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Re: What's the situation with Seika Braille drivers?

Rowen Cary
 

Yes, we hope it can be integrated into NVDA2021.1.


Re: NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

Luke Davis
 

The following wiki page also contains various language-specific resources.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Connect

Luke


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Luis, I'm glad you made contact with me through email.

Our Spanish work has been suspended for a while now.  We are looking for a good reason to resume.

Below is a link to a short mp3. It is an example of our initial experiment. It is a European, Madrid-area accent.  It should be easy to move to Lat-Am accents. But, I have been told that a cecero accent is helpful to blind Latin-Americans for making clear the spelling of words.

https://louderpages.org/imgs/audio/carlos_1.mp3


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Luke Davis
 

Daniel Parker wrote:

Absolutely will do Mark. Expect an email shortly. However, I'm still interested in what the NVDA team has to say on this regarding their use of eSpeak. No
Most of NV Access does not participate on this list. Therefore, if you want to know what the NVDA team has to say, you may want to post your message where they are more likely to see it, such as either as a github issue, or on the nvda-devel list.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel

Luke


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Hi Daniel, 

In case you don't hear back from the NVDA team soon, can I ask:  Have you looked at the affiliation of the authors of each of those E-speak NG voices?  I think for the most part that those authors may be unaware of NVDA's existence.  Any phonetic issues are the responsibility of the e-speak maintainers and not, I would  suggest, within  NVDA's purview.

And coming back to RHVoice. Do you prefer robotic voices because they can be played at speed?  HTS voices are playable at high speed intelligibly too. 

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

You said you're working on spanish voices. I've sent you a mail but didn't answer. can I be applyed?

Louder Pages wrote:

Hi Robert,  You are looking for the RHVoice NVDA add-on, right? Try this page. https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Binaries.md

It also has links to the English voices, which in my opinion are not as good as other languages . The male voice, Alan is best I think, although it is a Scottish, not US accent. 

We here at Louder Pages collaborate closely with RH Voice and would like to make an improved English voice.  But, so many more deserving languages to cover! LOL

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Louder Pages
 

Hi Robert,  You are looking for the RHVoice NVDA add-on, right? Try this page. https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Binaries.md

It also has links to the English voices, which in my opinion are not as good as other languages . The male voice, Alan is best I think, although it is a Scottish, not US accent. 

We here at Louder Pages collaborate closely with RH Voice and would like to make an improved English voice.  But, so many more deserving languages to cover! LOL

- Mark


Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi,


Looking at the link mentioned below however could not find the RH voices addons files for nvda, and for English voice. I appreciate if you could share the direct link instead. Thanks.


Kind regards,


Robert

On 6/3/2021 9:00 AM, Louder Pages wrote:
Daniel,

Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with several languages.  RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.

https://github.com/RHVoice

It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than e-speak.

We here at https://louderpages.org  are just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.  

Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think we could use your help in future projects.  We use a mix of U.K. and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from those Aussie punctuation marks. :)

I hope you will get in touch -  inq@...

Kind regards, Mark


NVDA Groups for Speakers of Specific Languages

 

As has been mentioned recently, although the NVDA Group has no formal restrictions on the posting language, it is a de facto English language group.  There are a number of NVDA-centric communities created by native speakers of a number of languages.  I cannot say anything beyond that other than that some appear to already have what I'll call a "critical mass" of members and are fairly active, while some others are not.

I have collected to those I could find on Groups.io, and that list follows.
--------

NVDA Groups for Specific Language Communities (as of 6/2021)

NOTE:  All NVDA Groups list their group email addresses on their main pages, and the links to these main pages are below.  Look there for the subscribe, post, unsubscribe and other addresses for each group.

 

These groups have significant activity and a “critical mass” of members already:

nvda-fr / nvda-fr

Liste par et pour les utilisateurs francophones de NVDA. Adresse : nvda-fr@groups.io
Created: 11/14/20

nvda-it / Lista di discussione su NVDA

Lista di discussione in italiano riguardo lo screen reader NVDA, appartenente al sito www.nvda.it
Created: 01/31/18

NVDATR / NVDATR Bilgi ve Deneyim Paylaşım Grubu

Türkçe konuşan NVDA kullanıcılarının NVDA ile ilgili soru, sorun, görüş, öneri paylaşabilecekleri bir ileti grubu
Created: 04/28/20

nvdadutch / NVDADutch

Dit is een Nederlandstalige mailinglijst voor de NVDA-gebruikers in België en Nederland.
Created: 06/14/15

nvda-tw

這是NVDA台灣使用者專屬的討 論群組
Created: 06/22/16

 

The following exist, but currently have very few members:

NVDA-BENL / NVDA-BENL

Alles wat niks met NVDA te maken heft is niet toegestaan. Op deze manier beschadigen het forum zijn doel niet.
Created: 05/04/20

nvdajp / NVDA日本語チーム(管理者からのお知らせ専用)

NVDA 日本語版に関する現在のメーリングリストのご案内
Created: 09/04/16

nvdaexpertstudyjapan / NVDA Expert Study Japanese

NVDAエキスパート勉強会用メーリングリストです。
Created: 05/30/20

nvda-de / Deusche NVDA-Diskussionsliste

Deutschsprachige Diskussionsliste rund um NVDA
Created: 12/06/19

nvda-ar / NVDA العربي

تناقش هذه القائمة مواضيع متعلقة بقارء الشاشة NVDA العربي.
Created: 08/14/17

nvdacn / nvda中文小

hello NVDA china team
Created: 07/29/17

nvda-brugergruppen / NVDA-Brugergruppen

Dette en mailinglisten for den danske NVDA-brugergruppen.
Created: 04/07/17

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locked Admin's Note: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I am requesting that this topic come to a close immediately, and will be locking the thread. The reasons are as follows:
  1. There have been over 70 messages to this thread, and very early on, it was established that the issues are not related to NVDA. This in itself makes this thread off-topic.
  2. This issue so far is only impacting two users so far as I can tell, and this could be for any number of reasons, also not related to NVDA.
  3. Discussing what we like and don't like about a program or application is off-topic and not related to NVDA unless we are discussing something NVDA-specific which impacts the use of an application.
  4. 70 messages on any thread seems excessive to me, and while there isn't a rule in place about the number of messages permitted in a thread, we aren't advancing any further at this point. A bug has been filed with Mozilla, the issue is not related to NVDA, end of story.

If you have any questions, or if you'd like to discuss further, please send an email to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

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On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:36 PM Dave Grossoehme <dave@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon:  This change makes it easier for the general user.  Considering most applications are controlled by a settings label, not options label.  You look in Windows, a cell phone or many other applications you will see the word settings, not options.  It's more understandable to the general public.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:

The setting is part of the general section, so it should be reachable without any extra steps.

I agree that these changes sometimes seem unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform, this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The sections of various headings you see are controlled by a list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you want, and the headings with options will appear.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 2, 2021 03:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

You can control updates.  You may have to turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or settings dialog where you select the category you will work with. 

 

Previously, the update selection was found in options.  In a change in the current version, there is no more options.  Now, its settings.  Its in the tools folder still but the name was changed.  Just one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse people and require that all support documentation that mentioned options be rewritten.  Do program developers ever consider what amount of useless and needless work some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on people? 

 

I’m not singling out Firefox developers but this is an example of how a change in one word can cause a great deal of work. 

 

There is no more updates section as a separate section in settings.  it is now in the general settings, which is the one you work with by default when you open settings.  Tab and tab and tab and you will eventually get to a series of radio buttons for determining update behavior.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> 

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> 

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

>>> ____________________________________________________________

>>> Sponsored by

>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=

>>> rss_taglines_more

>>> 

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  This change makes it easier for the general user.  Considering most applications are controlled by a settings label, not options label.  You look in Windows, a cell phone or many other applications you will see the word settings, not options.  It's more understandable to the general public.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:52 PM, JM Casey wrote:

The setting is part of the general section, so it should be reachable without any extra steps.

I agree that these changes sometimes seem unnecessarily, but to be fair: Firefox has now been like this for quite a long time, at least since the advent of Quantum, and it reflects the way a lot of things look on mobile devices – and as everything is going multiplatform, this is just what we are seeing across the board nowadays. Once you get the hang of it, it’s not too inconvenient. The sections of various headings you see are controlled by a list box, and you just pick the category in the list box you want, and the headings with options will appear.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 2, 2021 03:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

You can control updates.  You may have to turn browse mode off to see the part of the options or settings dialog where you select the category you will work with. 

 

Previously, the update selection was found in options.  In a change in the current version, there is no more options.  Now, its settings.  Its in the tools folder still but the name was changed.  Just one more unnecessary change to momentarily confuse people and require that all support documentation that mentioned options be rewritten.  Do program developers ever consider what amount of useless and needless work some of their completely unnecessary changes impose on people? 

 

I’m not singling out Firefox developers but this is an example of how a change in one word can cause a great deal of work. 

 

There is no more updates section as a separate section in settings.  it is now in the general settings, which is the one you work with by default when you open settings.  Tab and tab and tab and you will eventually get to a series of radio buttons for determining update behavior.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 2:20 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

>>> ____________________________________________________________

>>> Sponsored by

>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=

>>> rss_taglines_more

>>> 

>>> Amazon Has Plans to Share Your Internet on June 8

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a5d99136993ba5st01du

>>> c1

>>> Trump's Blog Page Is No More

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69a813c536993ba5st01du

>>> c2 Florida Man Cites 'Stand Your Ground' in Iguana Killing

>>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/60b7b69aa473136993ba5st01du

>>> c3

>>> 

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  If you go to settings in tools and tab through you will find a button to have Firefox automatically update or you can tab once more and you have a second option to set firefox let you manually check for updates.  When you said you could not update I went into Firefox and was able to go right there.  It has been moved out of options and placed in settings.  In going through settings, it's just like options and settings was put in it's place.  I have never let firefox update automatically for me. 

Dave


On 6/2/2021 12:20 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Firefox automatically updates itself, Theres no way to stop it from doing so anymore

 

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: 02 June 2021 19:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie

Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.

It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

 

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:

> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

> it.

> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

> report that & be believable?

> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.

>> 

>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled

>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a

>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.

>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message

>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the

>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with

>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to

>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts

>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?

>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine

>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on

>>> the

>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact

>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going

>>> on here? Thank you.

>>> ____________________________________________________________

>>> Sponsored by

>>> https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=

>>> rss_taglines_more

>>> 

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I updated to firefox 89.0 for the 64 bit version of the program.  I'm running NVDA 2020.4 and haven't had any problems.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 11:31 AM, Gene wrote:
Set the browser to notify you when updates are available but not to automatically update.  Perhaps updates aren’t sent to all users simultaneously but since you may be updated at any time, you may want to disconnect from the Internet before you run Firefox and make this change.  Also, as I’ve said, to keep safe with current security updates, you can use the ESR version.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA
 
So, how long before we all get v.89 unless we take steps not to update. Don't want to be caught unawares before this happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: June 2, 2021 02:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

I've tried both w/the NVDA beta as well as the stable version, folks.
It's broken on my system, & that includes w/Narrator & Jaws also.

On 6/2/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:
> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given
> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that
> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd
> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any
> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I
> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding
> it.
>
> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,
> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows
> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list
> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile
> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one
> report that & be believable?
>
> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:
>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a
>> way I can say no to the update. thanks.
>>
>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
>>>  Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled
>>> and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a
>>> new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find
>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10
>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email.
>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example
>>> cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message
>>> whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the
>>> arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with
>>> unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to
>>> the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts
>>> in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here?
>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from
>>> Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine
>>> windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine
>>> have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on
>>> the
>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on
>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to
>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I
>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact
>>> I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going
>>> on here? Thank you.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

Absolutely will do Mark. Expect an email shortly. However, I'm still interested in what the NVDA team has to say on this regarding their use of eSpeak. No disrespect to your project, but eSpeak is still good, and I don't mind robotic voices, as many blind people will tell you. If a response from them is not forthcoming I may contact them directly.

Best,
Daniel


Re: Firefox suddenly stopped reading pages.

Jackie
 

Please reference bug #1714212 on bugzilla.org & report your
configuration, etc. We're working w/James Teh right now to try to
resolve this, but the problem is that it doesn't happen on all
systems. I reported this yesterday.

On 6/3/21, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
Hi all.


I was reading an article on CNN I think, then I closed Firefox. I opened
it again to search for something, and now Firefox won't read any pages,
everything says "unknown", e.g. tabbing, and the arrows are silent. I've
restarted my machine, restarted NVDA with addons disabled, and neither
helped. Edge reads just fine.


I'm running the latest Windows update, installed over a week ago so it's
not that, latest stable NVDA, 2020.4, and latest Firefox, but though it
reads most other things that are part of the browser, e.g. menus and the
like, it doesn't want to read the "about Firefox" dialogue, so I don't
know what version of that I'm running. I did try checking for updates
though and there were none. Did a full scan with Windows Defender and
turned up nothing.


If anybody has any ideas, I'd really appreciate them. I have no idea why
this would happen all of a sudden with nothing having been updated or
something obvious like that.






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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

This was done in error; disregard.


locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just had fire fox update to version 89 no problems and is a 64 bit version.


The only thing was at first it gave me options  of which I said not now. I can not remember if I had a home page set  which put me up near some shortcuts on the browser but then went in and set the home page and all is good.

Even without setting the home page if I typed in a web address in the location bar it loaded up the page.

It is not my default browser I usually use google or edge etc.


Gene nz

On 4/06/2021 9:23 am, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Good Afternoon:  About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version.  They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine.  This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.

Dave


On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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Re: A few questions about NVDA, eSpeak NG, and languages (non-programer)

Daniel Parker
 

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:19 PM, Louder Pages wrote:
Daniel,

Have you come across RHVoice? It is an Open Source TTS with several languages.  RHVoice has its own NVDA add-on.

https://github.com/RHVoice

It uses HTS technology which provides more natural voices than e-speak.

We here at https://louderpages.org  are just completing a Macedonian voice commissioned by the government of N.Macedonia, and are starting work on Albanian.  

Reading about your interest in linguistics and phonetics, I think we could use your help in future projects.  We use a mix of U.K. and U.S. English as a working language, so we can save you from those Aussie punctuation marks. :)

I hope you will get in touch -  inq@...

Kind regards, Mark


locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Arlene
 

No kidding! Apple is solid and there are no other operating systems like there are with windows. I don’t use it but I do know hey manage to work out their bugs.  Windows is windows. They run the same but each computer is different and so is the softwhere. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: June 3, 2021 10:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

 

This is windows. You can't possibly figure out all the software &

hardware combinations out there that might possibly cause something to

explode. Apple has it far easier in that regard, & they still manage

to blow stuff up nonetheless.

 

On 6/3/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> Which means nothing.  the problem may not affect most or the majority of

> users.  That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

> Beta testing is done with a lot of people using a lot of different computers

> because a program that works well on most machines may not on some and the

> purpose of beta testing is to look for unknown problems that show up on some

> systems.

> Gene

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Chris Smart

> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 11:53 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

> that's three of us now with no problems.

> On 2021-06-03 12:52 p.m., Shaun Oliver wrote:

>> um, I just updated to version 89.0 and I've not seen any issue what so

>> ever.

>> 

>> 

>> On 3/06/2021 2:44 pm, Jackie rambled on about the following:

>>> press ctrl l & run about:config. Press the button to tell them you'll

>>> accept the risk. Search for the word accessibility. Having thus said,

>>> that does not appear to be the problem.

>>> 

>>> Jamie can't reproduce this on any system in his possession, but he & I

>>> will be working together tomorrow evening my time, Friday morning his,

>>> to see if we can't reach some sort of conclusions.

>>> 

>>> On 6/2/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

>>>> Hi Group,

>>>> 

>>>> I m wondering that if by default Firefox 89 is having the box

>>>> concerning

>>>> blocking accessibility checked checked by default.  If this is true,

>>>> there is a way using a hack of some sort involving the configuration

>>>> editor to uncheck it without having to use sighted assistance.

>>>> Unfortunately, I seem to have deleted the information concerning just

>>>> how this is done.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> On 6/2/2021 2:16 PM, Jackie wrote:

>>>>> Obviously not, since I'm the 1 who actually started this thread. Given

>>>>> that at least 1 other individual is experiencing this, & given that

>>>>> Mozilla has made significant underlying changes to its interface, I'd

>>>>> seriously suggest updating w/caution. I guess I'll not comment any

>>>>> more though, because Narrator & Jaws don't work w/it either, so I

>>>>> think this is not an issue w/NVDA, & I apologize for posting regarding

>>>>> it.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Interestingly, if I start firefox when choosing a profile every time,

>>>>> it works. If I select any profile & start it up w/o asking, it blows

>>>>> up. In other words, even if I choose a profile from the profile list

>>>>> and start it, everything's fine. If I load the same profile

>>>>> automatically, stuff craters. Go figure! How the firetruck does one

>>>>> report that & be believable?

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 6/2/21, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

>>>>>> Are you the only one having this problem? I'd like to know, that a

>>>>>> way I

>>>>>> can say no to the update. thanks.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:

>>>>>>>    Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I

>>>>>>> uninstalled and

>>>>>>> reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new

>>>>>>> profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find

>>>>>>> anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10

>>>>>>> home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the

>>>>>>> email.

>>>>>>> Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example

>>>>>>> cbsnews.com,

>>>>>>> I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab

>>>>>>> around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it

>>>>>>> says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown

>>>>>>> but am

>>>>>>> not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help

>>>>>>> section,

>>>>>>> I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot

>>>>>>> mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on

>>>>>>> here?

>>>>>>> I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from

>>>>>>> Cox.com

>>>>>>> using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine

>>>>>>> windows10

>>>>>>> pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have

>>>>>>> everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the

>>>>>>> windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on

>>>>>>> that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to

>>>>>>> restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I

>>>>>>> even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In

>>>>>>> fact I

>>>>>>> did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on

>>>>>>> here? Thank you.

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locked Re: Updated Firefox to version 89, can no longer use w/NVDA

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  About a week ago someone was having problems with Firefox with the 64 bit version.  They went to the 32 bit version and it worked fine.  This would make me think there is a problem with the 64 bit version.

Dave

On 6/2/2021 9:49 AM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. I am experiencing the same thing with NVDA, I uninstalled and reinstalled firefox, ran the calm registration tool, created a new profile, still nothing and did a system file check, did not find anything. According to the scan everything was fixed on my windows10 home machine. That is the one I am on right now writing out the email. Whenever I go to the website just to give you an example cbsnews.com, I load it on to firefox and getting unknown message whenever I tab around the page think it loads, whenever I press the arrow keys it says unknown, am tabbing around again it comes up with unknown but am not sure what is going on, but when I am going in to the help section, I have to run the trouble shoot mode, it restarts in trouble shoot mode everything is fine when am on a website so what is going on here? I am not on a network of any kind just your typical modem from Cox.com using a wired connection. However I do have a second machine windows10 pro 64 bit and both the home machine and the pro machine have everything up to date and are running 64 bit, it is weird on the windows10 pro I did not have to do anything firefox works great on that one verses the home machine. I can not figure out why I have to restart firefox in trouble shoot mode on the windows home machine. I even did a reset think that would help, no such luck there. In fact I did load jaws, nothing there. Could someone tell us what is going on here? Thank you.
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