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Re: Correcting speech pattern

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

Unfortunately, it is not a feature of nvda but one specific to the engine/voice, thus there is no simple way to avoid that kind of things altogether.
It should be possible to use the dictionary to replace them one by one, maybe even to find one regexp to fit them all, but to be honest that seems a lot of work for a limited improvement.

-- Patrick

Le 04/06/2021 à 14:49, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :
Hi,
How can I stop NVDA from saying names of American states instead of letter combinations such as “Florid” for fl10, or “Nevada” for “NV-Access”?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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Re: Accessible SQL Clients

Russell James
 

Hi Luke

I don't know if you're a vs code user but it should be possible if you

I don't know the details of the accessibility with this approach but I would assume since most of the Microsoft apps are accessible to nvda it should be a good option

Quickstart: Use Visual Studio Code to connect and query
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-sql/database/connect-query-vscode

I would be interested in learning which approach you find the most productive and accessible :-)

Russ


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 7:40 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Hello

Does anyone know of any NVDA accessible SQL clients? Specifically for
PostGreSQL, MySQL, or MariaDB?

I usually do database work from the Linux shell (actual or WSL), but a
recent discussion on another list has made me wonder if there are any
accessible GUI applications for this which anyone can point to.

There are many out there, and before I started downloading them randomly
and testing, I thought I would ask.

Luke







Correcting speech pattern

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

How can I stop NVDA from saying names of American states instead of letter combinations such as “Florid” for fl10, or “Nevada” for “NV-Access”?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Accessible SQL Clients

Luke Davis
 

Hello

Does anyone know of any NVDA accessible SQL clients? Specifically for PostGreSQL, MySQL, or MariaDB?

I usually do database work from the Linux shell (actual or WSL), but a recent discussion on another list has made me wonder if there are any accessible GUI applications for this which anyone can point to.

There are many out there, and before I started downloading them randomly and testing, I thought I would ask.

Luke


NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi all,

NVDA 2021.1beta2 is now available for testing. This is the second beta for the 2021.1 release, please install and test the release and report any issues.

Highlights and download links can be found in the release blog post at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-1beta2/

Thanks!

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

Gerardo Corripio
 

There's also the Spanish NVDA community which you can get info on the EMail list, and others, by going to www.nvda.es

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 3 jun 2021, a la(s) 6:22 p.m., Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escribió:

As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group.  There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages.  I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not.

I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows.
--------

NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)

NOTE:  All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below.  Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.

 

These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:

nvda-fr / nvda-fr

Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20

nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA

Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18

NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu

Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20

nvdadutch / NVDADutch

Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15

nvda-tw

這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16

 

The following exist, but currently have very few members:

NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL

Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20

nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム(管理者からのお知らせ専用)

NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16

nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese

NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20

nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste

Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19

nvda-ar / NVDA العربي

تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17

nvdacn / nvda中文小

hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17

nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen

Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17

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Re: NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


NVDA em Português
nvdaemportugues@...

Comunidade de utilizadores do leitor de ecrã NVDA em Língua portuguesa

Created: 21/11/2009

More than 700 members...


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Às 00:22 de 04/06/2021, Brian Vogel escreveu:

As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group.  There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages.  I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not.

I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows.
--------

NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)

NOTE:  All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below.  Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.

 

These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:

nvda-fr / nvda-fr

Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20

nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA

Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18

NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu

Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20

nvdadutch / NVDADutch

Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15

nvda-tw

這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16

 

The following exist, but currently have very few members:

NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL

Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20

nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム(管理者からのお知らせ専用)

NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16

nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese

NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20

nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste

Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19

nvda-ar / NVDA العربي

تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17

nvdacn / nvda中文小

hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17

nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen

Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17

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Re: What's the situation with Seika Braille drivers?

Rowen Cary
 

Yes, we hope it can be integrated into NVDA2021.1.


Re: NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

Luke Davis
 

The following wiki page also contains various language-specific resources.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect

Luke


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Luis, I'm glad you made contact with me through email.

Our Spanish work has been suspended for a while now.  We are looking for a good reason to resume.

Below is a link to a short mp3. It is an example of our initial experiment. It is a European, Madrid-area accent.  It should be easy to move to Lat-Am accents. But, I have been told that a cecero accent is helpful to blind Latin-Americans for making clear the spelling of words.

https://louderpages.org/imgs/audio/carlos_1.mp3


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Luke Davis
 

Daniel Parker wrote:

Absolutely will do Mark. Expect an email shortly. However, I'm still interested in what the NVDA team has to say on this regarding their use of eSpeak. No
Most of NV Access does not participate on this list. Therefore, if you want to know what the NVDA team has to say, you may want to post your message where they are more likely to see it, such as either as a github issue, or on the nvda-devel list.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel

Luke


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Hi Daniel, 

In case you don't hear back from the NVDA team soon, can I ask:  Have you looked at the affiliation of the authors of each of those E-speak NG voices?  I think for the most part that those authors may be unaware of NVDA's existence.  Any phonetic issues are the responsibility of the e-speak maintainers and not, I would  suggest, within  NVDA's purview.

And coming back to RHVoice. Do you prefer robotic voices because they can be played at speed?  HTS voices are playable at high speed intelligibly too. 

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

You said you're working on spanish voices. I've sent you a mail but didn't answer. can I be applyed?

Louder Pages wrote:

Hi Robert,  You are looking for the RHVoice NVDA add-on, right? Try this page. https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Binaries.md

It also has links to the English voices, which in my opinion are not as good as other languages . The male voice, Alan is best I think, although it is a Scottish, not US accent. 

We here at Louder Pages collaborate closely with RH Voice and would like to make an improved English voice.  But, so many more deserving languages to cover! LOL

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Hi Robert,  You are looking for the RHVoice NVDA add-on, right? Try this page. https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Binaries.md

It also has links to the English voices, which in my opinion are not as good as other languages . The male voice, Alan is best I think, although it is a Scottish, not US accent. 

We here at Louder Pages collaborate closely with RH Voice and would like to make an improved English voice.  But, so many more deserving languages to cover! LOL

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi,


Looking at the link mentioned below however could not find the RH voices addons files for nvda, and for English voice. I appreciate if you could share the direct link instead. Thanks.


Kind regards,


Robert

On 6/3/2021 9:00 AM, Louder Pages wrote:
Daniel,

Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with several languages.  RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.

https://github.com/RHVoice

It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than e-speak.

We here at https://louderpages.org  are just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.  

Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think we could use your help in future projects.  We use a mix of U.K. and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from those Aussie punctuation marks. :)

I hope you will get in touch -  inq@...

Kind regards, Mark


NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

 

As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group.  There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages.  I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not.

I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows.
--------

NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)

NOTE:  All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below.  Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.

 

These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:

nvda-fr / nvda-fr

Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20

nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA

Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18

NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu

Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20

nvdadutch / NVDADutch

Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15

nvda-tw

這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16

 

The following exist, but currently have very few members:

NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL

Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20

nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム(管理者からのお知らせ専用)

NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16

nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese

NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20

nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste

Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19

nvda-ar / NVDA العربي

تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17

nvdacn / nvda中文小

hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17

nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen

Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17

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locked Admin's Note: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I am requesting that this topic come to a close immediately, and will be locking the thread. The reasons are as follows:
  1. There have been over 70 messages to this thread, and very early on, it was established that the issues are not related to NVDA. This in itself makes this thread off-topic.
  2. This issue so far is only impacting two users so far as I can tell, and this could be for any number of reasons, also not related to NVDA.
  3. Discussing what we like and don't like about a program or application is off-topic and not related to NVDA unless we are discussing something NVDA-specific which impacts the use of an application.
  4. 70 messages on any thread seems excessive to me, and while there isn't a rule in place about the number of messages permitted in a thread, we aren't advancing any further at this point. A bug has been filed with Mozilla, the issue is not related to NVDA, end of story.

If you have any questions, or if you'd like to discuss further, please send an email to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

Best,

Nimer Jaber, List Owner



On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:36 PM Dave Grossoehme <dave@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon:  This change makes it easier for the general user.  Considering most applications are controlled by a settings label, not options label.  You look in Windows, a cell phone or many other applications you will see the word settings, not options.  It's more understandable to the general public.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:

The setting is part of the general section, so it should be reachable without any extra steps.

I agree that these changes sometimes seem unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform, this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The sections of various headings you see are controlled by a list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you want, and the headings with options will appear.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 2, 2021 03:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

You can control updates.  You may have to turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or settings dialog where you select the category you will work with. 

 

Previously, the update selection was found in options.  In a change in the current version, there is no more options.  Now, its settings.  Its in the tools folder still but the name was changed.  Just one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse people and require that all support documentation that mentioned options be rewritten.  Do program developers ever consider what amount of useless and needless work some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on people? 

 

I’m not singling out Firefox developers but this is an example of how a change in one word can cause a great deal of work. 

 

There is no more updates section as a separate section in settings.  it is now in the general settings, which is the one you work with by default when you open settings.  Tab and tab and tab and you will eventually get to a series of radio buttons for determining update behavior.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> 

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> 

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  This change makes it easier for the general user.  Considering most applications are controlled by a settings label, not options label.  You look in Windows, a cell phone or many other applications you will see the word settings, not options.  It's more understandable to the general public.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:

The setting is part of the general section, so it should be reachable without any extra steps.

I agree that these changes sometimes seem unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform, this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The sections of various headings you see are controlled by a list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you want, and the headings with options will appear.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 2, 2021 03:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

You can control updates.  You may have to turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or settings dialog where you select the category you will work with. 

 

Previously, the update selection was found in options.  In a change in the current version, there is no more options.  Now, its settings.  Its in the tools folder still but the name was changed.  Just one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse people and require that all support documentation that mentioned options be rewritten.  Do program developers ever consider what amount of useless and needless work some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on people? 

 

I’m not singling out Firefox developers but this is an example of how a change in one word can cause a great deal of work. 

 

There is no more updates section as a separate section in settings.  it is now in the general settings, which is the one you work with by default when you open settings.  Tab and tab and tab and you will eventually get to a series of radio buttons for determining update behavior.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

>>> ____________________________________________________________

>>> Sponsored by

>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=

>>> rss_taglines_more

>>> 

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>>> 

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  If you go to settings in tools and tab through you will find a button to have Firefox automatically update or you can tab once more and you have a second option to set firefox let you manually check for updates.  When you said you could not update I went into Firefox and was able to go right there.  It has been moved out of options and placed in settings.  In going through settings, it's just like options and settings was put in it's place.  I have never let firefox update automatically for me. 

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:20 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

>>> ____________________________________________________________

>>> Sponsored by

>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=

>>> rss_taglines_more

>>> 

>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share Your Internet on June 8

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du

>>> c1

>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du

>>> c2 Florida Man Cites 'Stand Your Ground' in Iguana Killing

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du

>>> c3

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I updated to firefox 89.0 for the 64 bit version of the program.  I'm running NVDA 2020.4 and haven't had any problems.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 11:31 AM, Gene wrote:
Set the browser to notify you when updates are available but not to automatically update.  Perhaps updates aren’t sent to all users simultaneously but since you may be updated at any time, you may want to disconnect from the Internet before you run Firefox and make this change.  Also, as I’ve said, to keep safe with current security updates, you can use the ESR version.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
 
So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>> Sponsored by
>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=
>>> rss_taglines_more
>>>
>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share Your Internet on June 8
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du
>>> c1
>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du
>>> c2 Florida Man Cites 'Stand Your Ground' in Iguana Killing
>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du
>>> c3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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