,
>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
>>> how this is done.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
>>>> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
>>>> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
>>>> report that & be believable?
>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
>>>>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
>>>>> way I
>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>>>>    Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
>>>>>> uninstalled and
>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
>>>>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
>>>>>> cbsnews.com,
>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
>>>>>> around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
>>>>>> but am
>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
>>>>>> section,
>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
>>>>>> here?
>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
>>>>>> Cox.com
>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
>>>>>> windows10
>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
>>>>>> everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>>>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
>>>>>> fact I
>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
>>>>>> here? Thank you.
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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Jackie
 

Jamie couldn't reproduce it on any of his systems. A gentleman name
Mike Burton had some systems that were affected, others not.

On 6/3/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
that's three of us now with no problems.



On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
ever.


On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.

Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.


On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.

Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?

On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
way I
can say no to the update. thanks.

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
   Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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