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Re: the new voices for nvda

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

But in alphas, there’s no more.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

I am using NVDA 2021.1 Beta2 and Edward is on the variants for eSpeake...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:50 de 07/06/2021, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz escreveu:

Hi,

I cannot confirm.

Edward is not available there.

There was downgrade of espeak in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Hi everyone,

Edward is now part of eSpeak NG that ships with NVDA 2021.1 beta 2.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: the new voices for nvda

Rui Fontes
 

I am using NVDA 2021.1 Beta2 and Edward is on the variants for eSpeake...


Rui Fontes


Às 11:50 de 07/06/2021, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz escreveu:

Hi,

I cannot confirm.

Edward is not available there.

There was downgrade of espeak in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Hi everyone,

Edward is now part of eSpeak NG that ships with NVDA 2021.1 beta 2.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: the new voices for nvda

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi,

I cannot confirm.

Edward is not available there.

There was downgrade of espeak in place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda

 

Hi everyone,

Edward is now part of eSpeak NG that ships with NVDA 2021.1 beta 2.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: the new voices for nvda

 

Hi everyone,

Edward is now part of eSpeak NG that ships with NVDA 2021.1 beta 2.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: the new voices for nvda

Gene
 

Whenever odde behavior is present, try restarting the program and rebooting if that doesn’t solve the problem. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bobby
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda
 

Well I am using nvda 2021.1.  Just to let you know I restarted nvda and some how they came back.  Thank you for your help after all.

On 6/7/2021 4:55 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Bobby,
 
Which version of NVDA are you using?  and are you using any add-ons?  I just looked in NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2, and those two voices are listed.
 
I can't specifically think of any add-ons which might remove them, but they definitely seem to be there for me.
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:36 PM Bobby <vinton.bobby@...> wrote:
Hay I was wondering why you got rid of the edward and klatt 6 voice?  I
am very sad they are gone because they are the clearest voices I used in
nvda.  I was wondering they will be back because they worked very well
for me and they never broke up on me.  I was playing with the baita of
nvda and was very upset to find all the new voices were gone.  Are they
gone for good or will they come back again because I am very upset now.






 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: the new voices for nvda

Bobby
 

Well I am using nvda 2021.1.  Just to let you know I restarted nvda and some how they came back.  Thank you for your help after all.

On 6/7/2021 4:55 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Bobby,

Which version of NVDA are you using?  and are you using any add-ons?  I just looked in NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2, and those two voices are listed.

I can't specifically think of any add-ons which might remove them, but they definitely seem to be there for me.

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:36 PM Bobby <vinton.bobby@...> wrote:
Hay I was wondering why you got rid of the edward and klatt 6 voice?  I
am very sad they are gone because they are the clearest voices I used in
nvda.  I was wondering they will be back because they worked very well
for me and they never broke up on me.  I was playing with the baita of
nvda and was very upset to find all the new voices were gone.  Are they
gone for good or will they come back again because I am very upset now.








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: the new voices for nvda

Gene
 

I haven’t gotten beta two but I have beta one and they are there.  It wouldn’t be at all likely that they are in the first beta and not in the second.
 
Gene
-----Original Message[-

Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the new voices for nvda
 
Hi Bobby,
 
Which version of NVDA are you using?  and are you using any add-ons?  I just looked in NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2, and those two voices are listed.
 
I can't specifically think of any add-ons which might remove them, but they definitely seem to be there for me.
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:36 PM Bobby <vinton.bobby@...> wrote:
Hay I was wondering why you got rid of the edward and klatt 6 voice?  I
am very sad they are gone because they are the clearest voices I used in
nvda.  I was wondering they will be back because they worked very well
for me and they never broke up on me.  I was playing with the baita of
nvda and was very upset to find all the new voices were gone.  Are they
gone for good or will they come back again because I am very upset now.






 
 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: the new voices for nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Bobby,

Which version of NVDA are you using?  and are you using any add-ons?  I just looked in NVDA 2021.1 Beta 2, and those two voices are listed.

I can't specifically think of any add-ons which might remove them, but they definitely seem to be there for me.

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 4:36 PM Bobby <vinton.bobby@...> wrote:
Hay I was wondering why you got rid of the edward and klatt 6 voice?  I
am very sad they are gone because they are the clearest voices I used in
nvda.  I was wondering they will be back because they worked very well
for me and they never broke up on me.  I was playing with the baita of
nvda and was very upset to find all the new voices were gone.  Are they
gone for good or will they come back again because I am very upset now.








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: A Gentle Reminder About Using Descriptive Topic Titles #adminnotice

Quentin Christensen
 

Also just a reminder that if you solve an issue you have asked for help with and want to share that - please do so as a reply to your original post.  I took the time to reply to a query earlier, only to then come across a later post not connected to the original one stating that the issue was fixed.


On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:01 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Hello All,

As of late I've noticed a slide toward the use of generic topic titles that give the reader absolutely no idea what it's all about, which is what the topic title should do.  I am asking everyone to please take the following group rule very seriously.  In times of flux like we're in now, having topic titles that give a clear picture of what's being discussed is absolutely vital.

4.  Think very carefully about the title you are going to give any topic you post.  The topic is the first (and, sometimes, only) thing a member sees and that may be how they decide if they’re going to look further.   Generic titles, such as “Help Me!,” or, "Weird problem," are not helpful because they give no idea about what.  Compare that to something like, “NVDA not reading Excel cell contents,” or, “NVDA setting for pronouncing numbers,” where the exact issue where help is needed is front and center.   Even something like, “Need help with the following . . .,” lets the reader know that you are going to present a list of issues.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: [Solved] Problem with Bluetooth clipping words

Quentin Christensen
 

Is it any particular program?


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 4:42 AM Betsy Grenevitch <blindangel61@...> wrote:
I am not using a headset and the power is not turning off. The cursor
seems to just be missing the word at the beginning of a line. thanks for
the suggestion, though.


On 6/4/2021 11:40 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If you are using a Bluetooth headset, then your computer is turning off its sound card to save power whenever there is a pause.  If you are not using a Bluetooth headset, then that is another issue.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone: 713-444-7838
> E-mail: ljmaher03@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2021 10:20 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] reading line by line and missing words
>
> This has been happening for some time and I cannot remember when it started but hope someone can help if I can explain it clear enough.
>
>
> There are times when I read line by line with the arrow keys if I am
> looking for a particular word or phrase in an article or email. For some
> time now, and I think it started happening after the latest update of
> NVDA--not the beta one that is being worked on as I have not taken that
> one--that when going line by line it misses words at the beginning of a
> line. If I do "read all" it does fine but it is only when I am arrowing
> down or up in the file. Does anyone have any idea what setting may have
> changed? I know sometimes my screen flips direction but that has not
> made a difference in the past.
>
>
> Thanks so much for any ideas you can offer.
>
>
>
--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

Luke Davis
 

Luke Davis wrote:

What method are you using to link the file?
In the wrong order, I then read through the JFW discussion, and learned two things.

1) You are talking about the Control+k or Alt+n, j, j method, not the context menu method I tried.
And
2) People really don't pay attention to the details of what other people ask for. Yeesh.

Luke


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

Luke Davis
 

Brian

What method are you using to link the file?

I have not actually done this since Word 2003 or 97, so I started with the most obvious method.

1. I opened explorer and found a word document. (.doc format)
2. I Pressed shift+applications (shift right-click), to get an enhanced context menu.
3. I pressed a, to copy as path.
4. I opened a blank document in Word 2019.
5. I Typed two lines of text, with a blank in the middle.
6. I went to the blank between the lines, and pressed applications.
7. I selected "Create link".
8. I pasted (control+v), and deleted the included quotes that come with pasted results of copy as path.
9. I changed no other settings, and pressed enter. There is some kind of label setting in there, but it was already set to the filename.

Between my lines of text, there was now the full path and name of the linked file. I was able to move into the filename with arrow keys, and press enter to open it.
I also tried in browse mode, with the same results.

I suspect I am doing this differently to how you did it, since I got no icon option or the other things you described.

Luke


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

 

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 11:24 PM, Sascha Cowley wrote:
I have not been able to get NVDA to report the embedded document name, either.
-
Which is a major stumbling block, as far as I'm concerned.  But it may be that Word does not expose "the name" assigned to the object to the screen reader at all.

But I thank you for confirming that I'm not the only one who's having this issue.

Also thanks to all for the Context Menu technique.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

Sascha Cowley
 

You can open the associated document through the context menu > Document Object > Open. I have not been able to get NVDA to report the embedded document name, either.


Re: Correcting speech pattern

Luke Davis
 

(Sorry this is a few days late; I wrote it then didn't send for some reason)

You can create a regular expression like this in the voice dictionary, which might help:

Case sensitive: yes
Type: regular expression
Pattern: \b(AL|FL|MS|PA)\b
Replacement: \1

Of course, list all 50 states in the pattern.

That will save you from having to maintain 50 different dictionary entries.

Although, test it first with a minimal case, before trying to enter (or find and paste) all the states, to make sure it actually works with your particular synth.

Luke


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Brian,

 

There is no way to label the object. Having said that, try going into its properties and check if you can add an alternative text description.

I did not know that you can link multiple objects with a single link.

 

As for activating the link, I send my documents to sighted people and do ensure I keep a copy of whatever I am linking to. I do not know of any accessible way of opening such documents.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 10:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

 

Before I even think about opening a GitHub ticket about this, I thought I'd ask here in case there's something I'm doing wrong or a setting I don't know about that I need to tweak.  Some of what follows is NVDA-specific while others are about MS-Word in light of what's happening when using the screen reader, but not about NVDA, per se.

A question came up on the JAWS list about how to put a link to a file (not a hyperlink, but a link to another file on your computer) in to a Word document.  This is commonly known in geek speak as object linking and embedding, with the object in this case being another word file.  This is the topic: Links Within Word Document

In my case, I created a Word document in which I linked to another Word file,  I elected to use the Display as icon option, as I didn't want the text from that file displaying inline in the document I was working on, just easy access to it when that is wanted.

1. When I gain focus on the linked file, NVDA announces nothing but, "embedded object."  This is problematic in two respects.  The object is not embedded, but linked, and in this context that is a distinction with significant difference.  The name of the file itself, which actually displays beneath the icon for the linked file (it kind looks like a button, but without an edge around it), is not announced.  So you get nothing but "embedded object."  If a file where to have multiple linked or embedded objects there would be no way for the screen reader user to know exactly which type of thing they've gained focus on nor, in the case of a linked object displayed as icon, the actual name of the file so linked.  Is there something I can change as far as how this is announced?

2. "The sighted way" to fire up a separate Word window for a linked file displayed as icon is to double click on that icon.  But, I cannot seem to activate the icon once I have focus on it using "the typical methods" (like hitting Enter, for instance) when I have focus on it.  If there is a keyboard method to do this, what is it?


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDARemote question

Jim Noseworthy
 

Thanks.

 

I sent that email before I read your other email.

 

I did download the extension and it does work.

 

Again, thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 8:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDARemote question

 

Hi Jim

 

I was sure i put in a link to it it can be down loaded from my drop box account at https://www.dropbox.com/s/mskfialqojj1abo/remote_2.3_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Gene nz

 

On 6/06/2021 10:50 pm, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi:

 

What is the other add-on?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 1:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDARemote question

 

Hi Jim

 

I just checked and the one on the official website where the add on is for nvda remote has not been updated yet to work with nvda 2021.1 yet so the other add on is the alternative for the moment until it is updated there on the website.

 

Gene nz

 

On 6/06/2021 10:17 am, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi Gang:

 

Is there a version of NVDARemote compatible with the new NVDA beta?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

 


Re: NVDARemote question

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Jim


I was sure i put in a link to it it can be down loaded from my drop box account at https://www.dropbox.com/s/mskfialqojj1abo/remote_2.3_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Gene nz


On 6/06/2021 10:50 pm, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi:

 

What is the other add-on?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2021 1:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDARemote question

 

Hi Jim

 

I just checked and the one on the official website where the add on is for nvda remote has not been updated yet to work with nvda 2021.1 yet so the other add on is the alternative for the moment until it is updated there on the website.

 

Gene nz

 

On 6/06/2021 10:17 am, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi Gang:

 

Is there a version of NVDARemote compatible with the new NVDA beta?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

 


Re: NVDARemote question

Kevin Cussick
 

Jim, drop me an email off list and I can help.

On 06/06/2021 11:50, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
Hi:
What is the other add-on?
Thanks all over the place.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* Sunday, June 6, 2021 1:05 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDARemote question
Hi Jim
I just checked and the one on the official website where the add on is for nvda remote has not been updated yet to work with nvda 2021.1 yet so the other add on is the alternative for the moment until it is updated there on the website.
Gene nz
On 6/06/2021 10:17 am, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
Hi Gang:
Is there a version of NVDARemote compatible with the new NVDA beta?
Thanks all over the place gang.


Re: NVDA, MS-Word, and Linked/Embedded Files

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Brian,


I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase here because to be honest, I hadn't played around with this feature in years, but I do believe there's a way to do it using the paste special option in Microsoft word.  You can use it to paste text as links, and formatting atributes.  I believe that you can do the same thing with files as well. Try messing around with that and see what happens.  


Tony



On 6/6/2021 12:47 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Before I even think about opening a GitHub ticket about this, I thought I'd ask here in case there's something I'm doing wrong or a setting I don't know about that I need to tweak.  Some of what follows is NVDA-specific while others are about MS-Word in light of what's happening when using the screen reader, but not about NVDA, per se.

A question came up on the JAWS list about how to put a link to a file (not a hyperlink, but a link to another file on your computer) in to a Word document.  This is commonly known in geek speak as object linking and embedding, with the object in this case being another word file.  This is the topic: Links Within Word Document

In my case, I created a Word document in which I linked to another Word file,  I elected to use the Display as icon option, as I didn't want the text from that file displaying inline in the document I was working on, just easy access to it when that is wanted.

1. When I gain focus on the linked file, NVDA announces nothing but, "embedded object."  This is problematic in two respects.  The object is not embedded, but linked, and in this context that is a distinction with significant difference.  The name of the file itself, which actually displays beneath the icon for the linked file (it kind looks like a button, but without an edge around it), is not announced.  So you get nothing but "embedded object."  If a file where to have multiple linked or embedded objects there would be no way for the screen reader user to know exactly which type of thing they've gained focus on nor, in the case of a linked object displayed as icon, the actual name of the file so linked.  Is there something I can change as far as how this is announced?

2. "The sighted way" to fire up a separate Word window for a linked file displayed as icon is to double click on that icon.  But, I cannot seem to activate the icon once I have focus on it using "the typical methods" (like hitting Enter, for instance) when I have focus on it.  If there is a keyboard method to do this, what is it?


--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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