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Re: IMAP mail rules in gmail using NVDA

 

Ketan,

        All folder and rule setup for IMAP is generally done on the e-mail server and in the case of Gmail that means using their webmail interface, settings page, Filters and Blocked Addresses "tab"/link.

        I know that I posted step-by-step stuff on this at one point and can try to find it again if needed.  Be aware that what most of the world would call an e-mail folder Gmail terms a "label."  Labels are implemented as IMAP folders and I have no idea what possessed Google to call them labels instead.  You can create all these labels/folders before you do your filters if you so wish (and it is easier if you know what you want as far as folders) by using the Labels tab/link.
--
Brian

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         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



IMAP mail rules in gmail using NVDA

Ketan Kothari
 

Hi friends,

I am planning to set up my gmail account as an IMAP with windows live
mail. I want my mails to organize in different folders. How can I
create rules online using NVDA? Please do help. Thank you.

Ketan

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Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Paul Benson
 

Hello Pranav and all,

Thoroughly annoying when the half-composed message is lost. Perhaps a plan B is available? Compose the reply message in Notepad or similar and only open up Outlook to copy the completed reply from clipboard into the required location. This also allows simple regular updates while composing.

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal - Email Address: pranav.lal@gmail.com
Sent On: 14/09/2016 02:09
Sent To: nvda@nvda.groups.io - Email Address: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Kenny,



Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost
unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to a
message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the
computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.



Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:



Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am planning
on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible Microsoft
outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.


Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Pranav Lal
 

Kenny,

 

Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it almost unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or replying to a message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to recover is to reboot the computer. I have raised tickets about this problem.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

 

Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am planning on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how accessible Microsoft outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.


Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Jenine Stanley
 

Just bought my copy and am looking forward to reading it. 

I’m also looking forward to the Excel book. I use Excel every day for work and want to be able to expand what I can do with it. I love the way NVDA works within Excel 2007 and we only use it as a giant database. 

Yes, Power Point would be awesome to tackle next along with Outlook. I especially need big help with the Outlook calendar. We live on that calendar at work and short of setting up an initial appointment, its layout stumps me.
Jenine Stanley



On Sep 13, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Fantastic, glad you got your order sorted Shaun,

Re Word, there's actually quite a lot of interesting features that to be honest I hadn't completely explored before I dove into writing the material myself.

Excel is the next module we're working on.  We haven't mapped out a specific plan for exactly what to tackle after that.  We've definitely talked about both PowerPoint and Outlook.  LibreOffice has come up a couple of times in this and other threads lately so we might need to evaluate where the most interest and need lies.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.




On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





.







-- 
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Fantastic, glad you got your order sorted Shaun,

Re Word, there's actually quite a lot of interesting features that to be honest I hadn't completely explored before I dove into writing the material myself.

Excel is the next module we're working on.  We haven't mapped out a specific plan for exactly what to tackle after that.  We've definitely talked about both PowerPoint and Outlook.  LibreOffice has come up a couple of times in this and other threads lately so we might need to evaluate where the most interest and need lies.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.




On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Well I have it now.
Looks like after all the hastles with orders that I only got 1 recipt and so that worked.
I havn't run word in ages but I like to buy to support and get a manual which I can use myself.
I did do wordprocessing and well that sort of thing.
I really wouldn't mind a guide for spreadsheets like excell, outlook, powerpoint, and maybe libre and open office.
I never completed my spreadsheeting course because the person I got to help was useless and basically couldn't find how to handle it with the keyboard they did it all for me with the mouse.
As a result I passed the theory but have no practical experience at all.

On 13/09/2016 10:56 p.m., Simone Dal Maso wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break
copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or
NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think
about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running
macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


.


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Arlene
 

Loll! I hope you can give that book to somebody who doesn't have it. Just
sell it for half the price you baught it for.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: September-13-16 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went and
re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link, which I
haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link, which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Cearbhall,

Glad you got it working!  Yes, the older way that operation worked did enable nifty things like in my example, although I think it also caused some confusion as well, so we'll see how this new way goes.

In the meantime, I better update the material - and I'll keep the old activity on hand just in case we ever go back :)

Oh, re where you end up after you copy text, if you are in an otherwise editable field, then the text is selected, as it would be if you had used the regular movement commands, so if you press say left arrow, you will end up at the start of the selection, and if you press right arrow, you will end up at the end of the selection.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

Thanks that does explain what is happening! Hard to keep up with  all the changes, isn’t it?

 

OK then, so, I need to press NVDA +F10 twice. This does copy the text. But it activates the caret. So, if I am right about this, will it be necessary to advise the user to press control+end to get back to the location for the pasting operation?

 

If so, that’s a pity as you were describing a very neat little operation in the older version.

 

I wish you every success with this tutorial and I would like to help in any way I can. Please let me know if anything else needs an independent review!!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Cearbhall,

 

Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.

 

Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Mallard
 

Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link, which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie


Re: RE dropbox with XP

Arlene
 

Yes it is. This is only xp talk.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: September-13-16 6:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] RE dropbox with XP

Hello NVDA group,

I did not catch all the previous discussion concerning dropbox, but am wondering are dropbox and the current version of NVDA compatible on
Win7 computers?

Also, is there a review or tutorial online that will teach one how to access and use dropbox?

I belong to an online writing group, and part of its practice is to use dropbox for written submissions. Thanks.

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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

Thanks that does explain what is happening! Hard to keep up with  all the changes, isn’t it?

 

OK then, so, I need to press NVDA +F10 twice. This does copy the text. But it activates the caret. So, if I am right about this, will it be necessary to advise the user to press control+end to get back to the location for the pasting operation?

 

If so, that’s a pity as you were describing a very neat little operation in the older version.

 

I wish you every success with this tutorial and I would like to help in any way I can. Please let me know if anything else needs an independent review!!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Cearbhall,

 

Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.

 

Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
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RE dropbox with XP

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA group,

I did not catch all the previous discussion concerning dropbox, but am
wondering are dropbox and the current version of NVDA compatible on
Win7 computers?

Also, is there a review or tutorial online that will teach one how to
access and use dropbox?

I belong to an online writing group, and part of its practice is to
use dropbox for written submissions. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener


Re: OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

Gene
 

It is not accessible and it never has been.  It's been around for a number of years.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

https://www.oeclassic.com/

   Here is an interesting solution for the people that do not want to
give up outlook express.
   I wonder how it works with nvda.
   Some text about it is belo.
   Pete
OE Classic - Replacement for Outlook Express

OE Classic is an email and Usenet reader designed to be a perfect
replacement for Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and
even Mozilla Thunderbird.

The ultimate goal of OE Classic is to be an easy to use, fast, small and
secure program with lots of power features and yet, easy to use for a
beginner.
Your data always belongs to you as it is stored in a public-domain
format and there are no storage size limits.

Download OE Classic 2.51For Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows
Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000

How does OE Classic compare to Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows
Live Mail?

This table shows some of similarities and differences between OE
Classic, Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. The table
is based on user
comments and our technical research.

table with 5 columns and 14 rows
Feature
Outlook Express
Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail 2009-2012
OE Classic
User interface
Simple
Simple, but some features missing like identities
More features missing, ribbons, unintuitive, takes more time for the
former Outlook Express user to get used to
Easy to use, very similar to Outlook Express
Identities
Yes
No
No
Yes (Pro version)
Message rules
Very limiting
Very limiting
Very limiting
Comprehensive set of rules and actions, easy to use
Address book
Windows Address Book (WAB)
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts
Built-in
Message storage
Undocumented (closed source) proprietary database with access interface
(API) (DBX format)
Proprietary database with access interface (API) (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Proprietary database without access interface, your emails are locked in
proprietary database - this makes it difficult to export data
(EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Public domain database formats (your email data belongs to you), all
formats are documented in the help (SQLite/MBX format)
Supported OS
Windows XP (and older)
Windows Vista only
Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 (2009)

Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 (2011)

Windows 7, Windows 8 (2012)
All modern Windows (and future Windows), Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows
7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000
Up to date
No
(only for Windows XP)
No
(only for Windows Vista)
No
(latest version 2012)
Yes
(actively developed and improved)
Folder limits
Only 2 GB (corruption may occur beyond this, quite easily exceeded)
Unknown
Unknown
No (limited only by disk size)
Secure message storage
No (possible folder corruption, especially with Compact function)
Unknown
Unknown
Yes (crash proof message saving, can even handle power-off in the middle
of message save)
User support
No
No
No
Quick and dedicated support directly from developers (read full benefits
on order page)
Easily move messages/data to new machine
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
Yes
Can you request new features?
No
No
No
Yes (paid users)
Price
Free with Windows XP purchase (bundled)
Free with Windows Vista purchase (bundled)
Free
Free / $24.95
table end

Download on
download
  page or order on
order
  page.





Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I don't know what the last exchange was between Mike and me on the list.  I had assumed that all exchanges were on list.  Perhaps the exchange where Mike explained the procedure was taken off list and sent only to me.  I haven't checked.  At any rate, what I explained should work and is the procedure, that Mike uses.
 
Gene

From: Arno Schuh
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Am Dienstag, 13. September 2016 14:16 schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:

> I don't know how people didn't seem to read the exchange I had with
> Mike on this subject.  It appears that no one is using the method
> Mike uses, which works,

No it definately doesn't work here. If it works on your system - something
on your computer may be different to my or most of other XP machines. So if
it runs these way on your computer - that didn't mean it runs on any other
XP machine.

Arno

---

and as far as I can see, the version of Drop
> Box being used doesn't matter.  I have what, as far as I know, is the
> most recent version.
>
> If Drop Box is running, close it so you are starting from the same
> place as I did when I tried this.
> Then run Drop Box in the usual way, by pressing enter on the Drop Box
> icon on the desk top.
> Once it is ready, press enter on the icon again.
> Drop Box will open and read a message that says to log in, use
> control g.
> Execute the command control g.
> Your default browser will open on the Drop Box login page.
> Log in.
> You will be logged in in the Drop Box application and you will remain
> logged in using the application even if you close and reopen it.
>
> If you alt tab around, you may see a window at some point that is
> titled drop box error.  Ignore it.  You are not following a supported
> procedure, but the error window has no effect on what you are doing.
> All your files will be indexed again but once the indexing message
> disappears from the system tray information about Drop Box it will be
> ready to use.  It may take awhile for the indexing message to stop
> being displayed and.  You will see the usual up to date message after
> it disappears.  There will be a very brief time when you see some
> other message about changing a certain number of files or something
> like that but it doesn't matter.  It will be replaced with the up to
> date message.
>
> Gene





Re: Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Jacob Kruger
 

There's no real advantage, and, I came across it before had realised opera was just implementing chrome in a better interface than chrome itself offers...<smile>


Still plan to play around with it, since it might offer some additional interface customising, but, nothing major in terms of being specifically accessible, as far as I can tell thus far.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-09-13 2:24 PM, Gene wrote:

I haven't used it enough to have an opinion about adding it to the list in terms of accessibility.  It appears to be more or less accessible from the little I played with it.  I may or may not be curious enough to test it further.  But my question is, what advantage does the browser present?  In my brief testing, I saw none.  I read a review in PC Magazine and the benefits appear to be those sighted people would be interested in.  I saw nothing that would improve useability for blind users.  We don't care and don't benefit from the kinds of visual differences you can choose such as stacking tabs in a different way. 
 
So, at present, my view is that even if the browser is included in the list of accessible browsers, I see no advantage in using it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Hi Jacob


Just found your email and downloaded the browser to take it for a quick test drive. it seems pretty useable and also lets you use most quick navigation keys. I was able to go to different pages and go back to the main one etc


I have not had a look under the settings etc but it seem to speak out menus etc as wewll as the web content.


I wonder if others users have taken it for a test drive and what do they think of it as well, should it be added to the list of useable browsers it seems very likely. so far.


Gene nz


On 6/07/2016 8:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: NVDA and spell checker (Word 2013)

Babcock LDPVI
 

Thanks! I will try it out.



OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

Pete <emac00@...>
 

https://www.oeclassic.com/

Here is an interesting solution for the people that do not want to give up outlook express.
I wonder how it works with nvda.
Some text about it is belo.
Pete
OE Classic - Replacement for Outlook Express

OE Classic is an email and Usenet reader designed to be a perfect replacement for Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and even Mozilla Thunderbird.

The ultimate goal of OE Classic is to be an easy to use, fast, small and secure program with lots of power features and yet, easy to use for a beginner.
Your data always belongs to you as it is stored in a public-domain format and there are no storage size limits.

Download OE Classic 2.51For Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000

How does OE Classic compare to Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail?

This table shows some of similarities and differences between OE Classic, Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. The table is based on user
comments and our technical research.

table with 5 columns and 14 rows
Feature
Outlook Express
Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail 2009-2012
OE Classic
User interface
Simple
Simple, but some features missing like identities
More features missing, ribbons, unintuitive, takes more time for the former Outlook Express user to get used to
Easy to use, very similar to Outlook Express
Identities
Yes
No
No
Yes (Pro version)
Message rules
Very limiting
Very limiting
Very limiting
Comprehensive set of rules and actions, easy to use
Address book
Windows Address Book (WAB)
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts
Built-in
Message storage
Undocumented (closed source) proprietary database with access interface (API) (DBX format)
Proprietary database with access interface (API) (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Proprietary database without access interface, your emails are locked in proprietary database - this makes it difficult to export data (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Public domain database formats (your email data belongs to you), all formats are documented in the help (SQLite/MBX format)
Supported OS
Windows XP (and older)
Windows Vista only
Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 (2009)

Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 (2011)

Windows 7, Windows 8 (2012)
All modern Windows (and future Windows), Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000
Up to date
No
(only for Windows XP)
No
(only for Windows Vista)
No
(latest version 2012)
Yes
(actively developed and improved)
Folder limits
Only 2 GB (corruption may occur beyond this, quite easily exceeded)
Unknown
Unknown
No (limited only by disk size)
Secure message storage
No (possible folder corruption, especially with Compact function)
Unknown
Unknown
Yes (crash proof message saving, can even handle power-off in the middle of message save)
User support
No
No
No
Quick and dedicated support directly from developers (read full benefits on order page)
Easily move messages/data to new machine
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
Yes
Can you request new features?
No
No
No
Yes (paid users)
Price
Free with Windows XP purchase (bundled)
Free with Windows Vista purchase (bundled)
Free
Free / $24.95
table end

Download on
download
page or order on
order
page.