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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)
Hi Robert, You are looking for the RHVoice NVDA add-on, right? Try this page. https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Binaries.mdIt also has links to the English voices, which in my opinion are not as good as other languages . The male voice, Alan is best I think, although it is a Scottish, not US accent. We here at Louder Pages collaborate closely with RH Voice and would like to make an improved English voice. But, so many more deserving languages to cover! LOL - Mark
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)
Hi,
Looking at the link mentioned below however could not find the RH
voices addons files for nvda, and for English voice. I appreciate
if you could share the direct link instead. Thanks.
Kind regards,
Robert
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/3/2021 9:00 AM, Louder Pages
wrote:
Daniel,
Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with
several languages. RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.
https://github.com/RHVoice
It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than
e-speak.
We here at https://louderpages.org are
just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government
of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.
Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think
we could use your help in future projects. We use a mix of U.K.
and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from
those Aussie punctuation marks. :)
I hope you will get in touch - inq@...
Kind regards, Mark
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NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages
As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group. There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages. I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not. I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows. --------
NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)
NOTE: All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below. Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.
These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:
nvda-fr / nvda-fr
Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20
nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA
Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18
NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu
Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20
nvdadutch / NVDADutch
Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15
nvda-tw
這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16
The following exist, but currently have very few members:
NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL
Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20
nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム（管理者からのお知らせ専用）
NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16
nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese
NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20
nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste
Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19
nvda-ar / NVDA العربي
تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17
nvdacn / nvda中文小组
hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17
nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen
Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17
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Admin's Note: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
#adminnotice
Hello,
I am requesting that this topic come to a close immediately, and will be locking the thread. The reasons are as follows: - There have been over 70 messages to this thread, and very early on, it was established that the issues are not related to NVDA. This in itself makes this thread off-topic.
- This issue so far is only impacting two users so far as I can tell, and this could be for any number of reasons, also not related to NVDA.
- Discussing what we like and don't like about a program or application is off-topic and not related to NVDA unless we are discussing something NVDA-specific which impacts the use of an application.
- 70 messages on any thread seems excessive to me, and while there isn't a rule in place about the number of messages permitted in a thread, we aren't advancing any further at this point. A bug has been filed with Mozilla, the issue is not related to NVDA, end of story.
Best,
Nimer Jaber, List Owner
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:36 PM Dave Grossoehme < dave@...> wrote:
Good Afternoon: This change makes it easier for the general
user. Considering most applications are controlled by a settings
label, not options label. You look in Windows, a cell phone or
many other applications you will see the word settings, not
options. It's more understandable to the general public.
Dave
On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:
The setting is part of the general section, so
it should be reachable without any extra steps.
I agree that these changes sometimes seem
unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like
this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of
Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on
mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform,
this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays.
Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The
sections of various headings you see are controlled by a
list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you
want, and the headings with options will appear.
You can control updates. You may have to
turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or
settings dialog where you select the category you will
work with.
Previously, the update selection was
found in options. In a change in the current version,
there is no more options. Now, its settings. Its in
the tools folder still but the name was changed. Just
one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse
people and require that all support documentation that
mentioned options be rewritten. Do program developers
ever consider what amount of useless and needless work
some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on
people?
I’m not singling out Firefox developers
but this is an example of how a change in one word can
cause a great deal of work.
There is no more updates section as a
separate section in settings. it is now in the
general settings, which is the one you work with by
default when you open settings. Tab and tab and tab
and you will eventually get to a series of radio
buttons for determining update behavior.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Firefox automatically updates itself,
Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore
From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
So, how long before we all get v.89
unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be
caught unawares before this happens.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well
as the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that
includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.
On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...>
wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who
actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is
experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant
underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating
w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator &
Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA,
& I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox
when choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile
& start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose
a profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If
I load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go
figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...>
wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this
problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update.
thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward
wrote:
>>> Hello. I am experiencing
the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran
the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing
and did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the
scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the
one I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website
just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to
firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the
page think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown,
am tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what
is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to
run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode
everything is fine when am on a website so what is
going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any
kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired
connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and
both the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date
and are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have
to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home
machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble
shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that
would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing
there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
>>>
____________________________________________________________
>>> Sponsored by
>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=
>>> rss_taglines_more
>>>
>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share
Your Internet on June 8
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du
>>> c1
>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du
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>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du
>>> c3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Good Afternoon: This change makes it easier for the general
user. Considering most applications are controlled by a settings
label, not options label. You look in Windows, a cell phone or
many other applications you will see the word settings, not
options. It's more understandable to the general public.
Dave
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:
The setting is part of the general section, so
it should be reachable without any extra steps.
I agree that these changes sometimes seem
unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like
this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of
Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on
mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform,
this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays.
Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The
sections of various headings you see are controlled by a
list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you
want, and the headings with options will appear.
You can control updates. You may have to
turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or
settings dialog where you select the category you will
work with.
Previously, the update selection was
found in options. In a change in the current version,
there is no more options. Now, its settings. Its in
the tools folder still but the name was changed. Just
one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse
people and require that all support documentation that
mentioned options be rewritten. Do program developers
ever consider what amount of useless and needless work
some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on
people?
I’m not singling out Firefox developers
but this is an example of how a change in one word can
cause a great deal of work.
There is no more updates section as a
separate section in settings. it is now in the
general settings, which is the one you work with by
default when you open settings. Tab and tab and tab
and you will eventually get to a series of radio
buttons for determining update behavior.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Firefox automatically updates itself,
Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore
From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
So, how long before we all get v.89
unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be
caught unawares before this happens.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well
as the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that
includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.
On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...>
wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who
actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is
experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant
underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating
w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator &
Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA,
& I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox
when choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile
& start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose
a profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If
I load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go
figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...>
wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this
problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update.
thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward
wrote:
>>> Hello. I am experiencing
the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran
the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing
and did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the
scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the
one I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website
just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to
firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the
page think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown,
am tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what
is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to
run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode
everything is fine when am on a website so what is
going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any
kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired
connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and
both the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date
and are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have
to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home
machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble
shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that
would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing
there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
>>>
____________________________________________________________
>>> Sponsored by
>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=
>>> rss_taglines_more
>>>
>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share
Your Internet on June 8
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du
>>> c1
>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du
>>> c2 Florida Man Cites 'Stand
Your Ground' in Iguana Killing
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du
>>> c3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Good Afternoon: If you go to settings in tools and tab through
you will find a button to have Firefox automatically update or you
can tab once more and you have a second option to set firefox let
you manually check for updates. When you said you could not
update I went into Firefox and was able to go right there. It has
been moved out of options and placed in settings. In going
through settings, it's just like options and settings was put in
it's place. I have never let firefox update automatically for
me.
Dave
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/2/2021 12:20 PM, Chris via
groups.io wrote:
Firefox automatically updates itself,
Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore
From:
JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89,
can no longer use w/NVDA
So, how long before we all get v.89 unless
we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares
before this happens.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as
the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that
includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.
On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride
<abletec@...> wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who
actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is
experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant
underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating w/caution.
I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator &
Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA,
& I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox when
choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile
& start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose a
profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If I
load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go
figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares
<bmijares33@...> wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this
problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update.
thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward
wrote:
>>> Hello. I am experiencing the
same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran
the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing and
did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the
scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the one
I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website
just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to
firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the page
think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am
tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what
is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to
run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode
everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
here?
>>> I am not on a network of any
kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired
connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both
the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date and
are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have
to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home
machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble
shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that
would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing
there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
>>>
____________________________________________________________
>>> Sponsored by
>>>
https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=
>>> rss_taglines_more
>>>
>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share Your
Internet on June 8
>>>
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du
>>> c1
>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More
>>>
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du
>>> c2 Florida Man Cites 'Stand
Your Ground' in Iguana Killing
>>>
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du
>>> c3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Good Afternoon: I updated to firefox 89.0 for the 64 bit version
of the program. I'm running NVDA 2020.4 and haven't had any
problems.
Dave
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/2/2021 11:31 AM, Gene wrote:
Set the browser to notify you when updates are available
but not to automatically update. Perhaps updates aren’t
sent to all users simultaneously but since you may be
updated at any time, you may want to disconnect from the
Internet before you run Firefox and make this change. Also,
as I’ve said, to keep safe with current security updates,
you can use the ESR version.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
So, how long before we all
get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to
be caught unawares before this happens.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no
longer use w/NVDA
I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable
version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator
& Jaws also.
On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started
this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this,
& given that
> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its
interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not
comment any
> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work
w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize
for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a
profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o
asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the
profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same
profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the
firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...>
wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like
to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>> Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with
NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm
registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system
file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the scan everything was
fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now
writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you
an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and
getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads,
whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around
again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but
when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble
shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when
am on a website so what is going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your
typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do
have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine
and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date and are running 64
bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything
firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not
figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the
windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such
luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone
tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
>>>
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)
Absolutely will do Mark. Expect an email shortly. However, I'm still interested in what the NVDA team has to say on this regarding their use of eSpeak. No disrespect to your project, but eSpeak is still good, and I don't mind robotic voices, as many blind people will tell you. If a response from them is not forthcoming I may contact them directly.
Best,
Daniel
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Re: Firefox suddenly stopped reading pages.
Please reference bug #1714212 on bugzilla.org & report your
configuration, etc. We're working w/James Teh right now to try to
resolve this, but the problem is that it doesn't happen on all
systems. I reported this yesterday.
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On 6/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote: Hi all.
I was reading an article on CNN I think, then I closed Firefox. I opened
it again to search for something, and now Firefox won't read any pages,
everything says "unknown", e.g. tabbing, and the arrows are silent. I've
restarted my machine, restarted NVDA with addons disabled, and neither
helped. Edge reads just fine.
I'm running the latest Windows update, installed over a week ago so it's
not that, latest stable NVDA, 2020.4, and latest Firefox, but though it
reads most other things that are part of the browser, e.g. menus and the
like, it doesn't want to read the "about Firefox" dialogue, so I don't
know what version of that I'm running. I did try checking for updates
though and there were none. Did a full scan with Windows Defender and
turned up nothing.
If anybody has any ideas, I'd really appreciate them. I have no idea why
this would happen all of a sudden with nothing having been updated or
something obvious like that.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)
This was done in error; disregard.
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Hi
Just had fire fox update to version 89 no problems and is a 64 bit version.
The only thing was at first it gave me options of which I said not now. I can not remember if I had a home page set which put me up near some shortcuts on the browser but then went in and set the home page and all is good.
Even without setting the home page if I typed in a web address in the location bar it loaded up the page.
It is not my default browser I usually use google or edge etc.
Gene nz
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On 4/06/2021 9:23 am, Dave Grossoehme wrote: Good Afternoon: About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version. They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine. This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.
Dave
On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:19 PM, Louder Pages wrote:
Daniel,
Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with several languages. RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.
https://github.com/RHVoice
It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than e-speak.
We here at https://louderpages.org are just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.
Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think we could use your help in future projects. We use a mix of U.K. and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from those Aussie punctuation marks. :)
I hope you will get in touch - inq@...
Kind regards, Mark
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
No kidding! Apple is solid and there are no other operating systems like there are with windows. I don’t use it but I do know hey manage to work out their bugs. Windows is windows. They run the same but each computer is different and so is the softwhere. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: JackieSent: June 3, 2021 10:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software & hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage to blow stuff up nonetheless. On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > Which means nothing. the problem may not affect most or the majority of > users. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. > > Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers > because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the > purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some > systems. > > Gene > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Smart > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA > > that's three of us now with no problems. > > > > On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote: >> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so >> ever. >> >> >> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following: >>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll >>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said, >>> that does not appear to be the problem. >>> >>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I >>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his, >>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions. >>> >>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote: >>>> Hi Group, >>>> >>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box >>>> concerning >>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true, >>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration >>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance. >>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just >>>> how this is done. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote: >>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given >>>>> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that >>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd >>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any >>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I >>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time, >>>>> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows >>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list >>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile >>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one >>>>> report that & be believable? >>>>> >>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote: >>>>>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a >>>>>> way I >>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote: >>>>>>> Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I >>>>>>> uninstalled and >>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new >>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find >>>>>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 >>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the >>>>>>> email. >>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example >>>>>>> cbsnews.com, >>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab >>>>>>> around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it >>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown >>>>>>> but am >>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help >>>>>>> section, >>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot >>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on >>>>>>> here? >>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from >>>>>>> Cox.com >>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine >>>>>>> windows10 >>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have >>>>>>> everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the >>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on >>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to >>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I >>>>>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In >>>>>>> fact I >>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on >>>>>>> here? 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Good Afternoon: About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version. They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine. This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.
Dave
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On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote: Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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Firefox suddenly stopped reading pages.
Hi all.
I was reading an article on CNN I think, then I closed Firefox. I opened it again to search for something, and now Firefox won't read any pages, everything says "unknown", e.g. tabbing, and the arrows are silent. I've restarted my machine, restarted NVDA with addons disabled, and neither helped. Edge reads just fine.
I'm running the latest Windows update, installed over a week ago so it's not that, latest stable NVDA, 2020.4, and latest Firefox, but though it reads most other things that are part of the browser, e.g. menus and the like, it doesn't want to read the "about Firefox" dialogue, so I don't know what version of that I'm running. I did try checking for updates though and there were none. Did a full scan with Windows Defender and turned up nothing.
If anybody has any ideas, I'd really appreciate them. I have no idea why this would happen all of a sudden with nothing having been updated or something obvious like that.
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Thats true.
In fact I'd go so far as to say, the older your box the easier it may be.
Older boxes don't rely on manufacturer drivers because they are to old.
If old enough they may not even rely on generic drivers.
They may rely on windows update drivers which while old and crappy still work.
Or they may not have any need for extras and work as is.
Where it can become an issues is with the newer systems that rely on as many avenues as they can to update.
This is good, you get the latest and greatest but you can also have issues.
Being the local admin here, I like to update before someone else does and see.
If it really screws up, I'll just reformat and move on.
I have backups and all data is on another drive so if it falls over, I won't lose much.
I have had 2 other systems here, both constantly used by their users.
And I will not be popular if documents and stuff my dad uses can't be used because of a broken install.
Saying that, the modern systems actually don't give much of an issue generally unless you are unlucky or microsoft gives you a semi cooked fruitcake which sadly happens a lot more often than is healthy but still we muddle through.
In this reguard amd because they do gaming do update their display constantly as well as other stuff so if you need the power and certainty and stability I'd go with those.
You can get instability but you know that those will be fixed within the next month.
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On 4/06/2021 5:39 am, Jackie wrote: This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software &
hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to
explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage
to blow stuff up nonetheless.
On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Which means nothing. the problem may not affect most or the majority of
users. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers
because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the
purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some
systems.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
that's three of us now with no problems.
On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so
ever.
On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.
Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,
I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box
concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.
On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.
Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?
On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
way I
can say no to the update. thanks.
On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I
uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the
email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown
but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help
section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on
here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In
fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
you got part of it right. In beta testing you look for constant
issues that come up. That means a bug. If it is only a problem on
a few machines. Then it is a problem with the configurations of
those machines and not the software.
Just like when NVDA was new. it had problems with amd chips and
not intell. The problem was with the chips configurations on how
they handled software not with NVDA.
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On 6/3/2021 1:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Which means nothing. the problem may not affect most or
the majority of users. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of
different computers because a program that works well on
most machines may not on some and the purpose of beta
testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some
systems.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to
version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
that's three of us now with
no problems.
On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen
any issue what so
> ever.
>
>
> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the
following:
>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the
button to tell them you'll
>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility.
Having thus said,
>> that does not appear to be the problem.
>>
>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his
possession, but he & I
>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time,
Friday morning his,
>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
>>
>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...>
wrote:
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is
having the box
>>> concerning
>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by
default. If this is true,
>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort
involving the configuration
>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use
sighted assistance.
>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the
information concerning just
>>> how this is done.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually
started this thread. Given
>>>> that at least 1 other individual is
experiencing this, & given that
>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying
changes to its interface, I'd
>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I
guess I'll not comment any
>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws
don't work w/it either, so I
>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I
apologize for posting regarding
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when
choosing a profile every time,
>>>> it works. If I select any profile &
start it up w/o asking, it blows
>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a
profile from the profile list
>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load
the same profile
>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure!
How the firetruck does one
>>>> report that & be believable?
>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares
<bmijares33@...> wrote:
>>>>> Are you the only one having this
problem? I'd like to know, that a
>>>>> way I
>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>>>> Hello. I am experiencing the
same thing with NVDA, I
>>>>>> uninstalled and
>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm
registration tool, created a new
>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a
system file check, did not find
>>>>>> anything. According to the scan
everything was fixed on my windows10
>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am
on right now writing out the
>>>>>> email.
>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just
to give you an example
>>>>>> cbsnews.com,
>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting
unknown message whenever I tab
>>>>>> around the page think it loads,
whenever I press the arrow keys it
>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around
again it comes up with unknown
>>>>>> but am
>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when
I am going in to the help
>>>>>> section,
>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot
mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on
a website so what is going on
>>>>>> here?
>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind
just your typical modem from
>>>>>> Cox.com
>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I
do have a second machine
>>>>>> windows10
>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home
machine and the pro machine have
>>>>>> everything up to date and are
running 64 bit, it is weird on the
>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do
anything firefox works great on
>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I
can not figure out why I have to
>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot
mode on the windows home machine. I
>>>>>> even did a reset think that would
help, no such luck there. In
>>>>>> fact I
>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could
someone tell us what is going on
>>>>>> here? Thank you.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee
on a banana boat!"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Chris Smart
I did notice something strange with JFW, and I only mention it here in case it has some bearing on the NVDA situation.
When I run Firefox 89, I have to ALT+Tab away and then back to it, or else Jaws doesn't read anything at all.
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On 2021-06-03 4:17 p.m., tim wrote: Just did the update with no problems. I did see a lot of new settings in setting that could cause issues with screen readers but no big ones.
Everything seems to work fine even the site given for problem.
Used NVDA, JFW, and narrator with no problems.
On 6/3/2021 12:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
that's three of us now with no problems.
On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so ever.
On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.
Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,
I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.
On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.
Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?
On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a way I
can say no to the update. thanks.
On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
Just did the update with no problems. I did see a lot of new settings in setting that could cause issues with screen readers but no big ones.
Everything seems to work fine even the site given for problem.
Used NVDA, JFW, and narrator with no problems.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 6/3/2021 12:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote: that's three of us now with no problems.
On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:
um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so ever.
On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:
press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll
accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,
that does not appear to be the problem.
Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I
will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,
to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.
On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,
I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box concerning
blocking accessibility checked checked by default. If this is true,
there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration
editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.
Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just
how this is done.
On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
it.
Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
report that & be believable?
On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@gmail.com> wrote:
Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a way I
can say no to the update. thanks.
On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and
reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new
profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com,
I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab
around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it
says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am
not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section,
I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot
mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com
using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10
pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have
everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the
windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I
did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on
here? Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
Sponsored by
https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_taglines_more
Amazon Has Plans to Share Your Internet on June 8
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01duc1
Trump's Blog Page Is No More
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01duc2
Florida Man Cites 'Stand Your Ground' in Iguana Killing
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01duc3
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hello Doupi,
Our humans are just crazy!
You and I should set up a conversation via Dogsapp one of these days, to see what can be done about them...
Woof!
Ozzie
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On 02/06/2021 16:44, Rui Fontes wrote: Ciao!
Not yet, but with the Translate add-on, I have got the message...
Rui and Doupi
Às 15:15 de 02/06/2021, Mallard escreveu:
Wy, rui, don't you know Chinese? You disappoint me!!!!!! ROFL... Joking, of course!
Stay safe, my friend!
Ciao,
Ollie
On 02/06/2021 16:03, Rui Fontes wrote:
Please, can you write in english?
Rui Fontes
Às 14:44 de 02/06/2021, 高生旺 escreveu:
朋友問我記事本有沒有尋找空白行的功能？
我說沒有，至少目前還沒有。
我想到之前寫的 CCBE NVDA附加元件就是用來加強記事本的功能，
於是我寫出這個功能：
只要按 NVDA+空白鍵就能往下尋找空白行，
按 SHIFT+NVDA+空白鍵就是往上尋找。
還有需要什麼功能可以再提出來，我來想辦法順便練功。
http://nvda.gaga.tw
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